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How many miles do you get from your road bike tyres) 25x700c?

Old 10-25-16, 01:06 AM
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How many miles do you get from your road bike tyres) 25x700c?

After my first flat on Sunday since getting the bike, I started to wonder how many miles I should expect to get from a tyre before it needs to be changed. I`ve got the original tyres on the bike as I approach the first year, and very close to 1500 miles. Apart from the odd tiny cut here and there, they still seem to be ok. The thing is, unlike car tyres they never had much tread on them from new. They are the Continental grand prix 4000S II.

So, what sort of mileage do you guys achieve from a tyre?


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I still have the original tires on my Fuji Absolute 1.4 that I bought back in April 2014. I believe the size is 700x28 if I remember correctly. Not sure right now what brand they are (I'd check but I'm at work), but I have probably put somewhere close to 2800 miles on them and they still seem to be doing okay. I did rotate them this past spring, so that may have helped prolong their life some. I am thinking of getting new tires next spring, but I'll wait until then to make a final decision.


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I got around 4,000 miles on a set of Durano before one punctured. Then I got a whole series of punctures so I reckoned it was time for a change. I'd guess the GP4000 would have similar durability.
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On 25mm tires? I have no idea. On 23's? Depends on the tire. Michelin Krylions will typically get me near 2000 miles.
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For Gatorskins, 700X25, I average ~5,000 miles for a pair. High was around 7,300, worst was just at 3,100. I have ridden a pair of 'Skins until patches of the tread came off during a ride. I try and keep an eye on the two wear indicators, and for the fabric beginning to show through as the outer layer thins out. The fronts wear much less, but I change out the pair each time, the good fronts are spares, or loaners/pay it forward tires for anyone needing one.

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I'm using 700x25 gatorskin hardshell. My wheels have about 1500 miles on them and for most of those miles I was around 225lbs. The front wheel is still looking too new to predict its end. On the other hand, I can probably get 500 more miles out of the rear wheel before the wear indicators are completely gone.
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I've been bumping up my mileage. In the past perhaps the tires went bad due to age+miles.

I got about 4,000 miles on a very bald set of Origin8 Elimin8er tires (700x25).

I got a few thousand miles, mostly rear, on a 700x23 Gator Hardshell before it lost a chunk of tread rubber, and I pulled it. I'm still hoping for more miles on the replacement.

Right now I'm running Tannus 700x23 hard rubber tires on my rain bike. Not optimal, but not too bad. A couple thousand miles, I think, so far. It appears to be compressing and flattening a bit on the rear. Front still looks good. That bike will likely see quite a few more miles this winter.
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My first GP 4000s II's were 23's. I had about 2400 miles when the rear suffered a large tread gash, swapped both f & r for GP 4k-s II's in 25 mm. I seen somewhere near 2200 mi. on the 25's before I suffered a rear sidewall gash and replaced it, left the front and have added another 1000 mi. on it.
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Although there is no tread, most new tires have wear indicators on them. They're too small dimples in the tread area, fairly close to the tire centerline. As the tire wears, they get shallower. When you can't see em any more the tire is worn out. A tire may fail before they wear out.
I run folding , Gatorskins, both 700x25 and 700x28. I get somewhere around 5,000 miles, less if I'm doing loaded touring and pulling my trailer.
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Gatorskins have ~4100 on them and just barely any of the wear indicator left so nearing the end (~210 lbs)
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Old 10-25-16, 06:49 PM
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It depends on the tire, I don't keep records on the miles I get from each brand, but I've had tires wear out in as little as 1800 miles to as much as 5800 miles but that was on Specialized Armadillo All Condition tires which is not a normal road tire found on most bikes and they were 28's. It seems lately the average has been right around 4200 miles on 23's with no a whole lot of variance between manufactures. By the way I weigh 175 clothed. I just started to go into 25 size so I don't have any estimates on those yet, but I still buy 23's, I buy whatever size I find the best sale price on.
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I am a bigger guy with decent power who does a lot of climbing so I'm probably harder on tires than most. With that said, I ride Michelin P4 Endurance and I get ~2800 miles out of them (rotating front to back). How do I know when a tire is done? When the fabric casing begins to show through.

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Old 10-26-16, 08:32 AM
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Continental tires, including GP4000S, have wear indicators. It's two small pits in the rubber about an inch apart. When the pits are worn away, the remaining tread is paper thin. They can look half worn quite soon, but it takes a long time to use up the remaining tread depth. It's okay for the rear tire to look "squared off", that's normal.

I get at least 3000 to 3500 miles on a GP4000S back tire. I usually end up taking it off somewhere near 3500 miles, before it's totally worn, to have a newer tire for a vacation ride. (I should put it back on when I get home!)

Throw out the worn out rear tire, then move the front to the rear, and put a new tire on the front. Otherwise, the front tire stays on for many years, accumulating cracks and cuts.

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The rear gets much more wear, because there's a lot more force on it from pedaling. Strong, fast riders tend to wear out the tire faster for that reason.

I can often still see a bit of the center line mold mark on the front tire when the back is completely worn down. The front is practically new.

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every 3 months or about 3000-4000 km

but i have to say, after 2k i feel like replacing them, but i get lazy; like riding more than replacing old tires
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I have been through a couple of pairs of GP 4000s. It would seem reasonable to expect about 4000 miles. I also use Vittoria Rubinos, which wear more quickly, around 2500-3000 miles.
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GP 4 season, 25 mm on my road bike. Ride on dirt roads often, my mass is around 98 kg. Get 3-4000 km, probably replace them before I need to - homage to the flat fairy helps keep tires round and full of air?
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4-5k miles on Michelin Krylion training/commuting tires, but I don't really count miles. I replace if they get squared off, cords showing, rash of flats, etc.

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Rotating tires as placing the rear to the front and front to the rear? No way when climbing is involved. With climbing comes the fast 40 mph downhill, no thanks on rotated tires!
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my latest 23 mm clincher tire choices provided the following mileages:

Vittoria Rubino Slicks...2100

Schwalbe ONE...2450

Michelin Pro 4 Comp...2600

Conti 4000S II...5800
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After my first flat on Sunday since getting the bike, I started to wonder how many miles I should expect to get from a tyre before it needs to be changed. I`ve got the original tyres on the bike as I approach the first year, and very close to 1500 miles. Apart from the odd tiny cut here and there, they still seem to be ok. The thing is, unlike car tyres they never had much tread on them from new. They are the Continental grand prix 4000S II.

So, what sort of mileage do you guys achieve from a tyre?
For GP4000s, probably around 2000, maybe a little more or a little depending on your riding style and condition of the roads you ride.

There are actually two little dots on the tire that are wear indicators, when those disappear, the tire is on it's last legs. In my experience, I get a lot more flats when the tires start to get near the end of their life, so it becomes fairly obvious that they need to be changed.
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It might be proper to call the wear indicators "pip" marks. That's what the dots on dice are called, and marks with a punch or cast on piston rings to indicate the top are called.
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I normally ride about 2000 miles a year on my daily rider.

I know I could get an additional 500-800 miles on the tires, Maybe 200-300 more on the chain, and maybe half a season on the handlebar tape.

But instead I pull the tires off and keep them for possible emergency use or a fixer-upper/project bike. And also replace the chain and tape in mid-winter so the bike will be season ready come spring.
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Kenda Kalente Slicks 700x23. 2000 miles.
Kenda Kalente Pro slicks 700x23 2500-3000 miles.
Continental Gator Skins 700x23 3000-3500 miles
Vittora Pro Slicks 700x23 2500-3000 miles
Vittora Pro Slicks 700x25 3000-3500 miles.

Just bought a set of Clement LGG 700x28 and have no clue how long they will last. But they roll good.
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Originally Posted by ClydeTim View Post
Rotating tires as placing the rear to the front and front to the rear? No way when climbing is involved. With climbing comes the fast 40 mph downhill, no thanks on rotated tires!
he's saying to take the tire off the front, put a new front tire on, and put the old front tire on the rear. not to put the worn rear tire on the front.
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