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Old 02-23-16, 06:21 PM
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Endurance Road Bike Question

Taking the plunge. Upgrading from a Trek 7.2 Hybrid to an endurance road bike. I have narrowed it down to a Synapse 105 carbon or Domane 4.3. Any info on either of these bikes would be appreciated. Any other bikes i should consider?
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I don't get into brand recommendations, but rather than focusing on the bikes, think about what YOU are looking for in performance benefits. It might be a more comfortable, relaxed or aero position, better road shock absorption, specific gearing needs, and so on.

If you know what you want out of it, the decision about which best fills that role will become obvious, or at least a toss up between two finalists.
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Welcome to the forum. It's a good one. Truthfully there's not a significant difference in bikes that occupy the same price point in the same category. You'll likely be equally happy with either of those or any similar bike in that price range from any other manufacturer. There may be a few minor things that swing the favor of one over the other. One may have a seat that you won't have to change out. You may want good puncture resistant tires that one has and others don't. You make like the color scheme one has over the other. Consider any of the bikes in that category at that price point from any of the shops in your area. If all else is equal, which shop gives you the best vibe. Do they offer free adjustment? Are they willing to work with you on fit?
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Old 02-23-16, 08:29 PM
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I had a Trek 7.2 and went to a Trek Domane 4.3. I love the bike. I have about 3,000 miles on it (purchased May31st last year ). Rides like a dream. Take the bikes you are considering (and some others as well) for a test ride. You'll know which you'll want after doing so. Good luck with your new bike, which ever you pick.
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Old 02-23-16, 08:39 PM
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Two good brands, same concept/purpose of bike, similar group set and price point.... this is all going to be subjective.
I like the idea above about getting the one with the saddle that your butt likes.
Or the one your LBS has in your favorite color.
Or the one from the LBS with the better service department, or better deal on fitting.
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Old 02-23-16, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by alathIN View Post
Two good brands, same concept/purpose of bike, similar group set and price point.... this is all going to be subjective.
I like the idea above about getting the one with the saddle that your butt likes.
Or the one your LBS has in your favorite color.
Or the one from the LBS with the better service department, or better deal on fitting.
LBS has been established. Each bike has a color scheme i like. My butt does not like either saddle. Arranged to take both bikes for test ride Thursday. I will ride 1 and the bike shop mechanic will ride the other so i can switch back and forth on the road. If all goes well i will be buying soon. Thanks for all posts.
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Originally Posted by Soberider View Post
Arranged to take both bikes for test ride Thursday. I will ride 1 and the bike shop mechanic will ride the other so i can switch back and forth on the road.
No matter which bike you buy, keep the LBS.
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Old 02-23-16, 09:24 PM
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You might also look at the Specialized Diverge. Similar endurance geometry to the Roubaix but able to accept larger tires in case you want to ride on both paved and gravel roads. It is available in carbon or aluminum frame.
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I found my old steel Lemond rode nicer than the Domane I rest rode and my current sportive designed Ti bike is even better. So, if you are open to other options you may find an older bike that rides better, has better components, and is cheaper. Just an idea....
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Originally Posted by Soberider View Post
LBS has been established. Each bike has a color scheme i like. My butt does not like either saddle. Arranged to take both bikes for test ride Thursday. I will ride 1 and the bike shop mechanic will ride the other so i can switch back and forth on the road. If all goes well i will be buying soon. Thanks for all posts.
Sounds like you are on the right track. Riding back to back like that is a good idea. You may feel more connected to one than the other. Let us know what you get...with pics!
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Old 02-24-16, 07:12 AM
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Sounds like you're 80% already decided on buying another bike.
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I ride a Giant Defy, and the Advanced 2 is similarly priced and speced to the Domane 4.3 and Synapse 105. The Domane gets a lot of rave reviews, and a shop that is willing to spend the time to go on a test ride with you is going to be hard to beat.
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I like my Synapse. Never met an OEM saddle I cared for.
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Originally Posted by ltxi View Post
I like my Synapse. Never met an OEM saddle I cared for.
How is the synapse on your back after long rides. i get back pain after an hour on a Supersix. does the synapse make a big difference
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I did some longer rides on a SuperSix last summer, and it is a very aggressive bike pretty much designed for racing (most set-ups anyway.) The Synapse is just the opposite, designed to be comfortable for longer, slower rides

The SuperSix was great for the first hour or so, and then the low-long position got my back, shoulders and neck increasingly for the next couple hours until I pretty much had to sit up and ride the tops. If pulling over had been an option I would have but it was a group ride.

I have never ridden a Synapse, but peruse this article for some relevant info: 2014 Cannondale Synapse Hi-Mod | Bicycling . seems to me you could expect less pain.

Lower back pain could be a weak core as well (it is with me) exacerbated by the extreme posture.

Bikes like the Giant Defy with a teller head tuber and shorter top tuber should help in any case.
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I went around and around on this and finally settled on the Cannondale 105 Carbon. Like others said here, I replaced the saddle right away. I also upgraded the wheels. I have put about 500 miles on her so far and very comfortable. Also holding up very well. The 105 group shifits smoothly and very reliable.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Lower back pain could be a weak core as well (it is with me) exacerbated by the extreme posture.

Bikes like the Giant Defy with a teller head tuber and shorter top tuber should help in any case.
Bike fit: stack and reach. There's an article on slowtwitch about this but scroll down this article and read what some say.

Stack & Reach Primer: Chapter One - Slowtwitch.com

Then there's the comparison charts (different manufacturers) but mostly for tri bike sizing, but still interesting

https://www.slowtwitch.com/stackreach.html

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I went around and around on this and finally settled on the Cannondale 105 Carbon. Like others said here, I replaced the saddle right away. I also upgraded the wheels. I have put about 500 miles on her so far and very comfortable. Also holding up very well. The 105 group shifits smoothly and very reliable.
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Mine set up the way i want it -- its a 2013 10 speed --- replaced the post with a Thomson zero offset post and a Turbo saddle , using Salsa Cyclocross bars that are a bit wider than stock - (mine came with white bar tape too --- bad idea when you actually ride it)
The biggest performance difference from stock is the 12-34 rear cassette -- its not in this picture, but i am running a Wolftooth goatlink to give me enough chain wrap and still retain a short cage derailleur---- wheels are not stock, but they are a PErformance house brand wheel and roughly comparable to the RS-10 Shimano's the bike came with, but a bit lighter --- using a Continental 25c Ultra Sport kevlar bead tire and it noticeably has more volume than the stock 25c Schwalbe Lugano the bike came with --- The stock wheelset is wearing the original wheel cluster and i can swap it in when/if i get a ride with little climbing that i could use a tighter set of ratios for


-- It might seem crazy to bring a bike home, then drop another couple hundred in customizing it, but such is life when you buy off the shelf -- and some changes dont manifest itself (post, bars, ) until you put a few rides on the stock stuff --- other changes like gearing ratios and that butt hatchet ProLogo saddle they come with rear their ugly heads on the first ride --- but for most people and most riding conditions - the stock 12-27 rear cluster is just fine with a 34-50 front set of rings.
People have scoffed at my setup and said -- "Wouldnt you be better off walking it up?" --- No, - as i save energy by being able to spin up hills at 5-6 mph and 80 rpm vs grinding it out in a 28





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Originally Posted by Soberider View Post
Arranged to take both bikes for test ride Thursday. I will ride 1 and the bike shop mechanic will ride the other so i can switch back and forth on the road.
That's crazy! Did you ask for that or did they offer? Sounds like a good shop either way.
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I told him i wasn't sure and he simply suggested it. Today didn't work so we are doing it over weekend.
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How is the synapse on your back after long rides. i get back pain after an hour on a Supersix. does the synapse make a big difference
Can't really say as to difference as I have no experience with the Supersix. No hint of back pain ever on my Synapse, and I do have some general lower back issues. Tho, I never ride continuously/without a break for more more than two hours. Stock saddle went into "the box" immediately, of course, in favor of a good one that works well for me.
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Originally Posted by ltxi View Post
Can't really say as to difference as I have no experience with the Supersix. No hint of back pain ever on my Synapse, and I do have some general lower back issues. Tho, I never ride continuously/without a break for more more than two hours. Stock saddle went into "the box" immediately, of course, in favor of a good one that works well for me.
Any saddle you have in mind? On my road bikes I at first went with WTB Speed Saddles. They are soft with lots of padding. I soon found out long rides are painful with soft saddles and now only use Specialized Toupe Saddles. No more than Level 2 Padding with Specialized Saddles for me.
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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post

.....It might seem crazy to bring a bike home, then drop another couple hundred in customizing it........
I don't see that as crazy. I see it as normal for a bike person. Saddle and pedals plus any rudimentary cycle computer alone gonna cost at least close to that much.
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