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DreamRider85 10-11-15 03:39 PM

I just got a Stem that rises at a higher angle. Is that right?
 
The reason is because I had some back discomfort the last month. Now originally this bike came with a risen stem. But it was a temporary white stem and then I had the LBS replace it with a black stem. It was a lower angle, because they were out of the higher angled one.

So I tested it out for a month. It was good at first. But then the back pain started to really creep up on me. Now I normally don't have too much pain when riding. But the pain became very obvious each time I rode. So is this from the bike being too low, or is it my fault for not having the core strength?

Just got the higher stem put back on my LBS. I rode a little today. Didn't have as much back pain, but I also feel like it's a little harder to get into a powerful position to get my maximum speed. I'm more upright, but might be a tad slower when I'm trying to go fast. And plus, I felt like I was getting used to the lower position. Not my back, but my coordination. Now it's slightly more awkward getting back onto the new height. So what should I do?

The other thing is they charged me over 60 for the stem (not including labor) because they had to order it. But it was originally supposed to be the one I was supposed to have, they had given me a temporary one. So I'm confused why they are charging me for something I was never supposed to pay for.

ramzilla 10-11-15 03:45 PM

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How old are you & how much musco-skeletal pain are you in? I highly recommend upright bars w/high rise stems for older riders with back pain. It's an expensive conversion but, well worth the benefits. You need new handlebars, stem, shifters, brake handles, & cables. Here's one I did recently. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=482055

Fastfingaz 10-11-15 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by DreamRider85 (Post 18234399)
The reason is because I had some back discomfort the last month. Now originally this bike came with a risen stem. But it was a temporary white stem and then I had the LBS replace it with a black stem. It was a lower angle, because they were out of the higher angled one.

So I tested it out for a month. It was good at first. But then the back pain started to really creep up on me. Now I normally don't have too much pain when riding. But the pain became very obvious each time I rode. So is this from the bike being too low, or is it my fault for not having the core strength?

Just got the higher stem put back on my LBS. I rode a little today. Didn't have as much back pain, but I also feel like it's a little harder to get into a powerful position to get my maximum speed. I'm more upright, but might be a tad slower when I'm trying to go fast. And plus, I felt like I was getting used to the lower position. Not my back, but my coordination. Now it's slightly more awkward getting back onto the new height. So what should I do?

The other thing is they charged me over 60 for the stem (not including labor) because they had to order it. But it was originally supposed to be the one I was supposed to have, they had given me a temporary one. So I'm confused why they are charging me for something I was never supposed to pay for.

What type of bike are you talking about???a road bike ? or,,,

DreamRider85 10-11-15 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Fastfingaz (Post 18234433)
What type of bike are you talking about???a road bike ? or,,,


Yes an ALR Roadbike

Cyril 10-11-15 08:22 PM

Here we go again

:popcorn

badger1 10-11-15 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cyril (Post 18234942)
Here we go again

:popcorn

Fun, innit? But wait, there's more! Within hours we also have "I found that by using lower handle bars, I ride better against wind". Doesn't get any better than that.

DreamRider85 10-11-15 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by badger1 (Post 18235002)
Fun, innit? But wait, there's more! Within hours we also have "I found that by using lower handle bars, I ride better against wind". Doesn't get any better than that.


But my threads are all true. What is wrong with my point of view?

catgita 10-11-15 09:47 PM

Back pain is debilitating. Going a little slower isn't.
The last time I bought a bike off the rack, they offered to have me take it home and they would swap the stem later. "That's ok, you hold on to it, I won't be riding it until it fits properly anyway."

Helps that it was, for them anyway, a higher end bike.

bikemig 10-11-15 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by badger1 (Post 18235002)
Fun, innit? But wait, there's more! Within hours we also have "I found that by using lower handle bars, I ride better against wind". Doesn't get any better than that.

I'm thinking of using it in my signature line.

NormanF 10-11-15 09:58 PM

If its still not high enough and its threadless, have the shop install a stem riser.

That will set your bars at maximum height.

Elvo 10-12-15 08:21 AM

Flip it

PepeM 10-12-15 09:00 AM

Higher bars will give you a better view of the road so you can avoid colliding with little girls.

rm -rf 10-12-15 09:12 AM

Gee, these snarky comments aren't even funny. Why post them?

DreamRider, what size are the two stems? I'm assuming they are "threadless" stems, with the two bolts to clamp onto the fork steerer. They will have an angle in degrees and a length, either cm or mm. For instance, 7 degree and 100mm (or 10cm).

Use a level to measure the drop from the top of your saddle to the top surface of the bars near the stem. How much drop do you have?

I get lower back pain if I'm pushing hard on a steep climb at a very low cadence. It's an over use of my back muscles. But that's probably not your same problem.

badger1 10-12-15 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by PepeM (Post 18235728)
Higher bars will give you a better view of the road so you can avoid colliding with little girls.

But there remains the problem of what to do when the bike lane ends while riding in the drops of the newly-raised bars -- having realized that the bicycle in question has drop bars -- to be more efficient while simultaneously avoiding collisions with little girls and being run over by fast-moving cars.

fietsbob 10-12-15 09:48 AM

Recumbent

Secret Squirrel 10-12-15 10:06 AM

Loaded question. . A brief survey will reveal that many cyclists have a box of stems from trying to answer this question. I think that a shop should offer an adjustable angle stem as a temporary fitting countermeasure.

ltxi 10-12-15 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel (Post 18235899)
Loaded question. . A brief survey will reveal that many cyclists have a box of stems from trying to answer this question. I think that a shop should offer an adjustable angle stem as a temporary fitting countermeasure.

I use adjustable stems as a temporary measure to get just the right fit. Problem's been...once I get just the right fit I don't want to mess with it and end up getting another adjustable "temporary" for the next time around.

usedbutnotup 10-13-15 09:50 AM

So they sold you a bike with the wrong stem? You tested a stem for a month, didn't like it and now they put one on of a different color? But are charging you for the stem you should have originally had with the bike? Huh?

ramzilla 10-13-15 11:09 AM

Just take the bike back to the shop & trade it for one that has upright bars. Done deal.

italktocats 10-13-15 11:29 AM

im just confused why youd pay money for things you dont want

Phil_gretz 10-13-15 12:58 PM

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^ How quickly we forget that the OP spent $1000 to maintain a Specialized Hardrock that continuously wore out or failed.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=482360

usedbutnotup 10-13-15 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by badger1 (Post 18235002)
Fun, innit? But wait, there's more! Within hours we also have "I found that by using lower handle bars, I ride better against wind". Doesn't get any better than that.

Well I couldn't help myself and read that thread. Gonna be a long winter around here. Wow...

shelbyfv 10-13-15 01:12 PM

It's at least a little unique. Usually trolls swagger around and pick fights. This one pretends to be too stupid to breathe w/o guidance. One post would have been enough, now it's annoying.

Phil_gretz 10-13-15 01:55 PM

It must be an act. His 50-year old mechanic father must be so *not proud* of him. :(

Phil_gretz 10-14-15 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by DreamRider85 (Post 18235022)
But my threads are all true. What is wrong with my point of view?

So...did you go to U-Haul and get that trailer hitch receptical installed on your Corolla?


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