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Old 04-25-16, 06:01 AM
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My son outgrows his bike every year...

Third year in a row I'm looking to replace his bike with the next size up.

The kid's only 6 but measures 4'4" and I'm thinking about a 20" -- I think it would be nice to get him on something with hand brakes as all of his bikes so far have had pedal brakes.
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When my son was that age, I bought him a Raleigh Rowdy. Paid about $250. Everything was pretty heavy and entry level, as you would expect from a bike retailing for less than $300. But it was perfect for a kid learning how to ride a geared bike and use hand brakes. Single chainring, hand brakes, 6 speed twist shifter, 20" wheels. The only thing I changed out on ours was the tires. The stock tires were more appropriate on a tractor. I had the guys at the bike shop mount some lightweight tires with a smooth tread instead so he could actually pedal the bike.

That bike lasted a couple of seasons and when he outgrew it, we jumped right over 24" wheels into an adult bike with 26" wheels.
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Yeah I saw a diamondback at the LBS last year for $25 that looked new still, so I picked that up for him and we gave his old one to a church (he takes really good care of his stuff like I do, so needless to say his current used bike still looks new...I mean obviously kids do drop stuff though, but still in perfect shape other than a few drops).

I might swing up the LBS today or check out Dicks.

I'm not sure he's ready to shift yet.

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I think my local Dicks has some Nishiki bikes, not sure what brand the kids bikes are though...but that's probably at least a step up from Walmart. Not that there are very many moving parts on a 1 speed bike anyway.
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Yeah I saw a diamondback at the LBS last year for $25 that looked new still, so I picked that up for him and we gave his old one to a church (he takes really good care of his stuff like I do, so needless to say his current used bike still looks new...I mean obviously kids do drop stuff though, but still in perfect shape other than a few drops).

I might swing up the LBS today or check out Dicks.

I'm not sure he's ready to shift yet.

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I think my local Dicks has some Nishiki bikes, not sure what brand the kids bikes are though...but that's probably at least a step up from Walmart. Not that there are very many moving parts on a 1 speed bike anyway.
I bought the Raleigh from a bike shop.
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I bought my daughter a Dahon folding bike with 20-inch tires,so that the bike could "grow" along with her. She has had it from when she was about your son's height to her present 5'5" stature.
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get him a bromton fold up .... I've seen a guy approx 6 foot 6 riding one, and I've seen a woman of about 5 foot 2 riding one
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Interesting.
@MRT2 - Yeah we're a small town here -- I usually see 1-2 youth bikes in the LBS and for some reason I remember the prices being pretty steep. But either way, that's always my first stop.
@Tony Marley - Will look into that. Thanks.
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Old 04-25-16, 06:54 AM
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@dim - Will look into it. I remember being young and wanting to hit jumps, so not sure which way he's going to want to go to be honest...I remember covering miles upon miles on a BMX when I was young. We used to ride 10+ miles TO the local BMX track, then ride all day, and then ride back home (uphill both ways, of course, in the snow, etc etc). To be a kid again...
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So I stopped up Dicks on my lunch break -- and they had a pretty decent looking Matt Hoffman Carrion 20". Thought it looked nice, is my son's favorite colors, so I figured why not.

Anyway, those four pegs -- do kids leave all four of them on? What are they for, to grind rails -- or are they for setting your bike down / crashing?

The saddle -- why do bmx kids slam their saddles? Should I be looking to slam his saddle down or adjust it properly lol. Seems like slammed would be hard on the front of the knees -- do kids only pedal standing now days and just sit to cruise down a hill?

I see lots of kids with NO brakes...I'm pretty familiar with the brakeless braking method (from what I remember it was developed back in the early to mid 1980's, or at least that's when I learned about it), but shoes are expensive brake pads ( I mean shoes are an important part, quite possibly the most important part of the human interaction with their surroundings on a daily basis, so we tend to buy our son high quality shoes for this very reason ). I thought we shifted to braking with our shoe on the back tire because we didn't have money when our brake pads ran out, but kids do that on purpose now days?

I'm actually a bit embarrassed at how much larger this 20" bike is compared to what he's been riding.
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+1 on Folding bikes .. But you cannot jump & do tricks with them, like BMX bikes tolerate.

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Old 04-25-16, 10:29 AM
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So I stopped up Dicks on my lunch break -- and they had a pretty decent looking Matt Hoffman Carrion 20". Thought it looked nice, is my son's favorite colors, so I figured why not.

Anyway, those four pegs -- do kids leave all four of them on? What are they for, to grind rails -- or are they for setting your bike down / crashing?

The saddle -- why do bmx kids slam their saddles? Should I be looking to slam his saddle down or adjust it properly lol. Seems like slammed would be hard on the front of the knees -- do kids only pedal standing now days and just sit to cruise down a hill?

I see lots of kids with NO brakes...I'm pretty familiar with the brakeless braking method (from what I remember it was developed back in the early to mid 1980's, or at least that's when I learned about it), but shoes are expensive brake pads ( I mean shoes are an important part, quite possibly the most important part of the human interaction with their surroundings on a daily basis, so we tend to buy our son high quality shoes for this very reason ). I thought we shifted to braking with our shoe on the back tire because we didn't have money when our brake pads ran out, but kids do that on purpose now days?

I'm actually a bit embarrassed at how much larger this 20" bike is compared to what he's been riding.
I suspect BMXers slam the saddle because when they do tricks, they mostly stand on the pedals or pegs. Having a saddle properly adjusted for seated riding is a hazard when doing BMX. Some extreme mountain bikers use dropper seatposts for the same reason.

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Right, gotcha. Well, he's still working on standing so I'll set this saddle height up properly, maybe a little lower for him...It's no wonder he had a tough time standing based on how small the bike he was on is.
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Yeah, I've been wondering when droppers will come to BMX street bikes
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@deapee six seems about right, five was when I got my "real" BMX. I had to use the curb to get on. My grandad put shorter cranks on it for me at first
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Yeah -- he's a smart kid ... reminds me a lot of myself, kind of overthinks everything. He could literally go out and not do well at something, think about it while falling asleep at night, and wake up and be better if that makes sense. I joke with people about "practicing in my sleep" but I really think I do.

Obligatory n+1 pic (do kids bikes count as a +1)? Not sure of the rules there. Either way, we're ready to spin some cranks. Took his reflectors off because they seemed like they could fall or fly off / hurt someone, and he's not going to be out even at dusk. I have some reflective tape I'm going to use on it that results in more reflective surface area than the stock reflectors do.

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Yeah, I've been wondering when droppers will come to BMX street bikes
It probably comes down to price. A dropper post cost twice what OP's bike cost.
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It probably comes down to price. A dropper post cost twice what OP's bike cost.
Yeah, wasn't really thinking about 6yo's bikes, but the bike that an older kid would ride a long way to get to the skate park or pump track. Also, dropper posts seem to be going through their early-adopter phase, if they are here to stay then they will get a lot cheaper
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Yeah, I've been wondering when droppers will come to BMX street bikes
then they would no longer be BMX bikes.. skate bowl stunt* and dirt cross mass starts
are Both seat is in the way, stand up on the pedals and Go, events .

Besides the dropper posts would Double the selling price of the Bikes ..

Kids pedal for a while then sit on the saddle at its Low height and then jump on the pedals for a few strokes then sit down again ,

The adapt .

* my Local shop stocks plastic Pegs and pedals that are required to not tear up the concrete skate Bowl

Bike Fridays travel bikes use BMX 406 rims But thats not a BMX bike any More ..

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Adjustable-height stems and extra-length (400mm) seatposts can go a long way toward helping adjust fitment.

Say that a frame is sized right (in ETT) for the person, with an adjustable 80mm length stem and the 400mm seatpost at a lower height. But the kid grows 3-4 inches and needs more ETT length (reach) and height. Just slap on a ~105-120mm adjustable stem and crank up the seatpost a bit. Might be a cheap way to allow the same frame to last a couple more years. Not a perfect solution, but it might help.
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this brings back memories. so thankful my kids are adult size now. it was a journey for sure equipping both my kids over the years. buying replacements matching their growth. buying new bikes wasn't an option for us, not when the local used market is so good. they both ride adult Trek FX series bikes now, just like Wifey. of course the other challenge was getting rid of the old bikes every, or every other year. but again, not bad cuz there're always parents doing same thing! what was annoying was dealing with the rear racks with every bike change. we do family rides and everyone is expected to carrying something, especially when we go to the beach. flip flops, towels, food, water, lock, phone, etc.

BTW, there is a forum thread called "recreation and family" that you might enjoy browsing
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A local chain "Mikes Bikes" offers a kids bike trade-in program. I can't recall all of the details, but I think as long as the bike was purchased through one of their stores, is less than 2 years old and originally sold for greater than $300(I think?) it qualifies for trade-in. There may be a whole bunch of fine print involved, but the hype sounds interesting. I know it would have made my life a lot easier about 15 years ago.

I'm not sure where you're at, but it might be something worth looking into in your local area.



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