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Old 07-29-16, 07:43 AM
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All you never really wanted to know about my tailbone..

..and didn't ask..but here it is anyway

I just started back riding a bike yesterday. Took advice and only rode 1.4 miles. I wasn't sure what part of me might be sore, but I've never had a sore tailbone. I am "sitting" carefully in my recliner this a.m.

A little background. I am 63, and active in walking 18-24 miles a week (3 to 4 days a week, 6 miles a shot). I also do weight-training for strength, more than bulk. I'm also a dancer (freestyle) and I plug in my playlist on the phone and flit around the open room at my gym.

I wanted something different, and to go some new places so I bought a bike (cheap, at Walmart), Schwinn Roadmaster Mt. bike "just" to get used to riding again. I've never been a long-distance rider. Just kept the saddle that's on the bike because folks tell me the ones that looks so cushy, wide and attractive to the behind, aren't as good for a ride.

I eat very good, and have only a teenie bit of arthritis from a job I did in a warehouse.

So, I feel as if "other areas" of my anatomy should be more sore, but it is my tailbone. Anyone have some feedback for me? I'd include pics (to show you the area) but I really tend to love people
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The handlebars might be a bit high, making you sit too upright. Lowering the stem a bit might help. But mostly it's just getting accustomed to riding again.

Summer sweaty swampbutt can add to chafing. Try some powder on the delicate bits before you ride. If the skin breaks, try some zinc oxide ointment or similar stuff used for baby behinds.

My comfort hybrid's cushy, springy saddle has been surprisingly comfortable over the past year so I've kept it -- although it squeaks a lot on bumpy roads. And I gradually lowered the stem and bars until I found the right balance between the butt, legs and hands.

Took a few months to dial it in, as my conditioning was improving along the way. I rode one mile the first day. Took almost a month to ride more than five miles, stopping every 1/4 to 1/2 mile to catch my breath (asthma). Now, almost a year later, I can handle 20-40 mile rides three or four times a week.
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Dear Mr/Ms A. Normal,

Please sit further back on the saddle so that your "cheeks" are supported.

And no, please do not post a picture! LOL
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The handlebars might be a bit high, making you sit too upright. Lowering the stem a bit might help. But mostly it's just getting accustomed to riding again.

Summer sweaty swampbutt can add to chafing. Try some powder on the delicate bits before you ride. If the skin breaks, try some zinc oxide ointment or similar stuff used for baby behinds.

My comfort hybrid's cushy, springy saddle has been surprisingly comfortable over the past year so I've kept it -- although it squeaks a lot on bumpy roads. And I gradually lowered the stem and bars until I found the right balance between the butt, legs and hands.

Took a few months to dial it in, as my conditioning was improving along the way. I rode one mile the first day. Took almost a month to ride more than five miles, stopping every 1/4 to 1/2 mile to catch my breath (asthma). Now, almost a year later, I can handle 20-40 mile rides three or four times a week.
This makes good sense, and my bike guy that helped me raised the handlebars a bit without me asking, telling me I could sit up straighter if I wanted. He was just showing me, but I will lower them to start. Thank you so much, and I mean that with all my tailbone

Congrats on your persistence. I suffered with asthma growing up, so I know how hard it is. We can build up though, wtg!!
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Dear Mr/Ms A. Normal,

Please sit further back on the saddle so that your "cheeks" are supported.

And no, please do not post a picture! LOL
I can try this as well, thank you james, I don't think the saddle is a "bad" one, but I'll get a photo of that and post. Or maybe the "type" or name of it is in the spec. I'll check.

Getting some great recommends, thanks to you both!! denise PS Miss Denise that is,
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I kind of meant my post as being funny/sarcastic. However, your comfort does depend on how you are sitting on the saddle, so maybe there is something of use there.

Any way, good luck. I broke my tailbone in late January of this year and was not permitted by my doctor to ride until the end of April. Just try carrying around one of those "cushions" for about 4 months.
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Did you see my post about trying different saddles? Many bike shops have test saddles that customers can try out for 2-4 weeks till they find one they like.
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I'm going to ride today, but will adjust the handlebars, and be aware of how I am sitting (try further back). Still won't ride far, as I know if I get too sore, I won't be willing to go out again tomorrow.

Funny, but I did feel I was sitting straighter up than I wanted to. Was busy thinking more about getting used to the gears again. I have 18, and shifted wrong once causing a chain to come off. Got it back on with no trouble. I can return the bike if anything major goes wrong, I think it's 30 days, or 90?? Anyway, when I get used to the saddle again, and be fairly comfy on this, I can move up to a better bike, longer rides etc.
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Did you see my post about trying different saddles? Many bike shops have test saddles that customers can try out for 2-4 weeks till they find one they like.
I probably saw it Ron, I know I've done some reading about saddles. I want to give this one a bit more of a chance, as I think it's more my posture than the bike/saddle. But I could be wrong. There is at least one, real bike-shop here in CC plus, a Big 5, and of course Walmart. I could get another seat, but I don't know about just trying one. I do know there are return-policies though

Thanks and good to see you today I love the forum!! Denise

PS I'll call the bike-shop and ask about test-saddles as well, if it comes to that
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Or-------------------if you can sit comfortably in your recliner this morning, you are probably a great candidate for a recumbent bike or trike.

IMO a DF bike saddle that is comfortable has not been invented yet.
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Originally Posted by james_v View Post
I kind of meant my post as being funny/sarcastic. However, your comfort does depend on how you are sitting on the saddle, so maybe there is something of use there.

Any way, good luck. I broke my tailbone in late January of this year and was not permitted by my doctor to ride until the end of April. Just try carrying around one of those "cushions" for about 4 months.
You mean the donut-cushions?? Oh james, I really thought I could be cured by sitting back further Ok, well, more will be revealed I can try it, or do what @Ron h has recommended
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Most of the saddles that come on bikes are not that good, unless you get a high end bike. Even then its a crap shoot.
If you can do the test ride thing give it a shot. No need to suffer while trying to convince your backside that a saddle is comfortable. Me, I've tried/purchased at least 20 saddles over the last 15 + years. I didn't find any really comfortable ones until about 6-8 years ago.
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Or-------------------if you can sit comfortably in your recliner this morning, you are probably a great candidate for a recumbent bike or trike.

IMO a DF bike saddle that is comfortable has not been invented yet.
Believe me, I would love to have one!! Just a matter of saving up. I also want to go "car-free" another dream of mine If I sell my truck, I can afford a Recumbent Trike. You may be right, I may not be able to start over at 63, even being in good shape, a bike is a "horse of another color" hey denise
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Most of the saddles that come on bikes are not that good, unless you get a high end bike. Even then its a crap shoot.
If you can do the test ride thing give it a shot. No need to suffer while trying to convince your backside that a saddle is comfortable. Me, I've tried/purchased at least 20 saddles over the last 15 + years. I didn't find any really comfortable ones until about 6-8 years ago.
I hear you Ron, so what did you find? Oh yeah, all butts are not made equal, nevermind
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I don't know about near you, but all the Big 5 stores here are closing. I just scored a nice set of lights for $10 yesterday. Shame all of the ski gear was gone or too cheesy.
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I don't know about near you, but all the Big 5 stores here are closing. I just scored a nice set of lights for $10 yesterday. Shame all of the ski gear was gone or too cheesy.
It wouldn't surprise me if ours goes out of business. Found out many of the bikes they were selling are at Walmart 20/30 or more dollars cheaper. It's a shame. I love Big 5, but I am heartbroken every time I see an empty building, or someone going out of biz
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Hmm, can't adjust the seat except for height on the saddle. My behind hurts, and realize I have to be "very" careful sitting down. It's not broke, just very hurty from 1.4 mile ride, geesh I know, I bought cheap, but that's what I can afford right now. So it's either go back to walking until I save up for a good bike, or maybe try for another seat. One that I can adjust the front a bit.

To be honest, I'm concerned about riding today because I can't make this issue worse. Maybe I can still try a second-hand, more expensive bike (made better), if I can just find one to look at

This bike is just a Granite Peak Roadmaster so it's bottom of the barrel. Wish me luck denise
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A friend still working the eating/control disorder anorexia in her 60's had no Butt muscles
so saddles with 2 gel pads were the minimum.

Gel padded saddle + a Gel padded saddle cover ..
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A friend still working the eating/control disorder anorexia in her 60's had no Butt muscles
so saddles with 2 gel pads were the minimum.

Gel padded saddle + a Gel padded saddle cover ..
I think I still have butt muscles. I don't know, time will tell
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I busted my tailbone years ago. When the Selle Italia Turbo seat came out, I bought it thinking that it would be an improvement for this guy who had been sitting on pure racing seats for 15 years. But the upturned tail was a torture device, pushing on my busted tailbone and leaving me sore long after the ride ended.

You are 63 and active. It is quite possible that you broke your tailbone at some point in your life and didn't know it. (Oh, yes, it hurt at the time! But it took me over a year and a big time loss of conditioning and exercise before that minor lower back issue was bad enough to see a doctor.)

My riding fell off a lot in those years of seat torture. Then I had hernia surgery, knew I had to get back on the bike and that would start on the trainer - the toughest test for seats. Went shopping and found the Specialized Body Geometry Comp with its full length groove. No tailbone pain! That seat is no longer my favorite, but all my seats have a groove or depression at the back. Cool thing is that a lot of seats now have that so we have choices. The Terry Fly is now my number one.

Go looking for a seat that will suit you better. This is more important than the rest of the bike. Get this right and you butt will thank you. Then go out and buy that better bike, take this seat that you know works, put it on the new bike and ride in style and comfort! (Buying a bike based on the seat offered is doing it backwards. You buy the bike that does what you want and put on it the seat that works. An $800 bike may do every thing you ever want and more except that to be comfortable, you need a $110 seat. If you select your bike to get that $110 seat, you may have to shell out $2500. Yes, a much nicer bike, but not a money saver!

There's a long history of favorite seats going from bike to bike. (I picked $110 for my example above. The Specialized seat that turned my (cycling) world around 17 years ago was last year's cheapy, on sale for $39.99. Did yeoman's work on my commuter in all weather until the cover died 10 years and many thousands of miles later.

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I busted my tailbone years ago. When the Selle Italia Turbo seat came out, I bought it thinking that it would be an improvement for this guy who had been sitting on pure racing seats for 15 years. But the upturned tail was a torture device, pushing on my busted tailbone and leaving me sore long after the ride ended.

You are 63 and active. It is quite possible that you broke your tailbone at some point in your life and didn't know it. (Oh, yes, it hurt at the time! But it took me over a year and a big time loss of conditioning and exercise before that minor lower back issue was bad enough to see a doctor.)

My riding fell off a lot in those years of seat torture. Then I had hernia surgery, knew I had to get back on the bike and that would start on the trainer - the toughest test for seats. Went shopping and found the Specialized Body Geometry Comp with its full length groove. No tailbone pain! That seat is no longer my favorite, but all my seats have a groove or depression at the back. Cool thing is that a lot of seats now have that so we have choices. The Terry Fly is now my number one.

Go looking for a seat that will suit you better. This is more important than the rest of the bike. Get this right and you butt will thank you. Then go out and buy that better bike, take this seat that you know works, put it on the new bike and ride in style and comfort! (Buying a bike based on the seat offered is doing it backwards. You buy the bike that does what you want and put on it the seat that works. An $800 bike may do every thing you ever want and more except that to be comfortable, you need a $110 seat. If you select your bike to get that $110 seat, you may have to shell out $2500. Yes, a much nicer bike, but not a money saver!

There's a long history of favorite seats going from bike to bike. (I picked $110 for my example above. The Specialized seat that turned my (cycling) world around 17 years ago was last year's cheapy, on sale for $39.99. Did yeoman's work on my commuter in all weather until the cover died 10 years and many thousands of miles later.

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Ok, I'm going to look into just changing seats. I can't afford 400 dollars for a new bike, and then find out the seat still is wrong. Your post makes good sense. I know I don't want one of those wide things because the chaffing of my inner thighs is something I want to avoid. But a seat that adjusts forward or back, yes, and of course, it will have to be compatible with the bike I have.

Thank you Ben, I'll keep it posted what I find
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Don't spend any more on this bike, you will be throwing good money after bad.

Save up and buy something that FITS. Walmart bikes are one size fits nobody.
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The saddle that's on that bike is adjustable for fore/aft position and for the angle of the nose. You have to loosen the nuts (maybe just one side) that hold it to the seat post, and then you can wiggle it around to where you want it. It's important to get the saddle height correct, so you're not hurting your knees, but the fore/aft position and angle are critical adjustments, as well. Look on Youtube for videos that will show you how to adjust your saddle and bar height, so that this bike fits you the best that it can. If the frame is the wrong size, you may only be able to get the bike to fit "close" to what you require, so keep that in mind. If you go shopping for saddles, start at the local bike shop. They can give you a pretty good idea how you're supposed to fit on the saddle (where you sit bones need to land, and how the nose angle affects your hands and back). You may be "throwing good money after bad", but the saddle you buy will likely fit on any bike you're likely to buy, so it's not wasted money, and the knowledge and confidence you'll gain are pretty valuable, as well.
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Don't spend any more on this bike, you will be throwing good money after bad.

Save up and buy something that FITS. Walmart bikes are one size fits nobody.
I talked to a local guy that everyone around me knows, and he has a bunch of bikes he wants me to come look at. He got one cleaning out a home that sold, and he says it's a higher end bike, so maybe I'll score one from him. He said I was welcome to try it out. So maybe the "used" bikes will be best for me to shoot for.

I know Walmart isn't about serious shopping for anything worthwhile. But I want to ride, so if I can't find anything else I can afford now, I'll keep this one for just getting to bike at all.
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The saddle that's on that bike is adjustable for fore/aft position and for the angle of the nose. You have to loosen the nuts (maybe just one side) that hold it to the seat post, and then you can wiggle it around to where you want it. It's important to get the saddle height correct, so you're not hurting your knees, but the fore/aft position and angle are critical adjustments, as well. Look on Youtube for videos that will show you how to adjust your saddle and bar height, so that this bike fits you the best that it can. If the frame is the wrong size, you may only be able to get the bike to fit "close" to what you require, so keep that in mind. If you go shopping for saddles, start at the local bike shop. They can give you a pretty good idea how you're supposed to fit on the saddle (where you sit bones need to land, and how the nose angle affects your hands and back). You may be "throwing good money after bad", but the saddle you buy will likely fit on any bike you're likely to buy, so it's not wasted money, and the knowledge and confidence you'll gain are pretty valuable, as well.
Hi Kevin,

I guess my strength or something failed because that seat does adjust like you mention. I did go ahead an get a softer saddle though, and I will use that on this bike. I don't really think I'm wasting money if I find biking isn't going to be for me. Or, if I just learn about the "parts" and how things work on this bike, it will be worth the money

I mentioned in another post that I've met a guy (actually, 2 guys) today that have used bikes, higher-end some of them, so maybe I'll find one of those is good for me as well. I have a few weeks I can still return the Walmart bicycle. Tomorrow I am going over to see what Greg has at his place (nice older guy, been around here for years). I can take some photos too, show you guys/gals, get your opinions if I see one I like PS here's the saddle I got today, it's still slim enough, and just enough padding I think to help break me into riding again

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