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Old 12-03-16, 10:30 AM
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Adding a bottle cage to large elliptical down tube

I need to add a third bottle cage to my bike. The only space I have available now is on the underside of the down tube. My down tube is aluminum and elliptical shaped. Old school method of inner tube strip to protect finish and a pair of hose clamps would be ok by me, but I'm not sure whether the hose clamps would conform to the shape of the tube or not.

I've considered some of the other solutions that one can buy but most of those use Velcro, and I am really not a fan of Velcro.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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these don't look like much, but they're actually well thought-out and bulletproof. King Cage - Bicycle waterbottle cages handmade in Durango, CO
The King Cage Universal Support Bolt is a hose-clamp with a welded M5 stud and nylok nut.
I recently put cages on my '74 International frame with these - I used strips of leftover Brooks leather beneath the hose clamps, but you could use strips of innertube or helicopter tape.
They're bulletproof and rock solid. They can hang under downtube, etc.


the hose clamps are spring stainless and will conform.


Another product I've used in the past that will certainly conform is Klickfix - Velofred has these
- the metal strap is a long U and begins as an elipse, anyway



I've tried some of the other stuff (Elite, VO straps), but these two are the best by far.

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Two behind the saddle worked for me.



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Originally Posted by bulldog1935 View Post
these don't look like much, but they're actually well thought-out and bulletproof. King Cage - Bicycle waterbottle cages handmade in Durango, CO
The King Cage Universal Support Bolt is a hose-clamp with a welded M5 stud and nylok nut.
I recently put cages on my '74 International frame with these - I used strips of leftover Brooks leather beneath the hose clamps, but you could use strips of innertube or helicopter tape.
They're bulletproof and rock solid. They can hang under downtube, etc.


the hose clamps are spring stainless and will conform.


Another product I've used in the past that will certainly conform is Klickfix - Velofred has these
- the metal strap is a long U and begins as an elipse, anyway



I've tried some of the other stuff (Elite, VO straps), but these two are the best by far.

Those clamps from King Cage look like just what I need. Thanks!
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Two behind the saddle worked for me.



Would love the behind the seat idea, but between seat springs (Brooks B67) and rack mounted trunk bag, no real-estate left in the back yard.
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make sure you buy two for one cage
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Originally Posted by bulldog1935 View Post
make sure you buy two for one cage
Indeed. Might pick up couple extra too.
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and you're welcome - I've enjoyed building this bike over the past month and showing it off...
and ridden it 150 mi over the past 2 weeks - would be riding it this weekend, but rained in


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Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Have a look at Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze
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and you're welcome - I've enjoyed building this bike over the past month and showing it off...
and ridden it 150 mi over the past 2 weeks - would be riding it this weekend, but rained in

Wow. I just looked at your bike, then looked and mine and sighed. lol. Ah well....
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Riv Nuts , It is How The Bottle bosses are fitted on aluminum frames , My 7005 alloy Koga Trekking bike has a dozen
Riv nuts , done at The factory.

I need to add a third bottle cage to my bike. The only space I have available now is on the underside of the down tube. My down tube is aluminum and elliptical shaped.
no problem, the under side is easy to access.. I Have a 3rd Bottle cage there ..





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there's actually 6 years of tweaking there - the drivetrain and cockpit were on a lower-grade Raleigh frame and I bought the bare International frame and moved it all over
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I actually had a chance to try one similar to that one on for size. It didn't do well with the wide elliptical down tube on my bike and consequently kept shifting it's position.
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Check around. My LBS has a tool to create factory looking screw attachments (are these called busses?). Looked and worked just like the attachments that came on the bike. They did it for me on a steel bike but I imagine that they could do it on carbon or aluminum.
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Check around. My LBS has a tool to create factory looking screw attachments (are these called busses?). Looked and worked just like the attachments that came on the bike. They did it for me on a steel bike but I imagine that they could do it on carbon or aluminum.
Your local bike shop probably drilled holes and inserted "rivnuts" (portmanteau of rivet and nut). Since the wall thickness of elliptical/oversized aluminum tubing can be VERY thin, I'd personally be wary of drilling and installing rivnuts on Pops' frame.

...and I think the word you were looking for is "boss", not "bus".
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