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Old 10-27-16, 07:33 AM
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Craigslist Buyers that text you saying email a reply only

is this suspicious?
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usually phishing for email addys, or the lead into a scam. If it is a "real person" they should be able to reply back to a text as well. My normal course with these is to hit delete.
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guess I shouldn't be including my cell when I post stuff for sale
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
guess I shouldn't be including my cell when I post stuff for sale

I normally don't, but it also severely reduces the amount of "traffic" I see....considering the amount of it that is spam doing it usually balances out. A prospective buyer that is really interested in getting a fairly priced item you have listed there won't mind email relay a time or two to hammer out some details.
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Originally Posted by punkncat
usually phishing for email addys, or the lead into a scam. If it is a "real person" they should be able to reply back to a text as well. My normal course with these is to hit delete.
I've dealt with many "real" people who don't deal with texts. Personally, I'd far prefer to conduct a transaction over email than text, it is far easier to ask and answer questions on a keyboard with a monitor than on a phone screen. I know older people who have a hard time with small font and on screen keyboards.

I wouldn't consider it any concern.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk

I wouldn't consider it any concern.
- well it's suspicious to me because they don't reply even if I email to the address they texted me
- another guy texted me that he was emailing me but I never got an email from him. in his text tho he asked a question which I answered but then that was the end of the convo
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
- well it's suspicious to me because they don't reply even if I email to the address they texted me
- another guy texted me that he was emailing me but I never got an email from him. in his text tho he asked a question which I answered but then that was the end of the convo
Those fall far more under "normal CL interactions" to me than suspicious. Can't count the number of dead-end CL interactions I've had, both as the buyer and seller.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
I've dealt with many "real" people who don't deal with texts. Personally, I'd far prefer to conduct a transaction over email than text, it is far easier to ask and answer questions on a keyboard with a monitor than on a phone screen. I know older people who have a hard time with small font and on screen keyboards.

I wouldn't consider it any concern.

In an instance like that, it would be more reasonable to consider that IF the seller has listed the email and text reply, that a person who couldn't see the phone wouldn't sent a nondescript text in the first place.

To each their own on CL.....just don't take the check.
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Originally Posted by punkncat
In an instance like that, it would be more reasonable to consider that IF the seller has listed the email and text reply, that a person who couldn't see the phone wouldn't sent a nondescript text in the first place.
Or they listed their phone number expecting a phone call, someone sent them a text that was seventeen lines long, and they replied quickly with their preferred method.

You meet all sorts on CL. I never list a phone number, email only. I was selling a truck, and came home to a note on the windshield. A guy has seen it and wanted it, but didn't use email. He recognized the apartment complex, himself living across the road, so he walked over and found it, and the note told me he was interested and to give him a call because he doesn't have email. He bought it as soon as I called him.
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^ Funny enough, I was looking at a Ritte on CL, and it turned out the seller was riding a social ride I attend. I recognized the bike riding by and asked if they were selling on CL.....long story short I got to take a quick test ride while on route.
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Originally Posted by punkncat
^ Funny enough, I was looking at a Ritte on CL, and it turned out the seller was riding a social ride I attend. I recognized the bike riding by and asked if they were selling on CL.....long story short I got to take a quick test ride while on route.
Nice!

My best recognition story: I waited a bit too long on a nice touring setup that was being sold for nothing (i.e., less than even the dynamo hub on it). By the time I had the time to go get it, it was long gone. Walked into a bar a few days later, just to see it sitting there, as it was a fairly recognizable bike. I asked to speak with the owner, who got a scare put into him thinking I was its rightful owner coming to claim it (it was REALLY cheap), but we ended up having a good chat about cycling for a while!
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I do not include a number when dealing with Craigslist. If the seller or buyer is insistent on it, I have a Google Voice number than I can use. Email is the preferred method of conversing for me. I also use a junk email account specifically for Craigslist so that if it gets phished, I move on to another one.
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It's Craigslist, marketplace of the Millennials. I always use my cellular in ads and respond to emails or texts. Old folks email, youngsters text, that is how the world works.

I'm trying to sell something, customer is KING! ...
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Probably a scam or stolen. No reason why someone can't text in 2016.

I hate it when I see a good deal on anything on Craigslist and they only list their email.

I want to have instant access to a conversation with you, not be left hanging until you feel like checking your email. Any further replies also fall under their wimb as to whether or not they want to reply. Forget all that.

Additionally it makes deal hunting impossible, as you could be off that day, ready to show up and buy it, but now you're forced to wait in line with everyone else in this guy's email.

Having their number is also great, because if they stop replying to me, I just use another textfree app number and act like I am a new interested party, and they instantly reply. Funny how that works. A lot of people don't feel like answering questions about their item and just want you to buy it uninformed because they are lazy, it's stolen, or it's overpriced, and they start ignoring you once they figure out you can't be BS'd. I just spin to another number and ask different sets of questions to gather the info I was already going to in the first place.

When they are asking almost brand new price and refusing go down on it, I text them from 10 different numbers offering what they asked for and offer to meet up at a gas station and then once they tell me they are there, I then recant or never show up and waste their time. I do that in descending increments of 20 dollars, until I reach my initial reasonable price, and then once I offer to come to them they are so sick of being hassled and wasting their time that they accept the offer as they should have in the first place.

Use these methods and you'll get a great deal on some bikes (:

As far as selling though, in my opinion, if you want to sell anything, you need to include a phone number for direct contact. When I see only an email, I just email them, bait them by asking if it's still available, then ask what their number is to talk further.

If you're worried about someone having your precious number, get textfree or textnow and list that number.

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Originally Posted by likewater
I text them from 10 different numbers offering what they asked for and over to meet up at a gas station and then once they tell me they are there, I then recant or never show up and waste their time. I do that in descending increments of 20 dollars, until I reach my initial reasonable price, and then once I offer to come to them they are so sick of being hassled and wasting their time that they accept the offer as they should have in the first place.

Use these methods and you'll get a great deal on some bikes (:
Evil craigslist buyer. If that happened to me, I'd just take the item off CL for awhile. Although, my prices are fair value.

When selling, I put my number on the ad. Although, I hate when I get texts at 5am asking about the item. I will usually respond, but not negotiate as low as I would if the person had texted at a normal hour. Sometimes I make them wait a few hours before I respond.
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I want to have instant access to a conversation with you, not be left hanging until you feel like checking your email. Any further replies also fall under their wimb as to whether or not they want to reply. Forget all that.
If I'm in the middle of something that's more important to me, you're going to have to wait, whether you have my email address or phone number. Sorry but I'm not going to interrupt having sex with my honey just to tell you the handlebars don't come with tape and a bike frame. I'll put my phone on silent though.
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If I'm in the middle of something that's more important to me, you're going to have to wait, whether you have my email address or phone number. Sorry but I'm not going to interrupt having sex with my honey just to tell you the handlebars don't come with tape and a bike frame. I'll put my phone on silent though.
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Originally Posted by likewater
Probably a scam or stolen. No reason why someone can't text in 2016.
Some people don't have text capable phones, still. Some do, but don't know or care to use it.

I hate it when I see a good deal on anything on Craigslist and they only list their email.

I want to have instant access to a conversation with you, not be left hanging until you feel like checking your email. Any further replies also fall under their wimb as to whether or not they want to reply. Forget all that.

Additionally it makes deal hunting impossible, as you could be off that day, ready to show up and buy it, but now you're forced to wait in line with everyone else in this guy's email.
My texts get replied to less frequently than my emails. I work in an electronics lab that is effectively a faraday cage for a good part of the day, I may not get your texts for hours. Even if I am at my desk, my phone is on silent, and most texts still take hours to respond to, because I don't play on my phone that much to notice I have one, whereas my email is open on my browser. The ringer doesn't get flipped on with any regularity going home, either, so it may be a few more hours before I even notice you texted.

Having their number is also great, because if they stop replying to me, I just use another textfree app number and act like I am a new interested party, and they instantly reply. Funny how that works. .... until I reach my initial reasonable price, and then once I offer to come to them they are so sick of being hassled and wasting their time that they accept the offer as they should have in the first place.
Exactly why I don't give out my phone number. I deal with enough BS on email, I'm not having someone harass me on my phone number.

As far as selling though, in my opinion, if you want to sell anything, you need to include a phone number for direct contact. When I see only an email, I just email them, bait them by asking if it's still available, then ask what their number is to talk further.

If you're worried about someone having your precious number, get textfree or textnow and list that number.
Nothing you said in any of your post makes me realize why I need to give you a phone number, just so you can harass me until you get your way, let alone sign up with some online text service when email serves THE SAME PURPOSE.

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Originally Posted by jefnvk
Some people don't have text capable phones, still. Some do, but don't know or care to use it.



My texts get replied to less frequently than my emails. I work in an electronics lab that is effectively a faraday cage for a good part of the day, I may not get your texts for hours. Even if I am at my desk, my phone is on silent, and most texts still take hours to respond to, because I don't play on my phone that much to notice I have one, whereas my email is open on my browser. The ringer doesn't get flipped on with any regularity going home, either, so it may be a few more hours before I even notice you texted.



Exactly why I don't give out my phone number. I deal with enough BS on email, I'm not having someone harass me on my phone number.



Nothing you said in any of your post makes me realize why I need to give you a phone number, just so you can harass me until you get your way, let alone sign up with some online text service when email serves THE SAME PURPOSE.
It's not harassment, people shouldn't just stop texting interested parties but then reply to a seemingly new party instantaneously.

Textfree and textnow aren't online text services, you must not be under 30 years old. They are apps on your phone that come with a real number, and when you text someone it shows up as that number.
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Originally Posted by likewater
It's not harassment, people shouldn't just stop texting interested parties but then reply to a seemingly new party instantaneously.

Textfree and textnow aren't online text services, you must not be under 30 years old. They are apps on your phone that come with a real number, and when you text someone it shows up as that number.
When they are asking almost brand new price and refusing go down on it, I text them from 10 different numbers offering what they asked for and offer to meet up at a gas station and then once they tell me they are there, I then recant or never show up and waste their time.
That is indeed harassment.

And you are correct. I am 30, so not technically under, but I don't have the need to download an app to have multiple numbers so I can harass people. If I am doing something that I don't want to use my rel number for I, wait for it, USE EMAIL. In any case, texting serves the exact same role as email: asynchronous text based communication. Just because YOU may text nonstop all day, does not mean everyone does, or that they should change to suit you.
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I control the interactions I have on CL. As a seller, the buyer does things my way or we don't make the deal. As a buyer, the seller does things my way or we don't make the deal. If I can't have things my way I'll buy the item somewhere else. There are too many scammers, flakes and weirdos on CL for me to have it any other way. I only list an item behind the usual CL hidden email link - no phone number in the ad.

All my ads contain the following bullet points:

* Any response asking if the item is still available will be ignored. If you're reading this, the item is still available.
* I will only respond to email replies including a phone number - no phone number means no response from me. No exceptions.
* This is an in-person cash only sale. No trades of any kind will be considered. No shipping for any reason.
* Transaction to occur at a public location near to me. I will not travel to make this sale.

I expect a similar situation as a buyer, although I'm willing to travel to buy the item. Doing my ads like this, I've eliminated a lot of headaches and narrowed my contact to only the most serious buyers. The slightest hint of flakiness from a seller and I'm out.


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Originally Posted by jefnvk
That is indeed harassment.

And you are correct. I am 30, so not technically under, but I don't have the need to download an app to have multiple numbers so I can harass people. If I am doing something that I don't want to use my rel number for I, wait for it, USE EMAIL. In any case, texting serves the exact same role as email: asynchronous text based communication. Just because YOU may text nonstop all day, does not mean everyone does, or that they should change to suit you.
It is not harassment, it is counter manipulation of the situation to their own manipulation of the situation. If they don't want that to happen they should act accordingly and not ignore people. If they want to play, we can play.

I'm not saying you should, as I understand your comparison to the metal cage at your workplace. In that situation, your method is better as your browser is open. But your case is a special one.

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I control the interactions I have on CL. As a seller, the buyer does things my way or we don't make the deal. As a buyer, the seller does things my way or we don't make the deal. If I can't have things my way I'll buy the item somewhere else. There are too many scammers, flakes and weirdos on CL for me to have it any other way. I only list an item behind the usual CL hidden email link - no phone number in the ad.

All my ads contain the following bullet points:

* Any response asking if the item is still available will be ignored. If you're reading this, the item is still available.
* I will only respond to email replies including a phone number - no phone number means no response from me. No exceptions.
* This is an in-person cash only sale. No trades of any kind will be considered. No shipping for any reason.
* Transaction to occur at a public location near to me. I will not travel to make this sale.

I expect a similar situation as a buyer, although I'm willing to travel to buy the item. Doing my ads like this, I've eliminated a lot of headaches and narrowed my contact to only the most serious buyers. The slightest hint of flakiness from a seller and I'm out.


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You want things your way as a buyer and seller? I imagine you sell very little and shop a lot in stores.

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I wouldn't give out my phone number in the listing.
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It is not harassment, it is counter manipulation of the situation to their own manipulation of the situation. If they don't want that to happen they should act accordingly and not ignore people. If they want to play, we can play.
You can call it by any name you want. You are pretending to be a dozen different people in an effort to waste people's time and money, because they won't agree to your terms of communication or the sale (or, as you call it, them "not acting accordingly"). You just gave multiple perfect scenarios as to even though I am quite capable of texting, I won't just hand out my number to strangers.

They have no desire to "play", they have a desire to sell a product for what they want to get out of it. If you want it for a price in that neighborhood, harassing them because they prefer email to text is juvenile and idiotic, if you don't just toss them an offer, and if they don't bite move on.
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Buyers like that are why I don't post a number.
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