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Old 01-24-16, 09:27 AM
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45 degree ride today

I do not do well in cool weather. I have some tights and they are tight. I have a long sleeve jersey, can I wear a t-shirt under it?
Going to try to ride for an hour plus.
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Old 01-24-16, 09:37 AM
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Gloves and shoe covers are good too. Some newspaper beween layers is a good windbreaker.
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I live in NW Florida and it was 45deg and 20 mph wind lol! I rode and frozed my but off lol! Had mask on my under armour shirt on riding pants and jacket on! It was cold but not to bad! I'm going riding this afternoon but we're getting in the mid 50's today tho
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Old 01-24-16, 12:00 PM
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It is so funny to hear 45 being referred to as "cold". After a few weeks of temps in the low teens, 45 would be a warm welcome. Jersey, arm warmers, more than likely just shorts, maybe tights. Depends on the intensity of your ride. I definitely wouldn't be using shoe covers or layers of newspaper.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
It is so funny to hear 45 being referred to as "cold"....
I was thinking this, too. Growing up in the SF Bay Area, we thought 45 was cold. Where I live now, we may not see 45 again until April. Bill, you can wear whatever you want that keeps you warm. It's not a fashion show...well, often it IS a fashion show, but you can rise above it. I've ridden in Sorels, with platform pedals.
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Originally Posted by billmc40 View Post
I do not do well in cool weather. I have some tights and they are tight. I have a long sleeve jersey, can I wear a t-shirt under it? Going to try to ride for an hour plus.
Rather than a tee-shirt, I'd recommend a wicking base layer (I use silk long underwear, but I hear UnderArmor and others may also be suitable). A cotton tee-shirt will quickly become soaked with sweat and leave you feeling clammy.
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Old 01-24-16, 04:40 PM
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A t-shirt will not work. Get a base layer undershirt that is synthetic, like this.
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45F isn't particularly cold ... that's 7C which is still above freezing.

Wear shorts, tights, short-sleeved jersey or wicking T, long-sleeved jersey, windbreaker jacket, good wool socks ... and you might possibly want full-fingered gloves and a headband. But have a place to tuck the headband if you take it off because it is too hot.
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Old 01-24-16, 07:25 PM
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Winter cycling for me so far this year has meant 30 minus to mid 50's, mostly on winter bike Townie, about 10 +/- miles @ 12+ mph average, three to six wx dependent days/week. Sweat pants, short sleeve running shirt under light jacket, and unlined deerskin gloves for all/exclusively. Yesterday was sunny 55 degrees and I was overdressed. Today mostly sunny with a bit of wind 45 degrees and comfortable Down around 30 something and I'm still body comfortable but my fingers tend to get a bit cold.
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Old 01-24-16, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by billmc40 View Post
I do not do well in cool weather. I have some tights and they are tight. I have a long sleeve jersey, can I wear a t-shirt under it?
Going to try to ride for an hour plus.
Thanks
Bill
You have two problems:

1. Keeping the cold air out
2. Insulation

A thin (fits in a jersey pocket once it warms up) wind jacket will keep the cold air out. Depending on sun, humidity, and you a regular short sleeve cycling jersey may be enough or you may want a thermal jersey.

At 45 I'd wear a wind vest, thermal jersey, gloves, leg warmers, and shoe covers because my right foot doesn't take much to go numb since I broke that leg.

A few degrees warmer (like 48 this morning after sunrise without a cloud in the sky) I'd consider a short sleeve jersey, I'd pass on gloves, and skip the shoe covers if there wasn't any water on the ground.

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Old 01-24-16, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by billmc40 View Post
I do not do well in cool weather. I have some tights and they are tight. I have a long sleeve jersey, can I wear a t-shirt under it?
Going to try to ride for an hour plus.
Thanks
Bill

Bill, a t-shirt will make you colder. Absorbs/holds sweat against your skin. As it evaporates the cooling has a high heat-transfer coefficient with your skin. A cotton tee will make you feel colder at the first sign of sweat. As Stuart Brand (editor of "The Whole Earth Catalog", inverterate hiker, and former Army officer) writes: "Cotton is the worst think you can wear on the mountain". Same for biking, for the same reasons.

You can get very fancy. I have both a Bontrager merino blend hoodie underlayer. Alternately, I use a Gore polypro wicking layer. Both are right underneath a Gore-tex Windstopper jacket. That's pretty expensive kit (I got a deal, else I'd be wearing polypro running shirt seconds from Ross). You can find more reasonable stuff on-line and on-sale. If you have a running shirt, or another synthetic shirt, that would keep you warmer than a tee.
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Old 01-24-16, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz View Post
A cotton tee will make you feel colder at the first sign of sweat.
^^^^^This!!!!

FWIW, I did 60 miles yesterday with a 34℉ average temp. Granted I'm a little more conditioned to cold than the OP, but I wore a soft singlet, 2 compression tops, a regular short sleeve jersey, arm warmers, and a mid-weight cycling vest for the top. For the bottom I wore a set of heavier bibs, embro on my knees, knee warmers, leg warmers, 2 pairs of socks, toe covers, and coated lycra shoe covers. I wore a thin beanie on my head, and fingerless gloves + mid-weight running gloves on my hands.

I have heavier thermal jerseys, tights, neoprene shoe covers and lobster gloves etc., but sometimes I like the feel of layering up lighter gear when it isn't really cold. The temp. was a little cooler than I expected, but I was fine.

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Old 01-24-16, 08:56 PM
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Ditto, the wicking fabric for next to the skin. I've tried to get by with cotton t-shirts and long sleeved jerseys, but they do get clammy.

I liked merino wool jerseys but they're very expensive now. Polypropylene long underwear tops and bottoms are affordable and readily available at most local ski and winter sports shops. Silk is occasionally available surprisingly affordably at discount clothing stores, especially toward spring and early summer.

For windbreakers and rain-resistant jackets, Nashbar, REI and a couple other discounters have some very good sales right now. I didn't have a rain jacket and just bought a Shimano Storm Jacket from Nashbar for about 1/3 of the original price. Very comfortable on a breezy high 30s/low 40s ride this weekend.
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Cotton is rotten. That is what I stick to, and I don't wear cotton to ride.
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Old 01-24-16, 09:17 PM
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As others have said avoid cotton. It doesn't wick moisture so you will have a wet layer against your skin which will make you cold. Get good wind blocking outer layers or even baselayers (Gore Bike Wear makes some Windstopper stuff) and you will be better off. A good synthetic wicking base layer is handy to have in general. I like Flashdry from North Face or Capeline from Patagonia but you could also get away with using running wear as well.

However you always want to start off the ride a little bit cooler than you would like to be because you body will heat up as you ride so keep that in mind. You should be freezing but you don't want to be roasty toasty.

If you are feeling cheap and your feet get really really cold and don't sweat to badly you can use newspaper wrappers over your socks inside the shoe to block wind. I have done it and it leaves your feet and socks wet and nasty but it does block the wind and keep you warmer.
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Can you wear a wicking base layer with a second layer of cotton? With a windbreaker as an outer layer?
Last year if it was much below 50 I did not ride. So far this year with knee warmers, high socks, and more I have ridden at about 47. But I wore a base layer of a cotton T with a second layer of long sleeve wicking shirt with an outer wind breaker. I live in central Florida on the east coast and we do not get a lot of cold weather.
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Can you wear a wicking base layer with a second layer of cotton? Em
No cotton--period. It gets wet and stays wet which conductively draws heat energy from your body in cold weather, and creates friction in hot weather. Synthetics or wool only no matter if it's 20℉ or 100℉.

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I'm stuck in Iowa here... I mostly ride at least 20 miles anytime it's above freezing and roads are not iced over. I'm all about the Dry Fit type material. It works and keeps you warm with a couple of layers. Plus, having a good soft shell type jack is a lifesaver.

I think I could stand lower temps but most of my biking is on the open road with a road bike. So any chance of ice or slick spots, I usually decide to ride the trainer.

Ohhh... And shoe covers work great with wool socks if you don't have heavy boots.
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I do a lot of riding in that temperature range this time of year. For 45F, I would typically wear the following (bottom to top):

wool socks
shoes
toe warmers
bibs
polypro tights
thin polypro or merino baselayer
longsleeved jersey
full finger midweight gloves
windvest

Notice there's no cotton.
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Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz View Post
Bill, a t-shirt will make you colder. Absorbs/holds sweat against your skin. As it evaporates the cooling has a high heat-transfer coefficient with your skin. A cotton tee will make you feel colder at the first sign of sweat. As Stuart Brand (editor of "The Whole Earth Catalog", inverterate hiker, and former Army officer) writes: "Cotton is the worst think you can wear on the mountain". Same for biking, for the same reasons.
Absolutely right.

Cotton is the worst thing you can wear while you exercise (enough to sweat) in a cool or cold place. It's a wonderful, luxurious thing to put on after you take your sweaty clothes off when you finish though.
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I live in the cold too. It's in the 30's and 40's right now. I used to not ride in the cold because I didn't have all the proper gear. I couldn't buy it all because it was so expensive. I started wearing my winter coat, or a hoody depending on temp, on top of my jersey, some sweat pants over my bib shorts and some thick gloves. Might look like a Fred, but at least I am riding lol.
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I live in the cold too. It's in the 30's and 40's right now. I used to not ride in the cold because I didn't have all the proper gear. I couldn't buy it all because it was so expensive. I started wearing my winter coat, or a hoody depending on temp, on top of my jersey, some sweat pants over my bib shorts and some thick gloves. Might look like a Fred, but at least I am riding lol.
New custom program size samples, new team left overs, end-of-season sales, and used outerwear are all options to keep costs manageable while still wearing cycling clothes that fit well and provide appropriate wind-blocking/venting/insulating/jersey pocket stowing properties.

For example, I paid $20 for my new Voler 2013 United Healthcare thermal jersey and $40 for my new race-fit LG size sample wind jacket.
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Thanks for all of the help. I am try to find some hot gear
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I'm up in N Michigan on the 45th. I ride in the winter. Learning how to dress for that particular night ride is always a challenge. In this El Nino it has been up and down, crazy. Coldest ride this year was 14F. Props to you for getting out even if only for a short ride. It sure beats a boring trainer and much better workout by time you factor the heavier bike, clothing, low psi in knobbies and toss in a few hills.
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Dang I feel ya op. I did a ride in 40 which isn't to cold but the 30mph side wind and then head wind for the other half of the ride was not fun. I don't know how some people can ride in the single digits the coldest i will touch is high 20s without wind.
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