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Old 05-20-16, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
Why is it a bad idea? What harm would it cause?

To some extent it may matter how busy the restaurant is, but I could easily see this being a nuisance to other patrons. Restaurants aren't designed for people to be lugging relatively large pieces of equipment around with them. They're designed for walking, sitting, and eating. Do you bring it in and lean against wall? Do you roll it up to the counter? Do you have it parked in front of the drink dispenser while you fill, fumble for lid and fumble for straws? If it's ok to lug a bike around where do you draw the line beyond that? Do you ever draw a line? Could I roll my moped in? If I was a kid mowing lawns and I got hungry could I wheel my mower in? How about my mower and weed whacker? Maybe you think gas is the line. What if push mower and rake?
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Maybe carrying a lock would be the best solution.
They probably deny bikes to comply with their insurance policy.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
Why is it a bad idea? What harm would it cause?
The idea of a greasy and dirt covered bike where people eat disgusts some. It violates fire codes in some places.
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Refused service at McDonalds, I refuse McDonald's patronage. Just a small favor I do for my body's well being.
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Originally Posted by gear64
To some extent it may matter how busy the restaurant is, but I could easily see this being a nuisance to other patrons. Restaurants aren't designed for people to be lugging relatively large pieces of equipment around with them. They're designed for walking, sitting, and eating. Do you bring it in and lean against wall? Do you roll it up to the counter? Do you have it parked in front of the drink dispenser while you fill, fumble for lid and fumble for straws? If it's ok to lug a bike around where do you draw the line beyond that? Do you ever draw a line? Could I roll my moped in? If I was a kid mowing lawns and I got hungry could I wheel my mower in? How about my mower and weed whacker? Maybe you think gas is the line. What if push mower and rake?
A bike doesn't take up any more space than some of the jogger trailers I have seen.
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Originally Posted by gear64
To some extent it may matter how busy the restaurant is, but I could easily see this being a nuisance to other patrons. Restaurants aren't designed for people to be lugging relatively large pieces of equipment around with them. They're designed for walking, sitting, and eating. Do you bring it in and lean against wall? Do you roll it up to the counter? Do you have it parked in front of the drink dispenser while you fill, fumble for lid and fumble for straws? If it's ok to lug a bike around where do you draw the line beyond that? Do you ever draw a line? ...
if I am riding far enough to get hungry, I usually bring my own food and drink. My most frequent visits to fast food restaurants are for pit stops.

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
…When I’m out for a long day’s ride, the only time I might abandon my bike is for a bathroom stop. By the time I need one, I’m usually out in the suburbs, where everyone travels by car, and would have to load my bike to flee. I always stop at a fast food restaurant and bring the bike inside, and quickly do my business (don’t even wash my hands ). Outdoor pit stops in relatively populous Metro Boston does carry some risk for arrest as a level 3 sex offender.

Furthermore, I figure I’m conspicuous as I clack-clack-clack in cycling attire across the floor, and a would-be thief would be conspicuous as not-the-owner of my bike.
In these circumstances, I leave my bike in the vestibule, free of the doorway. So if I kept it in full view during the entire visit that’s pretty safe for me. BTW, I once stopped at a Dunkin’ Donuts and offered to pay two dollars as a “paying customer,” but my money was refused.

BTW, Just yesterday I replied to this thread on the 50-Plus Forum, What is the silliest argument that we feed???”

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
This current one is way up there: "I was Refused Service at McDonalds" [drive-thru]…

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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
A bike doesn't take up any more space than some of the jogger trailers I have seen.
I'm not sure what you mean by jogger trailer, I assume baby carriage. In that case I also thought of wheelchair, but in those cases the object is providing a useful and potentially necessary benefit to the transported customer who requires that transport within restaurant. Although I've seen some grey areas in "baby" carriages, think coddling. If there's something I'm unaware of where joggers have trailers of things, those belong outside.
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Originally Posted by prathmann
You're the one who brought up the hypothetical drug addict who was likely to snap into a rage at any moment. I'm just pointing out that people (drug addicts or otherwise) are far more likely to get angry when told of some policy that prevents the server from giving them what they requested and that they are supposed to leave instead. Still certainly no excuse for violence, but it would increase rather than decrease the probability. Better for safety to just serve the customer as they are expecting you to do.

And on the few occasions when I've been refused ride-up service (I've usually gotten it without any problem) the window has been just as open as when they've handed me my food - the only difference has been that they recite some company policy claim and ask me to leave instead of accepting my money and giving me my order. Their safety was not improved nor was my safety improved since I was still standing in front of some idling motor vehicle. The only effect of the policy was that they made a bit less money and I had a little less food. No improvement of safety for either workers or for myself.
"Company policy" and "insurance liability" are magic words used to defuse customers when you tell them "no". "Health codes" is another one. They don't have to be true, nor even make any sense.
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I leave on vacation Friday, most of my work on my desk is finished up, I'm just sitting around biding my time and rather bored

Everything you said is spot on, though, and spoken more articulately than I could have stated it.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
A bike doesn't take up any more space than some of the jogger trailers I have seen.
Most McDonald's I see have two doors with one door at 90 degrees to the other one. This is at either entrance. Getting a bicycle past them would be a hassle. On top of that the stores inside are NOT big enough for a bicycle. Just imagine if four or more bicyclists went into the averaga McDonald's and took their bikes with them. It'd be chaos plain and simple.

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Lot's of pages and posts to read through, but I didn't read nothing but the opening comment...... and think that that's there policy, live with it. Also, I would never ride my bike on the oil laden drive up driveway and last, what cyclist eats at McDonalds (?).
I got to think this thread will get locked and is designed for drama. I know drama, I was married for 34 years, lol
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Originally Posted by NYMXer
Lot's of pages and posts to read through, but I didn't read nothing but the opening comment...... and think that that's there policy, live with it. Also, I would never ride my bike on the oil laden drive up driveway and last, what cyclist eats at McDonalds (?).
I got to think this thread will get locked and is designed for drama. I know drama, I was married for 34 years, lol
I do, although not often anymore (maybe once a month). Does that not make me a real cyclist?


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... and last, what cyclist eats at McDonalds (?).
Let me guess -millions and millions.
Impact of bicycling food snobs on McDonalds' bottom line - probably next to nothing.
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Originally Posted by Miele Man
Most McDonald's I see have two doors with one door at 90 degrees to the other one. This is at either entrance. Getting a bicycle past them would be a hassle. On top of that the stores inside are NOT big enough for a bicycle. Just imagine if four or more bicyclists went into the averaga McDonald's and took their bikes with them. It'd be chaos plain and simple.

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I doubt a bicycle takes up much if any more space than this. If it does take up more space, it's inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

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Drama queens butthurt over a common sense and near universal policy.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
I doubt a bicycle takes up much if any more space than this. If it does take up more space, it's inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah! And I bet blind people can bring their dogs inside and the crippled can bring their bulky wheelchairs inside but not whimpering drama queens who are unable to remember or know how to lock their bike outside or are just too special to do so.
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Weight weenies don't carry locks to save precious grams but they eat at McDonalds?
Hrmmmm...
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Hahaha. Did the same thing myself several years ago. I stood my ground was served. No man should be deprived of his icecream.
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To the OP, I wish you the best and don't give up. I had something similar happen to me. I was able to get my meds in the drive through for years at Walgreens. I changed my plan and had to change my drug store. So it was between CVS and Rite-aid. I went back and forth with CVS and got no where! Please see <a href="https://www.bikeforums.net/living-car-free/1032891-arguments-being-able-ride-through-drive-through-service.html">Arguments for being able to ride through drive-through service</a> if you like 13 pages of info and arguments on this. I then tried Rite-aid and two phone calls with upper management, it flew! Half a year later and all is sweet! There hours ain't that hot, but no drama going through the drive-through to get my meds. It's actually a shorter ride from the pad (.4mi) than Walgreens.

BTW, if you do have a habit of going through the drive-through for whatever, make sure you keep an eye out for the oily spot that junker cars leave at the point where they stop. We were getting donuts at a the lustrous <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/the-donut-hole-la-puente">Donut Hole</a>. There's a really bad spot in the drive-through there! I put my foot down while admiring the donuts and almost went down! You can actually see the crappy mess from the link above.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Yeah! And I bet blind people can bring their dogs inside and the crippled can bring their bulky wheelchairs inside but not whimpering drama queens who are unable to remember or know how to lock their bike outside or are just too special to do so.
I don't know about all the drama stuff, but when I hear illogical crap as a reason for McDonalds not allowing something, I question that bad logic. So when someone cites safety concerns as a reason for not allowing bicycles in the slow moving drive through, I question how being in the slow moving drive through is more hazardous than being in the faster moving parking lot. No response to that challenge. When I question the amount of space a bike takes up as being a logical reason for not allowing bikes inside, I get a response like yours, which from a logical standpoint helped me make my case.
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To the OP, I wish you the best and don't give up. I had something similar happen to me. I was able to get my meds in the drive through for years at Walgreens. I changed my plan and had to change my drug store. So it was between CVS and Rite-aid. I went back and forth with CVS and got no where! Please see <a href="https://www.bikeforums.net/living-car-free/1032891-arguments-being-able-ride-through-drive-through-service.html">Arguments for being able to ride through drive-through service</a> if you like 13 pages of info and arguments on this. I then tried Rite-aid and two phone calls with upper management, it flew! Half a year later and all is sweet! There hours ain't that hot, but no drama going through the drive-through to get my meds. It's actually a shorter ride from the pad (.4mi) than Walgreens.

BTW, if you do have a habit of going through the drive-through for whatever, make sure you keep an eye out for the oily spot that junker cars leave at the point where they stop. We were getting donuts at a the lustrous <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/the-donut-hole-la-puente">Donut Hole</a>. There's a really bad spot in the drive-through there! I put my foot down while admiring the donuts and almost went down! You can actually see the crappy mess from the link above.
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I don't know about all the drama stuff, but when I hear illogical crap as a reason for McDonalds not allowing something, I question that bad logic. So when someone cites safety concerns as a reason for not allowing bicycles in the slow moving drive through, I question how being in the slow moving drive through is more hazardous than being in the faster moving parking lot. No response to that challenge. When I question the amount of space a bike takes up as being a logical reason for not allowing bikes inside, I get a response like yours, which from a logical standpoint helped me make my case.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
I don't know about all the drama stuff, but when I hear illogical crap as a reason for McDonalds not allowing something, I question that bad logic. So when someone cites safety concerns as a reason for not allowing bicycles in the slow moving drive through, I question how being in the slow moving drive through is more hazardous than being in the faster moving parking lot. No response to that challenge. When I question the amount of space a bike takes up as being a logical reason for not allowing bikes inside, I get a response like yours, which from a logical standpoint helped me make my case.
You know what is illogical?
A restaurant or retail business turning down revenue for no reason. That is what is so ironic about all the butthurt people's complaints
McDonalds and every other drive thru business would love to be able to take cyclist and pedestrian drive thru money but they don't because of legal concerns.
Debate that all you want but please stop with the clueless drama because it makes no sense and you look extremely foolish when you start comparing baby strollers to anything
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My most frequent visits to fast food restaurants are for pit stops.


In these circumstances, I leave my bike in the vestibule, free of the doorway. So if I kept it in full view during the entire visit thatís pretty safe for me.
Seems like this may be a violation in itself!
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Originally Posted by bakes1
You know what is illogical?
A restaurant or retail business turning down revenue for no reason. That is what is so ironic about all the butthurt people's complaints
McDonalds and every other drive thru business would love to be able to take cyclist and pedestrian drive thru money but they don't because of legal concerns.
Debate that all you want but please stop with the clueless drama because it makes no sense and you look extremely foolish when you start comparing baby strollers to anything
I don't frequent McDonalds, but it seems every time I do, they have cars in the drive through line pull ahead of the pick up window and wait for someone to bring their food out. There's an oil spot there and it is right where people have to walk to enter that side of the building. That point for the poster before you. I mentioned the stroller because someone said a bicycle was too big to walk into a McDonalds. That's the only reason I mentioned the stroller. I reckoned the kind of stroller I pictured had a footprint about the overall size of a bike footprint. Explain in detail how it's foolish for me to compare the respective footprints. Not the necessity of a stroller, but the footprint.

I don't care one bit whether any place allows bicycles in the drive through. I certainly don't think bicyclists should feel persecuted, and I didn't get the sense that the OP did. I understand that it's fun to turn on the OP. It's been standard forum fare for a long time. So too is resorting to things like calling someone foolish or clueless when you can't form a substantive response.

Here's the bottom line. McDonalds does it because they can. Their corporate lawyers may tell them not to allow bicyclists in the drive through, but from a logical standpoint any reason they have is thin at best.
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I rode past a McD's during my ride earlier this morning, and the first thing to pop into my head wasn't "gee, an egg mcmuffin sounds good right about now." Nope, it was this silly thread.

There were no cars in either drive thru lane, so I wonder if they would have let me order while on my bike.


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