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usedbutnotup 10-15-15 08:01 PM

As a fireman for 7 years as a much younger man, I can and will say this post is ridiculous. Most people who die in a fire die from smoke inhalation or superheated air. Autopsies prove that. At what point do you think your gear will catch fire? Are you not smart enough NOT to ride during a forest fire? Radiant heat will do you in. This post is right up there with with the guy who discovered he had "lower" handlebars.

rekmeyata 10-15-15 08:17 PM

this is why I got a titanium bike instead of magnesium bike, in case I get my bike to close to the fire.

f4rrest 10-15-15 09:46 PM

I was disappointed to find that this wasn't a DreamRider85(tm) post.

hoodat 10-15-15 10:03 PM

Well at least you guys got some fun out of it. :p

smarkinson 10-15-15 10:54 PM

Dreamrider85 hasn't posted for a few days now. I hope one of his many fears hasn't actually come true and put him in hospital.

CycleryNorth81 10-16-15 01:23 AM

The OP's two bikes are electric, so there is a chance for a fire. I would also suggest to the OP to stop smoking when riding.

Rowan 10-16-15 03:02 AM

I will just add a little real experience here. I work on a orchard property where we build (large) fire piles from prunings and other timber debris. Setting them and keeping them alight means getting up close and personal. The clothing I wear is polyester, and I have a few shirts and trousers that have burn holes in them, but never large areas that have melted to my skin, and nor burst into flame.

indyfabz 10-16-15 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 18244975)
Not over here in Australia.

I know toilet water spins in the other direction in the southern hemisphere. Does that mean that fire burns cold down there? ;)

indyfabz 10-16-15 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by dubes (Post 18244169)
(1) Change out of your riding kit if you're just lounging in camp.

(2) Don't get so drunk you stumble into the fire.

Unless you're wearing eVent fabrics, the synthetic stuff isn't just going to just instantly vaporize / melt in contact with a flame. Like most stuff, you'll have to work a little to burn it.

Learned No. 2 the hard way.

Machka 10-16-15 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 18245994)
I know toilet water spins in the other direction in the southern hemisphere. Does that mean that fire burns cold down there? ;)

:lol:

And actually ... toilet water doesn't spin at all here. :D

BlazingPedals 10-16-15 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Leebo (Post 18244394)
I worry about nearing some carbon racer when it asplodes.

Carbon burns and produces CO2 - a greenhouse gas! Don't wear carbon!

andr0id 10-16-15 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by usedbutnotup (Post 18245461)
As a fireman for 7 years as a much younger man, I can and will say this post is ridiculous. Most people who die in a fire die from smoke inhalation or superheated air. Autopsies prove that. At what point do you think your gear will catch fire? Are you not smart enough NOT to ride during a forest fire? Radiant heat will do you in. This post is right up there with with the guy who discovered he had "lower" handlebars.

You sound bitter. Not all posts can be about something useful such as which chain lube to use.

GravelMN 10-16-15 09:19 AM

As long as you don't wear white kit after Labor Day, you'll be fine.

Doctor Morbius 10-16-15 09:36 AM

I know when I'm out for a little run around the neighborhood, whilst on fire and wearing a pink tutu, I prefer all natural materials to synthetics.

https://morganrlewis.files.wordpress...venger-126.jpg

erig007 10-16-15 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by BlazingPedals (Post 18246103)
Carbon burns and produces CO2 - a greenhouse gas! Don't wear carbon!

Don't breath neither :)

I propose that everybody around the world stop breathing for 1 minute :lol:

SloButWide 10-16-15 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 18244149)
Always bring a fire extinguisher on rides.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...35a4a27882.jpg

And make sure your bike wears it's life preservers.

Homebrew01 10-16-15 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by hoodat (Post 18245695)
Well at least you guys got some fun out of it. :p

Fun ?? About time we had a serious topic to discuss. !!

rekmeyata 10-16-15 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 18246820)
Fun ?? About time we had a serious topic to discuss. !!

What's a serious topic?

Fastfingaz 10-16-15 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 18245994)
I know toilet water spins in the other direction in the southern hemisphere. Does that mean that fire burns cold down there? ;)

Hmmm I wonder if sheet rolls uphill???:rolleyes:

ltxi 10-16-15 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by smarkinson (Post 18245733)
Dreamrider85 hasn't posted for a few days now. I hope one of his many fears hasn't actually come true and put him in hospital.

Why dat?

BobbyG 10-17-15 10:08 AM

in high school back in the 1970s I worked in a steel treating plant with various types of ovens, gas, electric, molten cyanide, and plenty of hot metal ingots. I had seen plenty of plastic items melt that were left too close to the furnaces. and while I never had my polyester work clothes melt or burst into flame, there had been some scorch marks, and of course there were the horror stories meant to scare the noobs like me. 40 years later and I honestly do think about synthetic clothing with relation to flames and heat. I thoroughly enjoyed this thread in the spirit in which people responded. I found it educational also. but I just wanted to chime in and let the original poster know, that after we learned his concern had to do with heat and open flames of a campfire, I could completely relate to his concerns.

2manybikes 10-17-15 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 18243921)
It could be a problem going downhill, especially at speeds over 15,000 mph, where the friction of the air can cause the fabric to burn

Even if you can hit 15,000 mph, your average speed will only be about 14,567 mph.

I think that the clothing the "Flash" wears will not be as comfortable as dedicated bike clothing. Comfort is more important than catching fire, if you can keep it under 15,000.

Don't forget to get a Nomex saddle cover.

How do the Nomex belted tires ride compared to Kevlar belted tires?

Trueblood 10-17-15 10:56 AM

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Wish that guy would get off my wheel....

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hoodat 10-17-15 11:51 AM

steel belted
 
I don't know about Nomex vs Kevlar but I know steel belted are tough. As you know the smaller the tire the harder it is to mount. My cargo trike takes 16 inch and those steel belted tires were a bear to mount. Course at 84 my grip isn't what it used to be.

Homebrew01 10-17-15 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by hoodat (Post 18249410)
I don't know about Nomex vs Kevlar but I know steel belted are tough. As you know the smaller the tire the harder it is to mount. My cargo trike takes 16 inch and those steel belted tires were a bear to mount. Course at 84 my grip isn't what it used to be.

How did you make it to 84 without bursting into flames while cycling ??


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