rubiksoval

This might be even better!

It comes with a bug shield for maximum eye protection AND aeroness. AND it's black and red! Perfect!!! (though you do lose the super aero tailing/storage unit).

https://cdn.triathloncraft.com/wp-con...2015/06/bh.jpg

rubiksoval

Oh, is that what you think? You have the wrong idea!

I know you get angry and say hurtful things to people in most/all of your threads, but that's not what I do. I give maximum bang for the post count buck.

And helmets are just one of my many areas of expertise. As is fit and aeroness.

decentdrummer91

Got it, I'll keep that in mind next time I think about a starting a thread, and then won't

rekmeyata

All emergency room doctors know the true benefits of people who were admitted to the emergency rooms who were wearing a helmet vs those that do not. End of discussion on the merits of wearing a helmet, you can read this for more: A Buyer's Guide to Bicycle Helmets

As far as what helmet to get, there are hundreds, and probably at least a half of those will work fine. The MIPS thing in regard to road cyclists is still not known, it seems to work for slower MTB riding but there may be some negativity when it comes to higher speeds found in road riding, so the jury is still out. So read this information and make a decision based on what fits your cup of tea: The 16 Best New Helmets of 2016 : Lazer Z1 MIPS | Bicycling And this: The Best Road Bike Helmet | OutdoorGearLab

Any helmet from a cheap Walmart job to the most expensive on the planet will all meet ASTM standards, so the question besides the standards is how long will the helmet last? Low costing helmets use cheap materials that will prevent the helmet from lasting a long time, these are great for kids because they will out grow the helmet. More expensive helmets will be more comfortable, use higher quality components, lighter, more air flow, and more aerodynamic.

decentdrummer91

That did help a lot, thank you very much

decentdrummer91

Good to know, thank you for the info

rubiksoval

Then won't? I don't understand.

So did you like the second helmet? Very cool looking, right?

Milton Keynes

And to be honest, a lot of the local riders I know have them as well, rather than some expensive helmet. The way I see it, no need to spend a lot of money on a helmet which you'll have to replace if you ever crash and bump your head, anyway.

decentdrummer91

Ya exactly I didn't think of that.

rubiksoval

Couldn't you say that about any of your cycling clothing? Or parts on your bike? Or bike itself? Or car?

There's a reason there are cheap things and not so cheap things. Settling for cheap because of potential damage down the road doesn't make a lot of sense. The difference between the helmet retention and fitting system can easily be worth the extra 50 or so bucks due to comfort and fit.

An ill fitting helmet is nearly as helpful as no helmet.

Homebrew01

Give it a rest...... Better yet, don't post in this thread again, thanks.
BF Mod Team.

79pmooney

Yeah, they all make the standard. Further, it is highly likely that a high end racing helmet will be closer to the standard than a lessor helmet since weight and ventilation are the driving marketing forces.

The one aspect the standard doesn't cover is the MIPS technology that several have mentioned that is designed to minimized rotational acceleration of the skull when we hit the side of our helmet on the road with forward speed. It does this by using foam that will slip when inside and outside are driven in different directions.

I crashed a few years ago hitting the road at 20+ mph with the side of my helmet. Felt my helmet ans body scrape along the road. It was notable in that I suffered no concussion at all - this being notable for this guy with a head injury history worthy of an NFL lineman. The other notable fact of that crash was that because my chinstrap was quite loose, the helmet spun and knocked off my glasses. I had cuts from my eyewear beside my eye and clearly starte4d to lose my far ear to the chinstrap.

For me, those cuts were just minor collateral damage. No concussion was a big one. When I read about MIPS two weeks later, it was "I want it!". Took a while but as soon as I found a light colored POC MIPS helmet that fit, I bought it. (Quality comfortable helmets. Not cheap. There are now MIPS helmets well under $100.)

Ben

coominya

Well yes, that's true too. And a lighter motorcycle helmet is better to ride with in that arena I will admit. I just can't percieve much difference between bicycle helmets though. A haircut would make a bigger difference for many riders as far as weight on the head is concerned. I'm talking about average riders here, not just the dedicated ones that shave their legs.

Homebrew01

As with all "contact points" (shoes, saddle, gloves...), fit and comfort are more important than specific brand or model. Perhaps try some on, and pick a favorite or 2. Then do a search to double check for opinions & reviews.

bulldog1935

do you know what modus operandi means?

If you put him on your ignore list you can watch him trolling somebody else - and can choose whether you read it.

On topic, I've been on my helmet 3 times, and can say for sure it's saved my face from severe road rash and my brain from severe trauma.
The wrong impact at 12 mph is enough to kill you.

rekmeyata

Supposedly there are some of the more expensive helmets that will exceed the ASTM standard, thus a cheap helemt will only barely meet the standards and a more expensive one would exceed it...the only problem is there is no way to prove if the helmet actually exceeds the standards, and if some did there is no way to know by how much they exceeded the standard. Marketing from a major helmet make could make claims that their helmets exceed the standard but that in house test could have seen only a 1% improvement over standard helmets then it's basically really no better just a bunch of marketing mumble jumble! But the brands listed in that site I gave earlier generally will have their higher end models doing a better job than lower end models. Some other good brands known for R&D is Smith, Kali, Lazer, and POC; Smith has an interesting liner made of small tubes instead of styrofoam or something similar for impact absorbtion which they claim works better, POC has been around a long time with known safe helmets, their rounded design makes for less head rotation in an accident which is suppose to reduce neck trauma. There is also a new technology coming to the market very slowly called omni directional suspension, so far only one company makes that called 6D and the model is ATB-1T, this technology has been around for years in motorcycle and downhill biking but hasn't caught on with roadies, the court is still out on this as far as effectiveness on a cyclist goes but is proven in the Motorcycle world so this is a very intriguing design. https://gearjunkie.com/6d-atb-1t-ods-helmet

fietsbob

Go to a Bike Shop that sells Helmets , its one of the things they sell..
try them on. in person..

Out where it Snows in the winter, It's a sensible idea to own 2.

Ski-Bike helmets to keep your Head Warm, few air-holes

then for summer one with a Lot of ventilation to let your head stay cooler
lot more ventilation holes .

indyfabz

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Milton Keynes

As has been stated earlier in this thread, all bicycle helmets have to meet certain specifications. It's not the same for cycling clothing, bike parts, or bikes. A car does but that's outside the scope of this discussion.

As long as a cheap bicycle helmet has properly-adjusted straps which hold it in place during a crash, the helmet will do its job. And if a cheap helmet is comfortable enough and fits properly (mine is and does), I see no reason to shell out an extra $50. Especially when you're on a budget like I am. Cheaper doesn't mean ill fitting.

indyfabz

Yep. This summer I was in the shop owned by the guy who built my current custom frame. He's a straight up guy and doesn't try to oversell people. A woman came in looking for a helmet for commuting/errands. He showed her the cheapest model and said it was fine. He also showed her another model that was somewhat more expensive but had a MIPS insert. He went on the explain that the MIPS insert does provide more protection than the base and that all the more expensive models he had had more vents and were lighter and possibly cooler looking but added nothing in the way of additional safety. It was nice to see a merchant be so honest.

Stadjer

No they don't, they just know about people who are admitted to the emergency rooms after falling off their bike and hitting their head. Not falling off is much better, and not hitting your head when falling is also much better than wearing a helmet. Wear a helmet if you want to, and there's no reason to limit it to cycling, but to urge other people to wear imo you should have hard evidence it makes cycling safer and I'm afraid that's lacking. If the question was "I'm going to hit my head on a hard surface with considerable speed, should I wear a helmet? ", I'd agree, but the question is about riding a bike and that doesn't have to and shouldn't lead to hitting your head.

Milton Keynes

But there's always the chance that could happen. Driving a car doesn't have to and shouldn't lead to smashing your melon into the windshield or steering wheel, but it could happen. That's why I always wear a seat belt.

BillyD

Oh boy.

To the OP, for specific recommendations on helmets to buy, do a search in either this the General Cycling forum or in the Road Biking forum.

As for those who wish to discuss the merits and philosophies of helmets, you can join the famous Helmet thread in the Advocacy & Safety forum at no extra charge. But this thread has now lost its footing on the slippery slope and is plunging into the abyss. Farewell.