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Old 04-24-16, 10:56 AM
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Kryptonite series 4 vs New York

I have recently bought a Kona Mahuna 29er, and I am looking to upgrade from my Sold Secure Silver Abus U lock to something more secure for peace of mind. At the moment I am looking at the Kryptonite Series 4, and the more expensive New York. I was wondering if there is any point paying extra for the New York when the series 4 is rated Gold Secure and considerably cheaper.
Both seem to be resistant to hacksaw, bolt croppers etc, and once the power tools come out does it really matter how tough/expensive the lock is? If a thief wants it he/she will get it with enough effort I suppose.
Would like to hear other peoples views, experiences, reviews etc and maybe some similar priced (U LOCK) alternatives

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Old 04-24-16, 12:08 PM
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The New York has a 16mm shackle and the Series 4 has a 14mm one. That's about 30% more material so I'd assume it would take about 30% more time to cut.

Personally I'm satisfied with a 14mm shackle, I'm much more worried about getting my saddle and wheels stolen than having the lock cut and the whole bike stolen. I use skewers that require the allen wrench with the hole in it (very minor deterrent, there are more secure options for this) and a 1/4 inch steel cable locking the saddle to the frame.
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An angle grinder will make quick work of any u-lock. It's mostly a deterrent against lazy thieves or opportunists that take an unlocked or minimally secured bike. I have a NY faggedaboudit and it's so heavy I rarely take it and use it. Instead I lock my bike where I can always see it, and still use a lock that is sturdier than what other bikes next to it are using.
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Kryptonite is good .... So is Onguard Brute:

Brute LS #8000 ? OnGuard Bicycle and Motorcycle Locks
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Originally Posted by milkbaby View Post
An angle grinder will make quick work of any u-lock. It's mostly a deterrent against lazy thieves or opportunists that take an unlocked or minimally secured bike. I have a NY faggedaboudit and it's so heavy I rarely take it and use it. Instead I lock my bike where I can always see it, and still use a lock that is sturdier than what other bikes next to it are using.
a u-lock is a detterent. If a thief sees a gold rated u-lock he will rather look for another bike that has a cheaper lock as it will be quicker and less noise using a portable angle grinder

but if you have an expensive bike like a Pinarello Dogma or a De Rosa etc you will be an idiot leaving it locked up in a public place.... a thief will take a chance even if you have a super duper lock or chain
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I use the "NY faggedaboudit", not going to look it up and find out how to spell it, only for my commuter. It is heavy. I don't take my better bicycles out if I can't keep them with me for my entire trip. Only the commuter is risked when I have to lock it up.
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Originally Posted by Phloom View Post
I use the "NY faggedaboudit", not going to look it up and find out how to spell it, only for my commuter. It is heavy. I don't take my better bicycles out if I can't keep them with me for my entire trip. Only the commuter is risked when I have to lock it up.
I looked closely at those but the shackles are too short especially if you try and lock your bike to a street lamp post
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Sorry double post and the other one is better.

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I use Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit when I am locking for long periods of time. If I am just jumping into a store I use the Kryptonite mini and in between I use the Evolution. At the moment I have nine Kryptonite locks (I just gave two away) so I have lots of choice.

I did have to use an angle grinder to one lock where the key broke off. I had to rent the grinder from Home Depot purchase a grinding wheel, find a plug close to where the bike was locked, run a length of extension cords and then cut. It was downtown so not easy finding a plug and the sparks flew 10 feet when I cut, so I had to be careful when someone walked by. Wasn't my best night. It was a Kryptonite Evolution and it took time to cut through and you had to make two cuts to get the shackle off. A professional could have done it faster but my point is it takes a lot of work to get through a U lock, so maybe I am glad it wasn't a New York or a Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit!

I think you will be fine with either one.
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Originally Posted by blakcloud View Post
I use Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit when I am locking for long periods of time. If I am just jumping into a store I use the Kryptonite mini and in between I use the Evolution. At the moment I have nine Kryptonite locks (I just gave two away) so I have lots of choice.
How come you have so many locks?

You should do a mini-review of them, giving us your perspective on which ones make the most sense to get, now that you have the experience of using them for a while.
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Personally I use the: NY Feggataboutit for the back tire/frame, a ny messenger with the little u bracket for the front wheel/frame, and an armoured on gaurd cable just to secure my seat. Knowing my bicycle will never be stolen next to all the other bikes here in Ottawa is priceless.
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