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Alloy Canti 26" Rigid Fork Dearth?

Old 04-20-16, 07:11 PM
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Alloy Canti 26" Rigid Fork Dearth?

The fork I want is this: Kinesis industry CO.,.

Unfortunately, it appears that Kinesis has scaled down their availability to retailers, because it seems that at this time, there are no Kinesis distributors in the U.S. I've contacted a few bike shops in other countries that reportedly deal with Kinesis. We'll see.
The problem seems a sign-of-the-times, though: It's becoming increasingly-harder to get 1.) 26" forks, 2.) 26" wheels, 3.) forks with an un-tapered (straight) steerer, 4.) forks with cantilever (linear pull) bosses and 5.) aluminum forks.

(I ride my mtb on the road, so I don't need the strength of steel, nor do I need the stopping power of discs). Carbon would not have canti bosses.

These ML07A's are tig-welded and not bonded. I like that. The crown race is 7075 alloy. Bonus.
Is there anything similar available anywhere?
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Old 04-21-16, 05:43 AM
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I was wrong: Aprebic Evotech MTB Carbon Starrgabel 838gr. V-Brake 26" - Heli-Bikes
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre View Post
(I ride my mtb on the road, so I don't need the strength of steel, nor do I need the stopping power of discs).
Choosing steel forks over aluminum isn't generally a matter of strength or weight. Both materials can be used to make a strong, reasonably light fork. Aluminum forks have a reputation for being stiffer and harsher, though.

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Carbon would not have canti bosses.
As you've already discovered, that's not necessarily the case. I've got a cyclocross bike out in the garage with a carbon fork and cantilever brakes. And HERE is a 26" MTB carbon fork from Nashbar with cantilever bosses.
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its the lower cost import you seek? since US builders can fabricate a fork ..

Generally to be reliable aluminum structures need be more rigid than steel, it's the metal characteristics.
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And HERE is a 26" MTB carbon fork from Nashbar with cantilever bosses.
Get this. Who in the right mind buys an aluminum fork these days?
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
its the lower cost import you seek? since US builders can fabricate a fork ..

Generally to be reliable aluminum structures need be more rigid than steel, it's the metal characteristics.
Do you know of a U.S. builder who will build an alloy fork for me?
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Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post
Get this. Who in the right mind buys an aluminum fork these days?
Are you just a follower, in-general? Or do you have something specific to say?
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre View Post
Are you just a follower, in-general? Or do you have something specific to say?
I have this to say: Aluminum forks are uncommon for a reason, they are harsh and unforgiving. This is why the majority of forks come in two flavors: CF or Steel.

The "Get This" comment meant: get the Nashbar 26" carbon fork that @SkyDog75 helpfully found for you.

There are plenty of other 26" canti forks on the market, 5 seconds of Googling brought these up:

Sunlite Fork 26 MTB Uni Hiten 250X100X28.6X30.0 | Bikewagon

Origin8 Fork 26 MTB Cromo 250Xtdlsx28.6X30.0 | Bikewagon

Sunlite 26" MTB Fork Threaded Length 120mm, 1-1/8" OD, Black

Or are you just here to insult people trying to help you?
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Do you know of a U.S. builder who will build an alloy fork for me?
UBI .. bikeschool.com/resources here is a Long list of places to look . Bike Industry Links

You can ask them if they Will since I dont Know whether they will Or Wont.

Personally, I would hire a fork made in steel , since it can Be resilient or stiff ,

depending on the fork blade choice and bend/offset style chosen.


I used to Own an All Aluminum Italian AlAn , 2 actually
the Cross fork with cantilever brakes was way too flexy when I put the brake on

The road bike fork with the Fork-crown Mounted brake was OK (until they start to hit metal fatigue limits)

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I'm sure your Wal Mart fork is very nice Sunlite Fork 26 MTB Uni Hiten 200X120X22.2X27.0 - Walmart.com, but is there a reason you are showing me steel forks?

Kinesis Maxlight (alloy) 740g http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinesis-Maxl...8AAOSwv0tVXaac

Surly Instigator (steel) 1420g http://www.jensonusa.com/!8oGiFW8KJB...e91a&rpi=28861

This weight difference, alone, is enough to compel me to consider a welded aluminum fork. I ride on very smooth streets, so I do not need a fork that "absorbs vibration".
My road bike has a Kinesis RF28 fork. It's been there for 14 years. Although I'll put a fresh one on at the end of the year, I have nothing but good things to say about this fork. I noticed the performance difference (nimbility) immediately, when I traded out my original cromo. I love the way it flexes at high-speed, too.
I have nothing against good steel, but I despise carbon fiber. It's mushy, and feels like it's catatonic, or something. I think it owes it's existence to marketing acumen and has nothing unique to offer.
Anyway, I found Heli-bikes, who offer a decent selection of alloy forks, and even offer them in custom colors for 20 euros more. The disc brake mount on alloy forks is butt-ugly, and i do not do black, so I found a fork that doesn't have that awful flange and is not black!
You called my sanity into question. Why should I not retalliate?

Bob, to answer your question, I am not in search of a discount. The Heli-bikes proprietary (probably Kinesis) welded alloy canti 26" fork with custom color, shipped, is $165.00. That's no problem. Hey, I wish it was less, but whatever.
I'm not sure what kind of riding you did on the Alan with the "cross" canti fork, but I can not imagine my fork flexing with the utility riding I do with my MTB...to the supermarket, maybe to the next town, etc. How fast were you riding when you put on the brakes?

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Originally Posted by 1989Pre View Post
I'm sure your Wal Mart fork is very nice Sunlite Fork 26 MTB Uni Hiten 200X120X22.2X27.0 - Walmart.com, but is there a reason you are showing me steel forks?
Just because Walmart lists something on their web site, it doesn't mean it's a "Walmart quality" item. They list all sorts of items on their web site that they don't normally carry in stores, some of it high-end stuff like this Shimano Dura Ace crankset for example.

As for why anyone might show you steel forks, that's probably because steel and carbon fiber forks are much more common than aluminum. Aluminum forks, like 'em or not, got a bad rap for being overly harsh without much benefit, which in part helps to explain why hardly anyone makes them nowadays. The scarcity of aluminum forks, compounded by the scarcity of higher-end (lightweight) forks for largely-discontinued 26" mountain bikes, is going to make it tough to find many options that meet your wants.

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Kinesis Maxlight (alloy) 740g
Surly Instigator (steel) 1420g

This weight difference, alone, is enough to compel me to consider a welded aluminum fork. I ride on very smooth streets, so I do not need a fork that "absorbs vibration".
The weight difference between those forks isn't strictly a function of steel versus aluminum. That Surly fork isn't meant to be lightweight and the Kinesis fork is. If you're looking for a lightweight fork, you'd be well-advised to avoid the Surly, but I wouldn't write off steel entirely because some steel forks are heavy.

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My road bike has a Kinesis RF28 fork. It's been there for 14 years. Although I'll put a fresh one on at the end of the year, I have nothing but good things to say about this fork. I noticed the performance difference (nimbility) immediately, when I traded out my original cromo. I love the way it flexes, too. I never felt any flex from steel, or not much anyway. I have nothing against good steel, but I despise carbon fiber. It's mushy, and feels like it's catatonic, or something. I think it owes it's existence to marketing acumen and has nothing unique to offer.
You're absolutely entitled to your own opinions and to pursue parts that'll make you happy, even if I might disagree with some of them. I think you may be over-generalizing based on materials, without giving proper credit to design and engineering that'll affect function at least as much as material. There are good and bad steel forks, light and heavy steel forks, stiff and compliant steel forks. Believe it or not, there are even a bunch of great carbon fiber forks.

I don't have a whole lot of options to suggest for 26" aluminum forks, but best of luck in finding something that you'll be happy with!
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Sky, I'd be willing to consider a light-weight steel fork, if it did not have the disc mount. The question I'd need to ask myself is: What road/weather/cargo conditions do I predict that would necessitate the extra flexibility, strength and weight of steel?
I don't know about anyone else, but losing 1.5 pounds and being more selective and gentle in my riding seems rather attractive. I understand that some carbon forks are in the 500g range, but I think I'd try carbon forks on my road bike before I tried them on my MTB commuter. I'm just not sold on carbon, yet.
The science seems pretty complicated, and increasingly so. It seems the more I learn about carbon, the less I know. I'd need to get some opinions, especially where a cantilever boss set is concerned.
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This weight difference, alone, is enough to compel me to consider a welded aluminum fork.
What you really want is a CF fork then, if you're worried about weight.
I have nothing against good steel, but I despise carbon fiber. It's mushy, and feels like it's catatonic, or something. I think it owes it's existence to marketing acumen and has nothing unique to offer.
Right.

I will say: You're in a "beggar's can't be choosers" position here. You're essentially on the market for something that is rarer than unicorn dung. So the best people on here will be able to do is suggest you consider the alternatives.

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