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'02 Colnago Asso. Should I upgrade components?

Old 01-06-17, 11:11 PM
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'02 Colnago Asso. Should I upgrade components?

I recently acquired a near pristine Colnago Asso in Rabobank colors. The original owner I am told was a bike mechanic who built up the frame with a triple Campagnolo Xenon drivetrain and, Shimano Rims, Tiagra Brake Calipers and Mavic Rims. This is the less expensive version of the Dream as the frame is Columbus Altec 2 rather than Airplane. It weighs around 21 pounds due to the Steel street fork, but absorbs the road well. As aluminum has fallen out of favor, is it even worthwhile to upgrade to a Campag 10 or 11-speed compact double and campag rims/wheels ? Looking to you the experts for advice! Thanks
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Old 01-07-17, 04:15 AM
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Old 01-07-17, 04:40 AM
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That is one gorgeous bike. Love the pearl white paint.

Opinions about frame material, as with so many other topics, tend to by cyclical. Fairly or unfairly, carbon fiber has been accumulating a reputation for fragility over the years, and there are those of us who think that aluminum is starting to look like the best practical choice for a high-performance bike frame.

So there's no reason not to consider equipping that frame with a Campagnolo 10- or 11-speed gruppo, especially if you're planning to keep the bike for a long time.
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Old 01-07-17, 04:40 AM
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It is up to you. You have a functional bike that should serve you well.

And, the frame looks nice, and would make a good building platform.

What type of hubs, freehub, and cassette do you have?

It really is up to you. Do you want to treat it like building up a bare frame? I'm running Campy-11 on my C-40, and really enjoy it. The shifters are very comfortable, and work nicely. I'm going to do a C-50 soon, also with Campy 11 (1st gen Super Record). It is a very well made groupset, and looks HOT too.

Currently I'm using Ultegra 6800 brake callipers which work well with the Campy levers.

Anyway, an upgrade can be expensive... perhaps marginal performance gains... but it really is up to you and what you feel is suited to your needs.
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Worthwhile is subjective. If the function is worth it to you, do it. If your goal is to sell the bike, no, you'd never get your money out of it.

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Old 01-07-17, 06:47 AM
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Nice looking bike!

If that is the direction you would like to take the bike, go for it.
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Originally Posted by bulldog1935 View Post
Worthwhile is subjective. If the function is worth it to you, do it. If your goal is to sell the bike, no, you'd never get out money out of it.
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If it was mine there would be a 10 or 11 speed drive train on there asap. Wouldn't matter to me if it was Campy or 105. That bike is gorgeous.
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If it was mine there would be a 10 or 11 speed drive train on there asap. Wouldn't matter to me if it was Campy or 105. That bike is gorgeous.
^this and them bars wouldn't do it for me either.
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So, is this a bike you want to flip, or to ride? You say it absorbs the road well, so I sense you enjoy riding it. If just to ride, then it's up to you.

If to flip, I think it's usually better to let the buyer do the renovation. Could be wrong, but the sales price difference between the gorgeous functional bike as is, and one that has updated equipment is not great enough to offset the many hundreds of dollars for the new components.
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Thanks to everyone for sharing their insight. The bike is certainly functional at the moment even though it has a mix of Shimano and Campy. The key riding drwaback aside from the weight penalty of a steel fork is the triple. My preference has been to ride a compact double which require new rims and hence a comprehensive upgrade. My goal is to enjoy the bike, but trying to keep the total investment below that of a modern Colnago.
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It looks fine the way it's setup now. Nice Bike!
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Originally Posted by porschedave View Post
Thanks to everyone for sharing their insight. The bike is certainly functional at the moment even though it has a mix of Shimano and Campy. The key riding drwaback aside from the weight penalty of a steel fork is the triple. My preference has been to ride a compact double which require new rims and hence a comprehensive upgrade. My goal is to enjoy the bike, but trying to keep the total investment below that of a modern Colnago.
Why would a compact double require changing rims? If your rear wheel has a Campagnolo cassette on it, Any 9,10, or 11 speed Campagnolo cassette will fit
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Old 01-07-17, 10:52 AM
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I was informed, perhaps inaccurately by my LBS that the width tolerances on the Mavic Cosmos rims won't accomodate the Campag 10 speed. I appreciate the tip and will check this out. Thanks
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Originally Posted by porschedave View Post
Thanks to everyone for sharing their insight. The bike is certainly functional at the moment even though it has a mix of Shimano and Campy. The key riding drwaback aside from the weight penalty of a steel fork is the triple. My preference has been to ride a compact double which require new rims and hence a comprehensive upgrade. My goal is to enjoy the bike, but trying to keep the total investment below that of a modern Colnago.
Just keep the fork. Is that a 1" or 1 1/8" stem? It matches the bike well, and you won't reap any benefits from an upgrade.

What are the HUBS (freehub)? Not the rims? I believe Campy 9/10/11 are all compatible. Shimano is supposed to be somewhat problematic with Campy shifters, but they would be 8/9//10 compatible.

Unlike Shimano, I don't think Campagnolo differentiates between double and triple shifters. So you could get away with simply a new front derailleur and crankset.

I like Shimano brakes. In particular, the new models have a ratcheting release lever which can be used for quick tuning of brake issues.
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Appreciate the clarification on the width tolerance. I believe the LBS might have been angling to sell me a new wheelset. Looks like I need a second opinion from someone more objective.
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If it has a Campy freehub, just make sure it has really deep splines.
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Will do. Thanks!
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