drlogik 

It was me. I was violating my own policy of never posting a negative-tone comment and I still won't.

I just got done doing a little Googling. Why? Well, because I'd like to know if the self-sticky patches are permanent or not.

Suffice to say it is all over the board. There is no definitive word, result or conclusion that I could find.

Some claim they are the best thing since sliced bread. Others cuss them as the invention of the devil. Most of the posts I read though were the middle-of-the-roaders who tolerate them because they are a fast road-side repair that gets them home. That would be me too.

The short version:
Those that like them love them! Those dislike them, hate them! Those that tolerate them use them to get home.

I think the problems I have had were because I rode in a VERY dusty desert environment and getting the tube clean enough for those patches to stick for very long is/was an impossible task. The Park site also says the tire has to be dry. Not a problem in the desert, obviously, but elsewhere it could be an issue...or on a rainy day.

Me? They remain in my seat bag and my patch box for the reason I stated and I continue to buy them.

ClydeTim

BTW, making up stories is not my game like other people. Not sure what stories I could be making up but as far as my Strava story earlier, here is the comment I posted about earlier.

One of my friends had 2 flats and had to call for a ride home cause glueless patches suck! Someone made a comment like, "who carries 2 tubes?" and I replied that I did Then I vulcanize when I get home. This would be the only story I could be accused of making up here so I will post proof I don't talk out of my arse like some people.

The names have been shaded to protect the innocent!

rekmeyata

For the rest of the sane people on this forum, read the sites I gave, there is more than enough people on those sites that prove glueless patches not only work but will work for the usual life of the tube. Just read all the posts on all the sites, sure it's time consuming but that's the only way you're going to know that what I've said is true. Of course you're going to read about those that had problems but I stand on what I said earlier, either they didn't prepare the tube correctly and thus blame the patch, or they bought cheap glueless patches and blamed the patch, or both. If I can patch a friend's tube this last spring who swore against glueless patches with a glueless patch, and showed him as I did it how to do it, and that patch held up for at least a year, and he's been able to duplicate what I showed him and now all he only used glueless patches, PLUS all those people on those sites that used glueless patches with success doesn't make me a liar or a fluke.

Just read the sites. And there are more sites I didn't even post like this one: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=59737.0 this site is interesting because there is a poster here that mentions they work real well except when it gets below freezing, this I don't know since I don't ride my bike outside when it's that cold, I do know that I store my bikes in the garage and the temps will drop below freezing and the patches have held up, but that might be due to the fact they were already applied and sealed before the temps dropped. However there have been reports that glue on patches can fail on trainers because the heat gets too high and melts the glue away from the patch.

Here's a reviewer who says glueless patch is the best he's ever used: Review: Lezyne Lever Patch Kit | road.cc

Another forum: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntr...ueless-patches

At the beginning of each season I do go and buy brand new glueless patches because I'm not sure if the adhesive will last a full year or more, but I had to do that with glue anyways because the glue was usually dried up by the time next season came around. Along with that I never use CO2 because I've heard glueless patches don't work well with CO2 (but I have other reasons not to use CO2), and I know they don't last long on latex tubes.

Again, it's all about proper preparation of the tube and buying a quality glueless patch like the Lezyne (now that I've read about them due to this post), and Park.

coominya

That's what I thought would be the case. The complaints are probably from people with no basic mechanical sense who simply didn't apply the patch properly or applied it to someplace other than the leaky bit

rekmeyata

Ok smart guy, explain why some people have success and some don't? enlighten us with your wisdom.

Kaze6

This sounds like a solution in desperate need of a problem.

I can't think of a single time that I ever needed to patch a bike tire in the field that I didn't have the rest of the bike there too . . .including the itty-bitty pouch under the seat or in the pannier pocket with tools and patch kit.

coominya

Because some know what they are doing and some don't.

rekmeyata

That's what I've been saying but I'm running into flak...what else is new?

coominya

I believe over there all your schools have test scores standardized so that everyone gets an A or a B regardless of performance. If the uneducated people in a community don't know thay are uneducated it must lead to some very frustrating outcomes I'm sure.

rekmeyata

not only that but we have sports in grade school where the points don't count, they're all winners, which means they're not taught what real life really is all about. What you said is the reason the US schools are ranked only 14th out of 34 countries looked at in the entire world.