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I just joined the site. Sorry another noob here...I started cycling this summer. I have a cheap bike now. I don't want to put any money into it. I'm looking to buy a road bike max of $600. I don't feel comfortable buying a used bike. I'm a big guy 5"11 250lbs. I've found some deals on Amazon but would rather buy locally so I can ride it first. Here are some of the bikes I'm looking at in not particular order. Any suggestions would be appricated.


I road this and like it a lot. I got the body scan and 58cm is what I should get.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-3

I can get a discount on this 2016 Trek 1.1. They have a 58cm and 60cm. I can get a better discount on the 60cm if that would work for me.
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Look at the component list for each. Both the Giant and Trek use Shimano Claris which is the next to lowest on the road bike list. https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeest...heir-hierarchy The Fuji uses Shimano A070 (Tourney) which is at the bottom of the Shimano list, Evans Cycle doesn't even list it but that's where it belongs. The general opinion I see is that all of them will work OK. I personally prefer midrange components like Deore and 105 but that's because I can afford them and I look for components that work well for a lot of miles. If you are on a budget, then entry level is what you get.

The only company with the cohones to list a weight is Trek for the 56 cm 22" frame 24 lbs.
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Being a Clyde I am not a fan of low entry level bikes. The components may work OK but as mentioned, 105 is nice and durable. Low end components are bothersome as one must keep making adjustments.

The Giant bike has low spoke count wheels (24/28) and the Trek doesn't list the spoke count. But in my experience, you will be spending some cash for a new rear wheel not long after you buy a low end bike. I thrash stock wheels like there is no tomorrow on bikes that cost $1500-$2000.

Start saving for a good set of wheels, or maybe even just a strong hand built rear wheel at your weight.

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Originally Posted by edawg55
I just joined the site. Sorry another noob here...I started cycling this summer. I have a cheap bike now. I don't want to put any money into it. I'm looking to buy a road bike max of $600. I don't feel comfortable buying a used bike. I'm a big guy 5"11 250lbs. I've found some deals on Amazon but would rather buy locally so I can ride it first. Here are some of the bikes I'm looking at in not particular order. Any suggestions would be appricated.


I road this and like it a lot. I got the body scan and 58cm is what I should get.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-3

I can get a discount on this 2016 Trek 1.1. They have a 58cm and 60cm. I can get a better discount on the 60cm if that would work for me.
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Hi Im fairly new to this website but not a new rider, been at it for a while.

First I want to say don't be afraid to buy a used bike. You just have to know what to look out for.

I have a 2015 Fuji sportif 2.5, and I view it as a good entry level road bike. But I grew out of it pretty quickly. I just felt like I was going too slow. Before that I had a vintage trek 1200. Going to the Fuji was a big upgrade because of the shifters located on the brakes . I got a great deal on a used carbon triathlon bike, and I am just flying around town on it. It's about 10 pounds lighter than my Fuji. The sportif 2.5 is still a good starter bike though. Had tons of fun rides on it. Don't worry about getting the 61cm frame, it will be a bit heavier than the 58cm. I am 6'4 and mine is 58cm, And with some adjustments it fits fine.

One more thing to think about, when you buy anything new, and go to sell it one day, you automatically lose a lot of money. Hope my post wasn't too big. Happy riding 😁
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One more thing don't apologize for being a noob. And don't let idiots try to make you feel bad for asking, I made a post asking for information and some people who are angry at life tried to makenme feel dumb. But their plans failed 😃
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Originally Posted by ClydeTim
Being a Clyde I am not a fan of low entry level bikes. The components may work OK but as mentioned, 105 is nice and durable. Low end components are bothersome as one must keep making adjustments.

The Gina bike has low spoke count wheels (24/28) and the Trek doesn't list the spoke count. But in my experience, you will be spending some cash for a new rear wheel not long after you buy a low end bike. I thrash stock wheels like there is no tomorrow on bikes that cost $1500-$2000.

Start saving for a good set of wheels, or maybe even just a strong hand built rear wheel at your weight.
Man that sounds like I'm really heavy. lol I have some muscle but working on the damn beer belly. hehe

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One more thing don't apologize for being a noob. And don't let idiots try to make you feel bad for asking, I made a post asking for information and some people who are angry at life tried to makenme feel dumb. But their plans failed 😃
thanks. I just want a bike quick because it's going to get cold soon well surprisingly it was 80 a few days which is crazy for November in Ohio. I know I shouldn't rush getting a bike though.
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I have the Shimano A070 shifters on my bike and while they work ok they use a thumb button which is kind of annoying.

I'd personally go for the Contend 3, which seems to have an easier gearing. If it's hilly where you live or you struggle with climbing, it's something to consider. It also comes with Tektro brakes, the others with no-name brakes and that doesn't inspire me much confidence.

Whatever you get, please come back and share pics
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On paper, the Giant looks like a decent, entry level bike. I concur with others though that the low spoke count wheels at that entry level price are not great for a 250 lb rider. I weigh a bit more than you, but I have been as low as 250, as high as 290 over the years, and lower spoke count wheels have not held up for me. I would go at least 32 spokes on the front, 36 on the back. If you got down to 200 lbs or less, you could get away with 28 spokes front, 32 spokes rear.

Not a big deal, but you have to budget another couple of hundred or so for sturdier wheels, or find a bike that comes stock with better wheels.

The Trek looks pretty similar. Didn't see about the spoke count on the wheels, so check that out.

My advice is, take your time, and choose carefully. For most, a bike is a long term (5 years or more) purchase, and it usually makes sense to start with a bike you like than to try and upgrade an entry level bike to something mid range or high end. So make sure you find one that meets your needs AND gets you excited about riding. Comfort comes first. Not comfort as in sitting in your favorite recliner, but as in, when you get up to speed, does it feel like you could ride it for a couple of hours, or do you feel thankful when your ride is over? If you can get into a comfortable position, hopefully you can ride efficiently, which is what you want. Then find a bike with components you can live with. For some, that is entry level Claris or Sora. For others, it is 105 or Ultegra. And for others, Tiagra is fine. Test ride bikes at different price points and decide for yourself.

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If you have $600 to spend, then a Contend or Trek 1.1 would be a great starting place.

Claris shifters and components function perfectly well. YouTube will tell you how to keep them adjusted and working properly.

WHEELS:

1. Most likely, if you just ride somewhat carefully and don't do curb jumps or potholes or speed bumps too fast, you wheels will hold up fine for awhile.

2. In the case that you find out that 250lbs is too much for the wheels, you an easily find a stronger (more spokes) wheel or wheel-set for around $100-150 when the time comes if you aren't concerned with getting super-light wheels. (this could be an option if the need arises: Vuelta Corsa HD Road Wheelset)

But I wouldn't worry about it until something happens. The simple fact is, you could spend 2 or 3x your budget and still not get much more durable stock wheels on a bike.

Also, if the prices are comparable...the Trek looks like it has a carbon fork, if that makes a difference to you...if you can test ride both, that's ideal.
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My old '06 Fuji Newest with Sora drive train has 26,000 miles on it and still rolling. Fuji is good bang for the buck. The cheap, high-spoke-count Alex wheels that came on it lasted 25,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by kuroba
I have the Shimano A070 shifters on my bike and while they work ok they use a thumb button which is kind of annoying.

I'd personally go for the Contend 3, which seems to have an easier gearing. If it's hilly where you live or you struggle with climbing, it's something to consider. It also comes with Tektro brakes, the others with no-name brakes and that doesn't inspire me much confidence.

Whatever you get, please come back and share pics
What's funny is I didn't really know how to shift the bike even though the salesman showed me. I'm glad you told me that because I think that would annoy me. I'll check out the Contend 3. Looks like the same price $600.

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On paper, the Giant looks like a decent, entry level bike. I concur with others though that the low spoke count wheels at that entry level price are not great for a 250 lb rider. I weigh a bit more than you, but I have been as low as 250, as high as 290 over the years, and lower spoke count wheels have not held up for me. I would go at least 32 spokes on the front, 36 on the back. If you got down to 200 lbs or less, you could get away with 28 spokes front, 32 spokes rear.

Not a big deal, but you have to budget another couple of hundred or so for sturdier wheels, or find a bike that comes stock with better wheels.

The Trek looks pretty similar. Didn't see about the spoke count on the wheels, so check that out.

My advice is, take your time, and choose carefully. For most, a bike is a long term (5 years or more) purchase, and it usually makes sense to start with a bike you like than to try and upgrade an entry level bike to something mid range or high end. So make sure you find one that meets your needs AND gets you excited about riding. Comfort comes first. Not comfort as in sitting in your favorite recliner, but as in, when you get up to speed, does it feel like you could ride it for a couple of hours, or do you feel thankful when your ride is over? If you can get into a comfortable position, hopefully you can ride efficiently, which is what you want. Then find a bike with components you can live with. For some, that is entry level Claris or Sora. For others, it is 105 or Ultegra. And for others, Tiagra is fine. Test ride bikes at different price points and decide for yourself.
Thanks for the input. The weight definitely goes on quicker then it comes off. I'm sure if I stop drinking and ride I'll lose some weight.

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If you have $600 to spend, then a Contend or Trek 1.1 would be a great starting place.

Claris shifters and components function perfectly well. YouTube will tell you how to keep them adjusted and working properly.

WHEELS:

1. Most likely, if you just ride somewhat carefully and don't do curb jumps or potholes or speed bumps too fast, you wheels will hold up fine for awhile.

2. In the case that you find out that 250lbs is too much for the wheels, you an easily find a stronger (more spokes) wheel or wheel-set for around $100-150 when the time comes if you aren't concerned with getting super-light wheels. (this could be an option if the need arises: Vuelta Corsa HD Road Wheelset)

But I wouldn't worry about it until something happens. The simple fact is, you could spend 2 or 3x your budget and still not get much more durable stock wheels on a bike.

Also, if the prices are comparable...the Trek looks like it has a carbon fork, if that makes a difference to you...if you can test ride both, that's ideal.
I ride on paths that have some bumps but I'm pretty careful not hitting them. I usually lift my butt up. lol
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I am about the same height as you and close to your weight at 235, I would strongly recommend getting a cursory size check before buying a 58 or 60cm bike. I just purchased a 56cm road bike and would absolutely be too outstretched on 58 or 60cm, my size range was 54-56 but different mfgs may be slightly different so you may want to check their website. I know they can also do things with seat height and necks to adjust but if it is too big there is only so much adjusting one can do... I am a noob as well so don't feel alone lol..
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Personally I would forget the Fuji due to the low end Shimano Tourney that it uses.

There isn't a whole lot of difference between the Trek and the Giant to make arguing points in favor of one over the other.

I do agree that the wheels should be upgraded, when is the question. If you are buying the bike through a local bike shop (LBS) I would talk with them about the possibility of doing a swap BEFORE you take the bike off the floor and home, for a set of 36 spoke wheels. Some LBS's will do that and simply charge you for any cost difference for the better wheels, in other words they would give you credit for the original wheelset towards the cost of the other one. If they'll do that it will save you money over the long haul so you don't end up replacing a wheelset in 5,000 or so miles. Most LBS's sell and have in stock these sort of wheels, if not they can order them, Velocity makes a great wheelset called the Dyad which is a really strong 36 hole rim and some LBS's do carry these, there are other brands too that make good wheelsets.
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Trek is fine . good Company, There is a Trek dealership, here..

to repeat : pick the Shop you like for after sale Service. get a bike there ..

many brands come out of very few OEM Factories now, so brands of bikes sold in bike shops ,

at same price point will be more similar than different. don't sweat the small stuff . parts are interchangeable.




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Lots of used road bikes in your size on the Columbus Craigslist.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/5829932717.html

This one needs a new front derailleur, but at only $99 you can't go wrong...
https://columbus.craigslist.org/bid/5854724486.html
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At 250 or more, you may wish to look into touring bikes (used, I think only Fuji makes one near the $600 range). You will get sturdy 36 spoke wheels, a more user-friendly triple in the front and, likely (since it will likely be used) better components.

I took this route with my Novara Randonee (new for $950 during REI's annual sale), Mavic 36 spoke wheels, Sora components. Tough to find an owner willing to sell...
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The Fuji Touring bike could be a good choice. Its made to carry extra weight, and it comes with 36 spoke count wheels.
If I remember correctly (?) you can upgrade to your shifting to on your brake levers (vs touring bar end style shifting).
Its a great looking touring bike to boot.
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Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "cheap" bike, and what about it doesn't suit you now?

IMO, the best place to start is to identify exactly why you are looking for a new bike, and use that criteria to guide you

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Man that sounds like I'm really heavy. lol I have some muscle but working on the damn beer belly. hehe

thanks. I just want a bike quick because it's going to get cold soon well surprisingly it was 80 a few days which is crazy for November in Ohio. I know I shouldn't rush getting a bike though.
As one with a beer belly, I'd highly suggest you try the bikes out, and ensure the fit works with your belly. There is no way I can get myself into the good aero pose I'd need for many sizing systems.

Also, unless you foresee a lot of riding in the winter, I wouldn't be in a massive rush to buy now just to get a couple weeks on it. I know most of the LBS near me have sales in the springtime trying to clear out old stock.
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The Fuji Touring bike could be a good choice. Its made to carry extra weight, and it comes with 36 spoke count wheels.
If I remember correctly (?) you can upgrade to your shifting to on your brake levers (vs touring bar end style shifting).
Its a great looking touring bike to boot.
This is a great idea, I didn't realize the Fuji Touring price was that low, I would go this route instead of the other choices and then have to go through the hassle of hoping the lbs will do a wheel swap, plus the frame is more stout than either of the other three. The Alievo components are one up from tourney but one below Claris which should be ok for a while, but it's cheaper to replace a failed component than a failed wheel and it will probably last quite a bit longer than a wheel will.
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This is a great idea, I didn't realize the Fuji Touring price was that low, I would go this route instead of the other choices and then have to go through the hassle of hoping the lbs will do a wheel swap, plus the frame is more stout than either of the other three. The Alievo components are one up from tourney but one below Claris which should be ok for a while, but it's cheaper to replace a failed component than a failed wheel and it will probably last quite a bit longer than a wheel will.
The price is right, and the wheels are better suited for a 250 lb rider. It is over 28 lbs though. Not really a big deal, but about 4 lbs heavier than, say the Trek 1.1. On the other hand, the triple crankset is better suited to heavier riders, as is the clearance for wider tires.

All depends what you want to do. i split the difference with my current bike. Not a true road bike, but not a a true loaded touring bike either.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
This is a great idea, I didn't realize the Fuji Touring price was that low,
Although, the one consideration (dunno if it matters to the OP or not) is the Fuji Touring is bar end shifters, not brifters. Swapping them out, if important, will add cost.
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Although, the one consideration (dunno if it matters to the OP or not) is the Fuji Touring is bar end shifters, not brifters. Swapping them out, if important, will add cost.
It would. If op went the touring bike route, maybe needs to just decide if he can live with bar end shifters. Some cyclists prefer them.
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Wait another 3 weeks for the Black Friday sales then check out Performance Bike again.
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Fit, Fit, Fit

and wide tires (at least 700x35)

flat bar is fine if you add bar ends (drop bars are good too)

whatever brand you choose, get these things
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
This is a great idea, I didn't realize the Fuji Touring price was that low, I would go this route instead of the other choices and then have to go through the hassle of hoping the lbs will do a wheel swap, plus the frame is more stout than either of the other three.
I am not personally familiar with the Fuji Touring, but it seems to be an insanely good value. If I were in the market for a touring bike I would have to argue with myself for some time to talk me out of buying one.


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The Alievo components are one up from tourney but one below Claris which should be ok for a while, but it's cheaper to replace a failed component than a failed wheel and it will probably last quite a bit longer than a wheel will.
I think you are mistaken. I believe the group quality lineup for Shimano road and their roughly equivalent mountain groups is as follows (from most to least expensive):
Dura Ace/XTR, Ultegra/XT, 105/SLX, Tiagra/Deore, Sora/Alivio, Claris/Acera. So an Alivio derailleur is going to be slightly better than a Claris derailleur. And what does 'better' mean? WRT derailleur quality, you will probably get a slightly longer-lasting derailleur that will be easier to keep adjusted after a season or two of regular riding. Higher end stuff might be a little lighter and have slightly smoother action, bearings instead of bushings in the pulleys, etc. But I personally don't believe any of these things make a measurable or noticeable difference when the parts are new. Claris and Acera and Altus and the like are all fantastic value and work as well as the most expensive stuff when new, IME. If a bike I liked and that fit me well had any of those parts I would not hesitate for a second to buy it. Some parts may wear out and need replacing after a couple seasons, but this makes no difference if you want a bike right now. The minor quality differences between one entry level bike and another are far less important than the fit of the bike - a bike with high-end parts will not perform as well as a bike with lower end parts of the lower end bike fits better.
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