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Old 01-22-16, 04:10 PM
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Kinetic rock and roll vs road machine

Looking at a bike trainer for both my wife and I. Trying to decide between the Kinetic rock and roll or the road machine. Main application would be exercise on the days when riding outside isn't practical.

Not thrilled about the weight and floorspace required for the rock and roll and am wondering if the benefits outweigh the drawbacks?

Would plan to use it 3X per week or so from mid december to maybe mid march.

How likely is it that frequent use of a fixed trainer like the rock and roll will cause issues with the bike frame? What about for carbon bikes?
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Old 01-22-16, 11:21 PM
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I had the R&R and it worked OK, but I found that the only real benefit was that you could get out of te saddle to simulate some climbing, which I never did. I eventually sold it and got the Road Machine and am much happier with that. The new Road Machine Smart is set up to measure power, heart rate, cadence, speed, distance, calorie burn - prett comprehensive.
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Old 01-23-16, 05:34 PM
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Ddeand out of curiosity what did you like better about the road machine in particular?
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Basically, since I wasn't trying to replicate a real ride and wasn't going to do any standing simulation, I decided to go with the more stable platform. From what I could see, the only advantage of the R&R was while standing.The fluid unit is the same, but the base unit on the RM was solid as opposed to moving. I just felt more secure on the RM. Whichever one you choose, make sure you have a rug underneath for protection as well as a bike "thong" to protect your frame from sweat. Also, get a fan to help keep you cool - you will heat up! Check out this video to see how the R&R is use:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQz_u0Vc8Os
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...make sure you have a rug underneath for protection as well as a bike "thong" to protect your frame from sweat. Also, get a fan to help keep you cool - you will heat up!
Good advise. An old hand towel draped over the top tube makes a pretty good "thong".

OP, with your usage level I think you'll be very satisfied with the Road Machine. I use one about 5 days per week 2-3 months per year (as little as possible), and I certainly don't feel like I need anything more. Get a workout video or two to help keep you focused. Winter is a great time to do some threshold workouts and keep yourself focused. Just casually pedaling on the trainer watching TV achieves so much less, but is good for active recovery days.
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Any benefit in terms of frame stress on the bike with the rigid connection on the road machine? My wife and I both have fairly expensive bikes.
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I had the R&R and it worked OK, but I found that the only real benefit was that you could get out of te saddle to simulate some climbing, which I never did. I eventually sold it and got the Road Machine and am much happier with that. The new Road Machine Smart is set up to measure power, heart rate, cadence, speed, distance, calorie burn - prett comprehensive.
I stand on my Road Machine all the time. And for extended periods of time. It looks like the Rock & Roll would be more stable, but given that I haven't had any issues with the RM, I wouldn't see that as a factor.
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I stand on my Road Machine all the time. And for extended periods of time. It looks like the Rock & Roll would be more stable, but given that I haven't had any issues with the RM, I wouldn't see that as a factor.
Yep - you can easily stand on the RM. I just don't hardly at all. The R&R is designed for much more standing training, since it moves side to side. I liked the stability of the RM better.
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