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Old 01-05-17, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo View Post
This is so true. I've always been such a weigh-weenie minimalist/racer type and I'm now riding more "adventure." It just does not make sense, anymore, to just carry an extra tube in a tiny bag on my rides, which are becoming more extended and perhaps a bit less focused on training.

One thing, though, I do know and can state for all the world to see: I will never, ever wear one of those little mirrors no matter how "fred" I become!
Don't carry a spare tube? I guess you like to walk make the call of shame? My mirror goes on the left drop on the commuter. Useful to see behind you. YRMV.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Freds are fine. What you want to avoid becoming is a poseur.
Originally Posted by SpeshulEd View Post
I know a lot of bike people that take pride in being a Fred.
Freds are often genuine, authentic, real people. Their hobby isn't themselves.
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How Fred am I? Let me count the ways:

(All on my $$ CF bike)

1) Bike is bight electric blue (I think that may count)
2) Short, upright handlebar stem
3) Frame pump
4) Pinned platform pedals (!)
5) Folding Click-Stand© velcro'd to frame
6) Big helmet-mounted mirror
7) Bell
8) Large seat bag
9) Top tube bag
10) Rear seat-post rack attached when commuting
11) Hi-viz safety vest worn when commuting

I'm probably leaving something out.

The result of all of this? Big smile on my face every time I ride.

If you're going to be a Fred, go big and go proudly!
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Old 01-05-17, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Freds are what poseurs call non-poseurs.

Posers don't know they are posers. They think they are serious cyclists.

Serious cyclists don't know that they are silly cyclists. They think they are pros.
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Old 01-05-17, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
Don't carry a spare tube? I guess you like to walk make the call of shame? My mirror goes on the left drop on the commuter. Useful to see behind you. YRMV.
I think you misread his post. It was clear to me that he was saying that it is no longer sufficient to carry only a single tube in a small bag.
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Old 01-05-17, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
I think you misread his post. It was clear to me that he was saying that it is no longer sufficient to carry only a single tube in a small bag.
Psst: She.....would that be Frederica then?

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Old 01-05-17, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Psst: She.....would that be Frederica then?

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Well, for the record then, I am a "he." I participated in the famous "testicle" thread and was fully qualified to have done so.
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Old 01-05-17, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo View Post
Well, for the record then, I am a "he." I participated in the famous "testicle" thread and was fully qualified to have done so.
Sorry sir, my bad.


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Old 01-05-17, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Sorry sir, my bad.


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Oh, no problem. You're not the first person to have been confused about that by any stretch. I guess one of these days I'll shear off this mane.
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Old 01-05-17, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo View Post
Oh, no problem. You're not the first person to have been confused about that by any stretch. I guess one of these days I'll shear off this mane.
Take a good long listen to David Crosby singing "Almost Cut My Hair" before you do.
Having a full head of hair at any length you prefer is a young person's game, enjoy it while you can.

Look at a pic of James Taylor then and now.....

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I called him a budding porn queen on the tight-fitting-bike-togs thread
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Old 01-05-17, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bulldog1935 View Post
I called him a budding porn queen on the tight-fitting-bike-togs thread
You did??? How in the world did I miss that?

Truth be told, I do love my spandex!

BTW, Bulldog, I do remember locking horns with you in that thread when I first came on this forum. But, you're probably the biggest reason I'm becoming a Fred now! See, I listened to you after all!

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Old 01-05-17, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Freds are fine. What you want to avoid becoming is a poseur.

BOOM! ^^^ This
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Old 01-05-17, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
This is why I called my construction the traditional one. This is the newer and, in my opinion, backwards one.
Agree completely. Most of the contemporary confusion surrounding Fred (the definition of) can be laid at the feet of BSNYC. As far as I know, he appropriated the term to apply it to that category of cyclist defined by Hiro11, as in the image below. Consequently, we now have -- and should use -- two Fredly terms: Fred (as traditionally defined), and NŁFred (BSNYC's re-definition, as used by Hiro11).

I disagree with Hiro11 with respect to the formula 'NŁFred = poseur'. To my way of thinking, a NŁFred may or may not be self-consciously conforming to the 'ideal' of a professional road cyclist (or 'crosser, or XC racer); self-consciousness, i.e. image awareness, is all with the poseur.

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Old 01-05-17, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
Most people posting on BF are Freds when you scratch the surface, so you can interpolate it from there. Some of us take it a step or two further.
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Originally Posted by Scarbo View Post
You did??? How in the world did I miss that?

Truth be told, I do love my spandex!

BTW, Bulldog, I do remember locking horns with you in that thread when I first came on this forum. But, you're probably the biggest reason I'm becoming a Fred now! See, I listened to you after all!
OK, that's it. Scarbo, it is time for you to be made privy to my Song For Fred (the tune is Lorde [to whom abject apologies], Royals):

Iíve never seen a Cervelo in the flesh,
I cut my teeth on mtbs Ö in the ĎShore films
And Iím not proud of my souplesse,
On a banged-up bike, no Rapha envy

But every songís like Tarmac, Venge, disc brakes on your road bike,
Assos, shaved legs, dope in the hotel room,
We donít care Ö weíre riding Surlys in our dreams.
But everybodyís like Garmin, Strava, meters in your crankset,
Carbon, aero, wattage that you output,
We donít care Ö we arenít caught up in your love affair.

And weíll never meet the Rules (rules)
It donít run in our blood,
That kind of luxe just ainít for us,
We crave a different kind of buzz.
Let me be your rouleur (rouleur)
You can call me randonneur
And baby Iíll roule (Iíll roule, Iíll roule, Iíll roule)
Let me live that fantasy.
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"Fred" is unpretentious, unaware of "cycling trends" and not much interested in what others think s/he should ride or wear or how s/he should train .... Fred is "real person really riding a bicycle."

Nothing against people who ride to "train," to exercise, to beat Strava marks, to prove their superiority to others, to test their inner selves .... because we all (almost all) have some of that in us anyway ... but for some of us, it is the bike ride, not the bike. It is time spent riding, not the elapsed time for the distance, the wattage, the amount of time spent in which heart-rate zone ....

Freds are overgrown kids riding bikes like kids used to ... just Riding Bikes. No deeper meaning, no repercussions, no identity reinforcement ... I am a guy, and when I ride, I am a guy on a bike. Call me Fred.

Or if you feel better about it, call me Fredrika---my hair looks like Scarbo's. if you cut it, dude, cut it ... it's just hair. But don't do it for anyone else. I have only cut my hair twice as an adult, and both times for other people, and both times I regret to one extent or another.

Now I am old and it won't grow ... sometimes what you give up you cannot get back.

Boy, I wish belly fat was like that.
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Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
OK, that's it. Scarbo, it is time for you to be made privy to my Song For Fred (the tune is Lorde [to whom abject apologies], Royals):

Iíve never seen a Cervelo in the flesh,
I cut my teeth on mtbs Ö in the ĎShore films
And Iím not proud of my souplesse,
On a banged-up bike, no Rapha envy

But every songís like Tarmac, Venge, disc brakes on your road bike,
Assos, shaved legs, dope in the hotel room,
We donít care Ö weíre riding Surlys in our dreams.
But everybodyís like Garmin, Strava, meters in your crankset,
Carbon, aero, wattage that you output,
We donít care Ö we arenít caught up in your love affair.

And weíll never meet the Rules (rules)
It donít run in our blood,
That kind of luxe just ainít for us,
We crave a different kind of buzz.
Let me be your rouleur (rouleur)
You can call me randonneur
And baby Iíll roule (Iíll roule, Iíll roule, Iíll roule)
Let me live that fantasy.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post

Pfft, that's not Fred. Where is the dork disk and wheel reflectors? And I don't see a kick stand anywhere.
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Greenfield KS3. Passport to Fred-dom.
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Land speed record, motor paced, is held by 'a Fred'. a Dutch one.. World Record Fred Rompelberg, 268 km on the bike

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Rule of thumb: If you can't recognize Fred in a group of cyclists, the Fred is you.
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Rule of thumb: If you can't recognize Fred in a group of cyclists, the Fred is you.
And there are still people you need to explain that to, ha-ha.



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And there are still people you need to explain that to, ha-ha.



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What do you mean by this?
There are times I have been the butt of a joke. And had to have things explained to me.

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