Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

PSA: Mr. Tuffy "Ultra-Lite" Tire Liner Weight Scam

Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

PSA: Mr. Tuffy "Ultra-Lite" Tire Liner Weight Scam

Old 10-23-15, 12:44 AM
  #1  
thrillhaus
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
PSA: Mr. Tuffy "Ultra-Lite" Tire Liner Weight Scam

Hopefully this isn't the wrong subforum for this.

The Mr. Tuffy "Ultra-Lite" Tire Liners are advertised as half the weight of their regular liners. As it turns out, they weigh exactly the same. The grooves that run along the Ultra-Lites look to be there for appearances only. I guess Mr. Tuffy thought they could make the product look like it was lighter and nobody would notice that it wasn't without a scale.

Hopefully if you're in the market for tire liners, this will save you from wasting a couple extra bucks under false pretenses. It's a pretty small amount of money, but it's also a pretty scummy way of doing business.

Before anyone calls weight weenie: The extra weight isn't the slightest concern to me at all. I bought the set of the Ultra-Lites because they were only a few dollars more and figured I'd use them under training tires while the regular liners went onto my commuter. As with all things, it's the principle of the matter .

thrillhaus is offline  
Old 10-23-15, 12:52 AM
  #2  
SlvrDragon50
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts
Isn't that lawsuit worthy? Not that I'm saying you should... but still. I think companies should be punished for stuff like this.

Starkist tuna got sued for skimping on like 0.05oz of tuna in their cans.
SlvrDragon50 is offline  
Old 10-23-15, 12:57 AM
  #3  
hueyhoolihan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Above ground, Walnut Creek, Ca
Posts: 6,681

Bikes: 8 ss bikes, 1 5-speed touring bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 86 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
your comparisons may be misleading by not weighing the same models. i have used both over a number of years and it's readily apparent when even lifting them by hand they the ultra lights are indeed lighter.

the packaging facilitates switching the products without the knowledge of the buyer. this has been reported in the past on this forum.

Last edited by hueyhoolihan; 10-27-15 at 11:57 PM.
hueyhoolihan is offline  
Old 10-23-15, 08:44 AM
  #4  
SpeshulEd 
Senior Member
 
SpeshulEd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8,089
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 686 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
A. If you're a weight weenie, you're not putting tire liners in your tires to begin with.
B. From my own experience, tire liners don't seem to be of any use, so no matter which ones you buy, you're probably wasting your money.
__________________
Hey guys, lets go play bikes! Strava

SpeshulEd is offline  
Likes For SpeshulEd:
Old 10-27-15, 08:13 PM
  #5  
thrillhaus
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SpeshulEd View Post
A. If you're a weight weenie, you're not putting tire liners in your tires to begin with.
B. From my own experience, tire liners don't seem to be of any use, so no matter which ones you buy, you're probably wasting your money.
I've heard enough people say they've helped that I was willing to try them. I also currently use Gatorskins and wanted to experiment with using a supple tire with lightweight liners.

Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan View Post
your comparisons may be misleading by weighing the same models.
What do you mean by this? The Ultra-Lite version of the same model should be lighter no?
thrillhaus is offline  
Old 10-27-15, 08:29 PM
  #6  
erig007
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: 6367 km away from the center of the Earth
Posts: 1,666
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by SpeshulEd View Post
B. From my own experience, tire liners don't seem to be of any use, so no matter which ones you buy, you're probably wasting your money.
From my own experience, with tire liners i went from 1 flat a week to 0 flat in nearly 3 years. Though i also changed to marathon tour plus tires.
erig007 is offline  
Likes For erig007:
Old 10-28-15, 10:31 AM
  #7  
jfowler85
Senior Member
 
jfowler85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Zinj
Posts: 1,826

Bikes: '93 911 Turbo 3.6

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
HOLY **** don't care.
jfowler85 is offline  
Old 07-02-19, 02:45 PM
  #8  
michaelm101
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: SoCal
Posts: 266

Bikes: Cannondale Carbon Synapse Road, Cannondale T2000 Touring, Vintage Mongoose IBOC Pro MTB, Vintage Peugeot 12spd racer, Old rusty Schwinn Manta Ray I neglected as a child, Diamondback Haanjo EXP Carbon & Metro, Specialized Roubaix Pro

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 136 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Anybody weighed equal lengths?

Indeed, the videomaker weighed the rolls right out of the box and perhaps they were the exact same length-- I have not contacted the company about this.

I have used these liners for over a decade and can honestly say that my flat tire stats were significantly reduced. Much time has passed since this thread was started and I wounder if anyone has objectively measured equal lengths of the two models of liner...? Thx in advance!
michaelm101 is offline  
Old 07-02-19, 04:09 PM
  #9  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 26,681
Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11259 Post(s)
Liked 2,843 Times in 1,588 Posts
Originally Posted by michaelm101 View Post
Indeed, the videomaker weighed the rolls right out of the box and perhaps they were the exact same length-- I have not contacted the company about this.

I have used these liners for over a decade and can honestly say that my flat tire stats were significantly reduced. Much time has passed since this thread was started and I wounder if anyone has objectively measured equal lengths of the two models of liner...? Thx in advance!
This thread is nearly a half decade old.
indyfabz is online now  
Old 07-02-19, 04:22 PM
  #10  
delbiker1 
Mother Nature's Son
 
delbiker1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sussex County, Delaware
Posts: 1,457

Bikes: Early 90's Ochsner road, 2006 Schwinn SS DBX, 2014 Orbea Avant MD30, 2004 Airborne Zeppelin TI, 2003 Lemond Poprad, 1989? Fuji Ace, 2001 Lemond Tourmalet, 2014? Soma Smoothie

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 400 Post(s)
Liked 293 Times in 188 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
this thread is nearly a half decade old.

aaaarrrrgggghhhh!
delbiker1 is offline  
Old 07-02-19, 04:30 PM
  #11  
michaelm101
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: SoCal
Posts: 266

Bikes: Cannondale Carbon Synapse Road, Cannondale T2000 Touring, Vintage Mongoose IBOC Pro MTB, Vintage Peugeot 12spd racer, Old rusty Schwinn Manta Ray I neglected as a child, Diamondback Haanjo EXP Carbon & Metro, Specialized Roubaix Pro

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 136 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
This thread is nearly a half decade old.
Yes, it's an old thread, but I've searched and have not yet read a definitive answer.
I simply want the truth.

There are centuries-old questions that humans still ponder...
michaelm101 is offline  
Likes For michaelm101:
Old 07-02-19, 04:32 PM
  #12  
alcjphil
Senior Member
 
alcjphil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 3,722
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 903 Post(s)
Liked 257 Times in 164 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
This thread is nearly a half decade old.
Exactly why all threads should have an expiry date. Fine to quote something from an old thread, but resurrecting threads about products that may no longer exist is not useful
alcjphil is offline  
Likes For alcjphil:
Old 07-02-19, 04:40 PM
  #13  
michaelm101
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: SoCal
Posts: 266

Bikes: Cannondale Carbon Synapse Road, Cannondale T2000 Touring, Vintage Mongoose IBOC Pro MTB, Vintage Peugeot 12spd racer, Old rusty Schwinn Manta Ray I neglected as a child, Diamondback Haanjo EXP Carbon & Metro, Specialized Roubaix Pro

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 136 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by alcjphil View Post
Exactly why all threads should have an expiry date. Fine to quote something from an old thread, but resurrecting threads about products that may no longer exist is not useful
Agreed. But if this product did not exist anywhere, I for one, would most likely not be interested and would not have posted.

I contacted the manufacturer and look forward to a reply. I will post my findings in a new thread for anyone interested.
michaelm101 is offline  
Likes For michaelm101:
Old 07-04-19, 08:03 PM
  #14  
livedarklions
Cyclesomatic
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 7,219

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Motobecane Fantom CX; Giant OCR A1

Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3741 Post(s)
Liked 2,517 Times in 1,444 Posts
Originally Posted by michaelm101 View Post
Yes, it's an old thread, but I've searched and have not yet read a definitive answer.
I simply want the truth.

There are centuries-old questions that humans still ponder...
Check back in another 5 years.
livedarklions is offline  
Likes For livedarklions:
Old 07-05-19, 02:40 AM
  #15  
MikeyMK
Cycleway town
 
MikeyMK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes, England
Posts: 1,402

Bikes: 2.6kw GT LTS e-tandem, 250w Voodoo, 250w solar recumbent trike, 3-speed shopper, Merlin ol/skl mtb, 80cc Ellswick

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 568 Post(s)
Liked 165 Times in 116 Posts
Did they get sued? Did the weight change? Did the guy ever get a flat tyre? Will we ever know?
MikeyMK is offline  
Old 03-25-20, 06:37 PM
  #16  
midnattsol
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
they do weigh the same...

I was frustrated by the lack of data so this month I bought a Mr Tuffy Ultra Lite orange, Mr Tuffy orange, and RhinoDillos blue.
All three, on their packages, say they are for 700x20-25 and 27x1.

The weights per tire liner are:
61g each - Mr Tuffy Ultra Lite orange - with grooves
63g each - Mr Tuffy orange - no grooves
72g each - RhinoDillos blue - no grooves

So thrillhouse is correct:
> The Mr. Tuffy "Ultra-Lite" Tire Liners are advertised as half the weight of their regular liners.
> As it turns out, they weigh exactly the same.
> The grooves that run along the Ultra-Lites look to be there for appearances only.
midnattsol is offline  
Likes For midnattsol:
Old 03-29-20, 06:54 PM
  #17  
michaelm101
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: SoCal
Posts: 266

Bikes: Cannondale Carbon Synapse Road, Cannondale T2000 Touring, Vintage Mongoose IBOC Pro MTB, Vintage Peugeot 12spd racer, Old rusty Schwinn Manta Ray I neglected as a child, Diamondback Haanjo EXP Carbon & Metro, Specialized Roubaix Pro

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 136 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by midnattsol View Post
I was frustrated by the lack of data so this month I bought a Mr Tuffy Ultra Lite orange, Mr Tuffy orange, and RhinoDillos blue.
All three, on their packages, say they are for 700x20-25 and 27x1.

The weights per tire liner are:
61g each - Mr Tuffy Ultra Lite orange - with grooves
63g each - Mr Tuffy orange - no grooves
72g each - RhinoDillos blue - no grooves

So thrillhouse is correct:
> The Mr. Tuffy "Ultra-Lite" Tire Liners are advertised as half the weight of their regular liners.
> As it turns out, they weigh exactly the same.
> The grooves that run along the Ultra-Lites look to be there for appearances only.

Thanks for this information!
michaelm101 is offline  
Old 03-29-20, 07:43 PM
  #18  
SethAZ 
Senior Member
 
SethAZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,394

Bikes: 2018 Lynskey R260, 2005 Diamondback 29er, 2003 Trek 2300

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 561 Post(s)
Liked 322 Times in 177 Posts
Originally Posted by thrillhaus View Post
I've heard enough people say they've helped that I was willing to try them. I also currently use Gatorskins and wanted to experiment with using a supple tire with lightweight liners.
So you wanted to stop buying Gatorskins and instead turn a perfectly good tire into pseudo-Gatorskins? Ok.

Edit: arg, freaking necro thread.
SethAZ is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
espressogrinder
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
49
09-20-17 02:41 PM
Shuffleman
Road Cycling
8
08-24-16 03:36 PM
giantdefy
Road Cycling
20
10-21-15 03:32 PM
americanlt2
Commuting
36
07-08-11 02:01 PM
mtb_man_14
Mountain Biking
22
11-03-10 05:39 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.