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Old 12-09-16, 01:15 AM
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The world's toughest bike race?

Could be La Ruta de los Conquistadores in Costa Rica,

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/08/sp...e=sectionfront

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Old 12-09-16, 07:32 AM
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wow! is all I can say
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Old 12-09-16, 07:43 AM
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Yeap, it's on the list of the eight toughest in the world. The World's 8 Hardest Bike Races | ACTIVE

If you look at the list, many of them are races, such as the TdF...which got me wondering...

When you watch marathon races (sport of running) and such, it always includes us 'Regular Joes' and allows us to participate with the elites. However, many cycling races don't allow this. I wonder if there would be more interest in cycling if races, such as the Tour of California, allowed regular joes participate?

I wonder if that's why running races are so popular around the country, at least more so than cycling events...
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Old 12-09-16, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by work4bike View Post
When you watch marathon races (sport of running) and such, it always includes us 'Regular Joes' and allows us to participate with the elites. However, many cycling races don't allow this. I wonder if there would be more interest in cycling if races, such as the Tour of California, allowed regular joes participate?

I wonder if that's why running races are so popular around the country, at least more so than cycling events...
This is exactly what a true Gran Fondo is. For example...A true Gran Fondo is a race. Elite riders race each other for the win, mid-pack riders race against themselves for a personal record and back-pack riders race against the clock to beat cut off time.

True Gran Fondo's are timed events on a marked course over closed roads. If an event isn't a race with marked course, closed roads and timing then it isn't a Gran Fondo regardless of what the organizers call it. If it lacks these features then it is a ciclismo.

True Fondo's are very common in Europe where volunteers can close roads and direct traffic but relatively uncommon in the USA because of the cost of law enforcement having to close roads.

But "regular Joe's" participating is the whole point of a Gran Fondo.


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Old 12-09-16, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by work4bike View Post
Yeap, it's on the list of the eight toughest in the world. The World's 8 Hardest Bike Races | ACTIVE

If you look at the list, many of them are races, such as the TdF...which got me wondering...

When you watch marathon races (sport of running) and such, it always includes us 'Regular Joes' and allows us to participate with the elites. However, many cycling races don't allow this. I wonder if there would be more interest in cycling if races, such as the Tour of California, allowed regular joes participate?

I wonder if that's why running races are so popular around the country, at least more so than cycling events...
I'd say it's self limiting really, based on organizer logistics, they can't have 10,000+ riders to look after during a race. They pick teams based on some criteria I don't understand. But the reality is.

Major tour requirements: support car(s) + crew, multiple bikes, cooks, masseuse, domestiques, etc. Without these you'd likely not finish a stage withing 2 hrs of the top contenders.

Requirements of running a marathon include: plane ticket to a major city and a pair of shoes.
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Old 12-09-16, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by work4bike View Post

I wonder if that's why running races are so popular around the country, at least more so than cycling events...

It might have something to do with the difference in cost of participation.
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I bicycled the all-mountain route from Los Angeles to Canada. When I stopped in Markleeville the librarian asked me if I was on the 'Death Ride'. I told her that I hoped I wasn't.
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Old 12-09-16, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
It might have something to do with the difference in cost of participation.
Mixing elite/pro with amateur racers is already done and wildly popular in Europe. It's called a Gran Fondo. See post 4.

Cycling is certainly a more expensive sport than running but entry fees for organized running races are not cheap and Gran Fondo entry fees are comparable.

New York City Marathon ... $250 to $300 entry fee
Gran Fondo NY ... $304.45 entry fee


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Originally Posted by nickw View Post
Requirements of running a marathon include: plane ticket to a major city and a pair of shoes.
Last time I ran a marathon it required a bit more than that.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Last time I ran a marathon it required a bit more than that.
Sorry - should have mentioned shorts, tanktop, sunglasses and body glide....so you are right, more similar to a Pro Tour team than I thought
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Old 12-09-16, 01:02 PM
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Then there is the Off road open countryside 3 Peaks Cyclo-Cross

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Riders began the three-day race on Nov. 3, on the the country’s Pacific coast. A little less than 10 percent of the 343 entrants did not reach the finish line at the Caribbean.
Less than a 10% DNF rate? I would expect the "world's toughest bike race" to have a higher DNF rate.
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Old 12-09-16, 07:32 PM
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What is the DNF rate of the Tour Divide? I figured more like 25%. And the TD adds in grizzlies and subfreezing temps..hehe.
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Old 12-10-16, 07:13 PM
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Hour record on the track. No other race compares.
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Old 12-10-16, 08:54 PM
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Then there is the Off road open countryside 3 Peaks Cyclo-Cross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVK6tR4s9LA
No Jaguars though.
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IDKwhat the British competitors drove to get there , Maybe a Few Jaguar owners put a Bike rack on their car boot.
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Originally Posted by TomM View Post
Less than a 10% DNF rate? I would expect the "world's toughest bike race" to have a higher DNF rate.
I was thinking the same thing about the 'ease' of finishing. Maybe there is something like the Barkley Marathons, but on a bike, that I or most don't know about? It was almost 10 years before anyone actually finished the Barkley. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barkley_Marathons If a century is similar to a marathon, then the Barkley would be similar to riding the La Ruta de los Conquistadores 4 times in alternating directions with a 60 hour cutoff.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Last time I ran a marathon it required a bit more than that.
Last time I ran a marathon I walked out the door and ran 26 miles. I started at midnight and ended about 4 AM and was alone. It didn't count, but I'm not going to win anyway.

I've also bicycled across America, taking a much tougher route than the RAAM; I saw the sights and visited friends. I enjoyed myself. I carried all my own stuff.
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What's the story behind that picture?
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I'd say it's self limiting really, based on organizer logistics, they can't have 10,000+ riders to look after during a race. They pick teams based on some criteria I don't understand. But the reality is.
I've been on organized rides with 5-7000 people to look after, including one timed (but apparently incorrectly labelled, as roads were not closed) Gran Fondo. They do a good enough job.
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