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Old 05-23-16, 07:51 AM
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Random question from someone who doesn't know what he wants

Hey All,

I've been biking for about 7 years recreationally. I've gone through a few bikes now, ranging from a Diamondback MTB, to a Cannondale six13, and all the way to a Giant TCR Sl advanced. I regrettably sold my TCR Advanced about a year ago out of impulse. Some guy offered me about $500 more than I originally purchased it for (Ebay purchase originally at a great discount) and it was during a time where I did not do much riding. So the only bike I have left now is a Scott Scale hardtail that I ride occasionally with a couple of buddies but it's not getting much use other than that.

I miss riding on the road. The TCR was a great bike and I wish I hadn't gotten rid of it. To make matters worse, I've been looking at bikes recently and have come across a few that are just itching to steal my dollars. However, I am conflicted about what bike I want. To add one more caveat, I am relocating and won't have a garage for about a year so buying multiple bikes is not an option. I am hoping to purchase one bike that will keep me happy for a long time.

I've looked at the Cervelo R2--love the ride and the way it looks. The groupo is not that great for the price with 105 but it's a great frame worth building up. Also, the bike snob in likes the badge on the side of the frame...

2015 Giant TCR Advanced Pro with Ultegra. Bike is on sale for $2200 at LBS. This is sad to say but the color way is ok (white with green and blue striping). I do like the ride and it's a lightweight bike. This is a better deal than the Cervelo but it doesn't tickle my innards as much as the Velo.

Kona Roadhouse -- very different bike. They are giving me another 10% off the bike and this is the only one left in the country in my size. Love the way it looks but the inner weight weenie is being a snob and riding a $2k bike at 22# is mentally getting to me, as dumb as that might be. However, the bike is smooth, the reynolds 853 frame is gorgeous and it has ability to take wider tires to do some hard packed riding and gravel. It's a very cool bike overall.

So there is the dilemma. I am leaning towards the roadhouse because of the potential of not having to be limited to road only but I am hesitant because I like to ride aggressive and as fast as possible for about 1-2 hours a couple of times a week for fitness reasons. I don't ride in groups, although I may want to, and I do the occasionally century (which I've done on my TCR a few times).

So there it is. Help me out, please! Is there any reason to this madness?
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Old 05-23-16, 08:03 AM
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It's way under equipped compared to the bikes you're looking at but this one is peaked my interest, especially with such a low price and not made in Asia.
https://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/rx9-s
That bike is appeals to the upgrader in me, imagine it was some 50mm CF wheels and hydraulic Ultegra. I'm a big Guy Martin fan and he did a show on Orange bikes and I've wanted one since. This or a vintage resto-mod is fighting for top spot on my list of what's next.
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Old 05-23-16, 08:11 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I just looked up dealers and the closest one is about 2 states over. Not sure how easy it would be for me to give one of these a whirl. Not opposed to Orange bikes at all. The Salsa Warbird Tiagra in Orange was on my list for a while too.
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Old 05-23-16, 08:18 AM
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The trick is knowing yourself.

I think that a whole lot of people have a tendency to choose a purchase based upon aesthetics, then look around for objective features to justify that decision. That's OK with me. You said that you are looking for one bike that can keep you happy for a long time. If, every time that you look at your bike you say to yourself "What was I thinking?" that would be bad. I'd pay the extra money for the Cervelo.
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Old 05-23-16, 08:26 AM
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I guess there is a big emotional attachment people have with bikes. I think I am trying to convince myself to find utility out of a bike and be content with owning it.
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The Kona Roadhouse would be my choice for one bike to do it all. A longer stem and some Conti 4000 in 28 mm and you would be very close to a good roadbike on the road.
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Old 05-23-16, 09:55 PM
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Well, I went to test ride the Cervelo and Giant one last time when the sales person suggested I try a Specialized Tarmac as well. I initially thought that he might try and upsell me since both of the bikes i was looking at were on sale and I knew the Tarmac was a higher end model that Specialized carried.

To my surprise the brought out the Tarmac Sport from 2015--on sale for $1,650. The color is Gallardo Orange. I love the color. What's even better was how amazing the ride was. I've ridden a high end Giant and I test rode bikes that were double the price of the Tarmac, but this bike fit me so perfect that I had a huge grin on my face. The 105 shifted perfect and it already comes standard with 25mm tires (something I wanted to swap out on the Cervelo). I bought the Tarmac and will upgrade the wheels to something a bit lighter. Other than that, what a great bike.
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Originally Posted by dizzydtrain View Post
Well, I went to test ride the Cervelo and Giant one last time when the sales person suggested I try a Specialized Tarmac as well. I initially thought that he might try and upsell me since both of the bikes i was looking at were on sale and I knew the Tarmac was a higher end model that Specialized carried.

To my surprise the brought out the Tarmac Sport from 2015--on sale for $1,650. The color is Gallardo Orange. I love the color. What's even better was how amazing the ride was. I've ridden a high end Giant and I test rode bikes that were double the price of the Tarmac, but this bike fit me so perfect that I had a huge grin on my face. The 105 shifted perfect and it already comes standard with 25mm tires (something I wanted to swap out on the Cervelo). I bought the Tarmac and will upgrade the wheels to something a bit lighter. Other than that, what a great bike.
We need pictures, lots of pictures.
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Old 05-24-16, 06:30 AM
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Your inner bike snob might just be a manifestation of deep insecurities. Do not let them rule your life. Make decisions based on your internal moral/ethical/life compass and don't ask for affirmation. Free advice, there... Lay out a budget and stick to it. Buy the most functional and comfortable bike that you can within that budget. Ride on.
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Old 05-24-16, 06:01 PM
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What's really unfortunate is that it's impossible to pic up how bold the color really is. Received 2 compliments on the color on the first ride tonight.
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Old 05-24-16, 06:14 PM
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Is there any reason to this madness?
Prolly not. Nine months after resuming cycling last year on a fairly heavy-ish comfy hybrid, I'm beginning to get the itch for something lighter for recreational rides on pavement. I'll keep the comfy hybrid for gravel, rough pavement and errands, or trips where I'll need to lock the bike up unattended for awhile. But after test riding a Trek 7.5 FX I can feel the advantages of a lighter bike.

Problem is, I have no idea what I want either.

Due to a longtime neck injury I can't handle bars lower than saddle height, so traditional drops are out. But I might be able to handle 'em with a higher stem. And I'm betting the varied hand positions of drop bars will be more comfortable over long rides than the single position of flat bars or even my comfy hybrid's slightly swept back bars.

Some days I think I want a classic steel 10 or 12 speed, even if it's not the lightest thing on the road.

Other days a mid-range aluminum frame road bike like the Specialized Allez I ogled last week seems just right.

And then I have these odd days where I like the sound of the lightest frame I can afford coupled with an SRAM Automatix, because... just because. Like maybe even a mini-velo with ultralight frame, SRAM Automatix, a front brake and nuttin' else. Because it sounds like pointless fun.

Who knows. \_(ツ)_/
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Old 05-25-16, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
Your inner bike snob might just be a manifestation of deep insecurities. Do not let them rule your life. Make decisions based on your internal moral/ethical/life compass and don't ask for affirmation. Free advice, there... Lay out a budget and stick to it. Buy the most functional and comfortable bike that you can within that budget. Ride on.
Wow. Or it might just be that the op draws the line at the likes of, for example, bikesdirect.com.
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Old 05-25-16, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzydtrain View Post
What's really unfortunate is that it's impossible to pic up how bold the color really is.
It is not impossible, it is just that good photography is learned skill. Anyway, nice looking bike ... enjoy it.
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I'll have to work on that. Once my pedals and wheels are installed, i'll have to find a nice spot with good lighting to practice my skills.
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you buy that bike that tickles your fancy. You will never "wonder" about it, "What if" about it. And if you decide that its not all its cracked up to be, go buy the other one. You can never have too many bikes in the stable.
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Originally Posted by dizzydtrain View Post
What's really unfortunate is that it's impossible to pic up how bold the color really is.
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It is not impossible, it is just that good photography is learned skill.
Not too tough really. Take a photo of the bike in sunlight (rather than backlit in shadow) and if you want to pop the warm color (you do) take the pics in the sunlight of early morning or just before sunset. Try to have a dark background (shade of a tree?)..the bike will glow.. Nice ride..
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Not too tough really. Take a photo of the bike in sunlight (rather than backlit in shadow) and if you want to pop the warm color (you do) take the pics in the sunlight of early morning or just before sunset. Try to have a dark background (shade of a tree?)..the bike will glow.. Nice ride..
Yup. Exactly this.

Stand with the sun behind you or over one shoulder a bit in the early morning or late afternoon and the photo will be gorgeous.
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What's really unfortunate is that it's impossible to pic up how bold the color really is. Received 2 compliments on the color on the first ride tonight.
Dang man...that's a nice looking bike. Swap those colors onto my Roubaix and I'm all set.
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Old 05-26-16, 07:39 AM
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Dang man...that's a nice looking bike. Swap those colors onto my Roubaix and I'm all set.
Thank you, appreciate it. Before this Tarmac, my go to colors were stealth and raw carbon. Never thought i'd get onto something that stands out but I can get used to this. Plus having extra visibility on the road is never a bad thing.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Yup. Exactly this.

Stand with the sun behind you or over one shoulder a bit in the early morning or late afternoon and the photo will be gorgeous.
Great suggestions--will try next week during one of my rides.
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Thank you, appreciate it. Before this Tarmac, my go to colors were stealth and raw carbon. Never thought i'd get onto something that stands out but I can get used to this. Plus having extra visibility on the road is never a bad thing.
Most shades of orange look pretty damn good on a bike.
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Updated pic that shows off the color better. Also upgraded to some 50mm Chinese carbon wheels.
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Originally Posted by dizzydtrain View Post
Updated pic that shows off the color better. Also upgraded to some 50mm Chinese carbon wheels.
That is a great looking bike, it must inspire you to want to ride it a lot.
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Looks Similar to mine.
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Looks Similar to mine.
Looks awesome. Like the detailing.
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