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Near crash, I'm OK

Old 12-03-15, 11:20 PM
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Near crash, I'm OK

I had been taking a shortcut on the way home, coming up my side of the street on the sidewalk. This involved crossing one street. I nearly got run over tonight. The car was stopped at the stop sign as I went across his path, and he started out without seeing me. I swerved, and he missed me. Close call.

It's just a good reminder of why riding on the sidewalk can be a bad idea, because drivers really don't expect you to be there.
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Old 12-04-15, 12:19 AM
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I take a couple of sidewalks and those dirt paths that pass for sidewalks in Texas, en route to the nearest grocery stores. Depends on the traffic. And it skirts a couple of traffic lights on uphill slopes that make it hard to regain speed. But the sidewalks/dirt paths cross half a dozen or so commercial driveways so I'm extra careful to check my mirror.

There are a couple other tricky zones where I'll detour over to the sidewalks for 100-400 yards, mostly because traffic is extremely tricky in those zones, with no shoulders and cars darting around toward left and right turn lanes, and a dangerous merge with a highway. Usually by the time I'm in those traffic zones I'm out of breath from a long uphill slope. There are rarely any pedestrians, the sidewalk is wide with good clear eye lines. But I do watch very carefully for vehicle traffic, especially from my left rear. After I reach the crests on these uphills and the main thoroughfare widens again and traffic is sane after the highway merges, I'll return to the street.
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Old 12-04-15, 12:31 AM
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There were a couple of sections in my former commute that brought me to the sidewalks every time. I stayed very aware that I wasn't really visible.
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Old 12-04-15, 07:34 AM
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It's not that you're invisible, but rather drivers expect anything on the sidewalk to be doing WALKING speed. They're not scanning far enough to account for a bike coming at them.
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Old 12-04-15, 07:50 AM
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I don't understand all this sidewalk discussion on this forum. Do people really just blindly ride into a crosswalk at an intersection from a sidewalk without stopping or looking?

I don't live in the big city or have much experience with sidewalks, but when I am in town, when I see people walking, they come to the corner, stop, and look both ways before crossing. People on bikes don't do that? Every discussion is about how drivers don't see you. Don't you see the 2500 lb chunk of metal sitting there?
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Old 12-04-15, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mrodgers View Post
I don't understand all this sidewalk discussion on this forum. Do people really just blindly ride into a crosswalk at an intersection from a sidewalk without stopping or looking?
Unfortunately ... yep.



Originally Posted by mrodgers View Post
I don't live in the big city or have much experience with sidewalks, but when I am in town, when I see people walking, they come to the corner, stop, and look both ways before crossing. People on bikes don't do that? Every discussion is about how drivers don't see you. Don't you see the 2500 lb chunk of metal sitting there?
Unfortunately ... nope.


I've recently moved to a city, and I'm floored by the number of pedestrians, some holding the hands of their children, who decide it is a good idea to walk out into the street against the lights, and have to make mad dashes to avoid being hit. So it isn't just the cyclists who don't seem to realise that if they are on the sidewalk, they have to come to a complete stop and look both ways before crossing at every single intersection. And if the intersection is controlled with lights, they are supposed to wait for the little green walking person to indicate that it is now their turn to go.
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Old 12-04-15, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mrodgers View Post
I don't understand all this sidewalk discussion on this forum. Do people really just blindly ride into a crosswalk at an intersection from a sidewalk without stopping or looking?

I don't live in the big city or have much experience with sidewalks, but when I am in town, when I see people walking, they come to the corner, stop, and look both ways before crossing. People on bikes don't do that? Every discussion is about how drivers don't see you. Don't you see the 2500 lb chunk of metal sitting there?
Happens all the time here in Philly. In fact, there is a lot of bad and stupid behavior on the part of motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. I walked to work this morning. Here is what I noticed in 1.75 miles: Guy flagrantly runs a red light so he can rush into a gas station. Had I taken my lawful turn I would have been hit along with an elderly fellow. A few blocks later a man fails to stop at the stop bar as I am about to enter the crosswalk. He drifts through the intersection as if he never saw me, make a left turn, gets to the red light and then makes an illegal right turn on red. All the time he's talking on his phone. At that same intersection I am waiting for the light. As I start to cross the street the woman standing next to me with her face buried in her phone takes a cue from me and starts to cross, never looking to see if our light is green and the traffic is going to stop. When I reach the corner of my office building a cyclist blows through the stop sign and nearly strikes two people crossing lawfully in the crosswalk. He nearly wipes out trying to avoid them. In short, it was just an average walk to work.
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Old 12-04-15, 08:19 AM
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