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Old 11-22-16, 01:07 PM
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1st bike need accessories

Hi everyone, so I bought a trek emonda s6 and will have it paid off by end of next month. I am currently trying to decide what accessories to get.

Pedals- ultegra pd6800
I've read I can't go wrong with these whether I'm on my trainer or on the road.

Cleats- I'm not sure what to go with here and would love input.

Saddle- I'm gonna be riding to graduate school which at a minimum is 1e miles away, so I want some thing comfortable, I'm just not sure what to look for.

Backpack- I need something that I can carry a change of clothes in and a few books but still hugs the body so it's not making to much wind drag.

Clothes- it's cold here in chambersburg pa and it's getting colder, so I need something warm

Helmet- don't know what to get

Tool kit- don't know what to get

Car rack- don't know
Bike stand- don't know

I'm completely open to all suggestions as I am a novice and new to the sport. I used to ride a heavy moutain bike from Germantown to center city Philadelphia so I know I can handle the ride, I just need the right gear.
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How many miles? I'm guessing 1E miles is not really 30

Helmet: find something that fits YOUR head. Ditto for backpack, that is going to be a fairly personal decision. I'd personally go for a rack that I could put a bag on top of if I am commuting, I'm guessing that's not going on an Emonda though.

Tool kit: a pair of tire levers, a spare tube, and a pump. Also extra quick link for the chain.

Also a lock, if you are commuting to a university. Preferably, a decent one.
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Originally Posted by hyg71886 View Post
Hi everyone, so I bought a trek emonda s6 and will have it paid off by end of next month. I am currently trying to decide what accessories to get.

Pedals- ultegra pd6800
I've read I can't go wrong with these whether I'm on my trainer or on the road.
If you are riding to school and then need to walk much or climb any significant stairs then I'd really suggest getting something else. SPD pedals and MTB shoes make much better commuting footwear. Save the single sided road pedals for long weekend rides.

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Cleats- I'm not sure what to go with here and would love input.
Pedals come with cleats. Do you mean shoes?

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Saddle- I'm gonna be riding to graduate school which at a minimum is 1e miles away, so I want some thing comfortable, I'm just not sure what to look for.
Very personal choice, dependent on both your body shape and position on the bike. Don't be fooled thinking softer is more comfortable. Aside from perhaps short rides, it won't be.

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Backpack- I need something that I can carry a change of clothes in and a few books but still hugs the body so it's not making to much wind drag.
Consider a rear rack and pannier. I've commuted with a backpack but rearward vision is restricted and it is simply less comfortable, far less comfortable as the weight increases. I'm sweating anyway so the heat isn't an issue for me but may be for you.

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Clothes- it's cold here in chambersburg pa and it's getting colder, so I need something warm
Trial and error for most people. Do you have a spot to change at school? When I commuted in the winter, I wore a variety of thermal tights or cross country skiing pants depending on just how cold it was. Same for jerseys, gloves, and headwear. Balaclavas work well when it's 20F and below.

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Tool kit- don't know what to get
Start with something simple to allow you to repair flats on the road. Small multi-tool, tire levers, spare tubes, and a pump.

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Car rack- don't know
For what purposes?

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Bike stand- don't know
Only really necessary if doing lots of work. I do most repairs off my stand to be honest, only really breaking it out when doing a full (re)build on a bike or other major overhaul. They are nice for tuning derailleurs but I frequently even do that without it.
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Re pedals and cleats:

The Ultegra pedals will come with a set of cleats. However, you need to make sure that the shoes you buy will fit those cleats. Ultegra cleats, like most "road" pedal cleats, have 3 holes. Also keep in mind that road shoes and cleats are not optimal for walking any further than a few yards at a time. If your parking/locking situation has you walking anymore than a few yards a day, you'll quickly wear out the cleats. And they're superstiff and have no grip and you can totally slip and kill yourself on slick concrete.

That's why many commuters who use clipless pedals use MTB pedals/shoes/cleats. They're a bit more walkable. Others swear by platform pedals and "normal" shoes.
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Those Ultegra pedals wouldn't be my first pick for the use that you indicated. I'd pick something in the SPD line because they take a more recessed cleat so you can walk in your shoes more easily. Whatever pedals you choose, a set of cleats will come with them.

Riding to school means you need a lock. College campus = serious lock. A skinny cable lock won't cut it - pun intended.

Unfortunately, picking a saddle is kind of hunt and peck process. Ride for awhile and see where you hurt. Then pick a saddle that looks to you like it might address that. I personally like Brooks saddles but they're expensive and even they don't suit everybody.

Helmet - doesn't matter. Pick one that meets your aesthetic requirements and fits in your budget.

Tool kit - start with enough stuff to fix a flat tire. Spare inner tube, pump, and you'll probably want a set of tire levers. Pumps are like locks the wimpy little ones don't cut it. If you get into maintenance, buy tools as you find a need for them. You really don't need all that much. You'll be surprised at how far just a 5 mm allen key will take you.

Clothes - I recently bought myself a pair of cross country ski pants. So far I'm thinking that was a good choice for a cold weather activity like bicycling. Most of the bicycling tights that I've seen have been too thin to be very warm. Get warmer gloves than you think that you'll need.
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This is all really great feedback thanks everyone. On the bike rack no I don't believe I'd be able to put one on this bike. I did mean shoes when I said cleats sorry about that. I will also be doing in house training with my vortex smart trainer, so I wanted a good all around pedal.
I wanted to go through the shop I got the bike at but it's all trek only stuff. He was great with helping with the bike pic and he took several hundred off. I was looking at bike clothes and wanna make sure I'm warm but how many layers should I wear and how do I know when I wore to many layers? The car rack is for when I go somewhere, for example when I go to texas I'd like to take my bike.
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As a general rule, if you are comfortable when you start, you are over-dressed. If you're cold for the first 10 minutes, you're just right.
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I assume that's due to my body heat increasing once I start riding. Good to know. I do not plan on leaving my bike outside I'm in grad school so it's coming in the class. I don't want someone walking off with my bike or the weather pounding on it for that matter
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As a commuter, start with just the bare minimum you need, and deciding as you go with what you actually need with you.

You'll do fine with mtb spds for "all around" - and they really are much better for getting off the bike, and you can get urban SPD type shoes. I would recommend getting the double sided ones - they give you a bit of a platform and you can either go clipless or wear normal shoes.

For bags, look into companies that make bike specific bags. They are more pricey, but much better suited to life on a bike. Chrome Industries and Timbuk2 come to mind.

Saddle is a preference thing, but if you want the best check out a Brooks Cambium.

Get a very bright front a rear light. Shorter daylight hours and all that.

Just get the helmet from the shop you are getting the bike from. I'm sure they will have something you like
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Your First Bike Is Trek Emonda? and now you want to commute on it? How secure will it be ??

Colleges are Hotbeds of Bike theft.


NB :

10% off all accessories for a Newly sold Bike is a common dealer offer + if, as My LBS , they put things on for You.

You can go back to where you got the bike and see if they still will do that deal.



Seem rather Posh for a commuter , to me.. It heavily insured for when it is stolen or Damaged ?




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The first thing I would get is a beater for commuting to campus so I could leave my nice new road bike at home.
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The first thing I would get is a beater for commuting to campus so I could leave my nice new road bike at home.
There's that too. My law school bike was Montgomery Wards lady's 3-speed shopping bike.
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Get a mirror, mount it to the handlebar or your helmet. Once you get used to it, you'll feel naked without it.
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My two cents ...

Shouldn't you get some lights first of all?

Saddle is a personal choice, but I wouldn't get one just yet. Get some miles in, get used to the bike and revisit that later.
Helmet also seems individual, but for the record a cheap Bell helmet is fine.
Tools: tire levers, patch kit, pump (or CO2 pump), multitool. If you want maintenance tools start with cone wrenches, cassette wrench and chain whip, chain breaker, and whatever your pedals need.
Bike stand is not urgent - in fact yesterday I used crutches with a cross board under the rack for a stand.
Get some wicking shirts from the sporting goods store for layers, long sleeve jersey, and shorts if you want (any kind). You probably want leg warmers or tights in PA weather although in truth warmups will work. Water resistant windbreaker, gloves, maybe a balaclava and you should be covered.
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Leggings
Face Mask

Thats some of the gear I've found so far. I think I will also take a look in his biking shop, still looking for a backpack. Why do you recommend not using my main bike?
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Old 11-23-16, 12:06 AM
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thought I was the only one that noticed he didn't mention any lights. If it was me:

Bike lock, helmet, lights, tool kit in that order. I know you said you plan on keeping it inside but at the very least get a cheap cable lock for those times you need to do a quick stop at the drug store. All the other stuff you mention are luxuries. Get your safety stuff first.
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Why do you recommend not using my main bike?
Your bike will take a lot of abuse commuting to campus and locking it in a rack, and it might get stolen. I prefer to commute on bikes with fenders and a rack that are beat up from the start, so I don't have to spend any time worrying about it or maintaining it.
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for the backpack, try this; Deuter race exp air. I have been commuting (34 mile round trip) for 18 months and have had this for the last 6 and its great

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As for the pump: Walmarts cheap Bell 700 mini pump has served me well for a long time.
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Buy an 1970's-80's Schwinn 10 speed. Its amazing how unattractive they are to college campus thieves. (kind of kidding, but worth considering)

Helmet

Shimano SPD double sided M530 pedals. It's really nice to not have to wear bike shoes exclusively for a multi-purpose/commuter type bike.

Lights, front and back

You might like a seat-post bike rack with a quick detach clamp. No clamping to the bike frame.

Clothes? ride with regular clothes and buy bike specific stuff as needed.
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Car rack- don't know
Bike stand- don't know

definitely, but they can wait
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If you're in Philadelphia sometime, I can give you my Rhode Gear Cycle Shuttle. (or can mail it if you pay for the postage.)


This is not mine, but I think I have the same one. It's about 25 years old, in near new condition, infrequently used, and stored inside in the original box. I have a hitch mount now so was going to donate this by end of year. Fits on the trunk, so you need to be aware that it could cause scratches on your trunk (any trunk mounted one could). You might want to get shammy to put underneath the pads.



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Originally Posted by hyg71886 View Post
Hi everyone, so I bought a trek emonda s6 and will have it paid off by end of next month. I am currently trying to decide what accessories to get.

Pedals- ultegra pd6800
I've read I can't go wrong with these whether I'm on my trainer or on the road.
They seem fine. But almost any pedal system will work. Just make sure that your shoes support the 3 bolt pattern (Look, Time, Shimano SPD-SL) or 2 bolt (Shimano SPD, Crank Bros, etc). I've used Look for eons so have stayed with Keo pedals.

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Cleats- I'm not sure what to go with here and would love input.
The pedal will determine the cleat type. SPD-SL for Ultegra PD6800. Only other choice might be degree of float. Maybe select something with at least a few degrees of float (I use the Look grey cleats that have 4.5 degrees of float). But that's personal preference.

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Saddle- I'm gonna be riding to graduate school which at a minimum is 1e miles away, so I want some thing comfortable, I'm just not sure what to look for.
1e miles? Is that 31 miles in hexadecimal? If so, then that's a really long commute. Saddle is a very tough thing to recommend. Highly personal choice since noone's backside is the same. Maybe try measuring your sit bones to get a saddle width to start with.

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Backpack- I need something that I can carry a change of clothes in and a few books but still hugs the body so it's not making to much wind drag.
I wouldn't worry about wind drag on commuting. I use a 23L backpack but only carry work clothes and essential tools. If you throw books into the mix, then the backpack might get a little heavy and give some neck, shoulder and/or lower back pain. Either try to go without the books (PDF at home and keep in locker on campus?) or look for a rack that can be clamped onto your seatpost since it looks like your bike does not have eyelets for a rack.

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Clothes- it's cold here in chambersburg pa and it's getting colder, so I need something warm
I general, I use two layers chest one on legs 40-49F, three layers chest two on legs 30-39F and four layers chest two on legs 20-29F. This is in addition to light and winter gloves, shoe covers, winter cap, and balaclava for really cold temps. There are other threads here on winter clothing. I like cycling specific clothing, but you could get away with other types (wool sweaters, hiking, etc).

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Helmet- don't know what to get
This depends on your head shape and size. I like Giro large helmets but there are a slew of other brands. You really have to try it on. I'd focus more on fit and price rather than safety.

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Tool kit- don't know what to get
Just take the minimum. I've been carrying only Park AWS-11 folding hex wrench set (has 8mm for crank bolts), 15mm open end wrench (for rear brake alignment), spoke wrench, tire levers, spare tube and mini-pump. I leave a floor pump in the car to pump up my tires in the morning before the ride.

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Car rack- don't know
I don't use any. I just throw my bike in the trunk on an old Audi A4 with the rear seats down.

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Bike stand- don't know
I don't use a bike repair stand. It's one of those "nice to have" items but not an essential tool for most maintenance work on the bike.

Edit: Like a few have mentioned above, I also think lights are important. I've been using an old halogen with a water bottle battery Jet light in the front and a Cygolight Hotshot Pro for the back. But you can get brighter and smaller front light that will be one piece and fit on the handlebar nowadays. There are multiple threads here on light recommendations.

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Sorry for the late response everyone, last few weeks of my first semester in grad school. I am looking for lights currently and I appreciate all the fed back. Question on the using a different bike to take to school. The bike will be with me in what ever office or class I am in. It will not be left outside. What kind of bike are you all suggesting I get to ride back and forth? I did just spend 1800 on this one to save on vehicle maintenance and train. I guess I'm trying to figure out am I gonna need a bike for the bike for the bike if that makes sense.
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I live in Mechanicsburg, Pa and commute to work in an old safari jacket (if needed), and add layers of old clothes (as needed) and switch to heavy socks and Duluth Trading Firehose pants and add a watch cap and leather gloves and scarf as it gets down to 17 degrees F. I carry a change of clothes, washcloth, towel and deodorant and do a hobo bath in a sink and change after cooling down after the ride.

Agree w/ rack and panniers rather than backpack (used a backpack for almost a year and found it uncomfortable, sweaty, and was concerned about the higher center of gravity).

I rode my daughter's Trek mountain bike to work for over 4 years, and just did an ABC quick check before each trip and was always okay --- had to tighten up a few bolts, and would stop at the grocery store's gas station if need be for air. When she finally wanted it at college I (eventually) got to buy a new bike and got a folding bike for better security at work.

Currently kitting it out, which has been a lot of fun, and quite educational (things have changed a lot since I was a kid and rode almost constantly).
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