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Old 01-29-17, 03:20 PM
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Advantages/Disadvantages of wide drops. With Drop ends.

Hey so I have ordered a set of drop bar ends for my hybrid specialised sirrus. Now im thinking of where to put them, should I cut down my bars with a pipe cutter, just put them on the end of where the bar is now, or put them at the oppropriate distance for a normal road bar and leave the extra end on?

Option A: Cut down bars to 40 cm and throw drop ends on.
Option B: Put the drop ends on the end of my bar which is about 60cm long waaaay longer than any drop bars I have seen largest oversized I heard about was 48 cm.
Option c: Put drop ends in the 40 cm position but leave 10cm each side, this would allow me to still do sharp turns but im concerned it might get in the way of me hitting the drops.


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Old 01-29-17, 03:33 PM
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Also which set of bar ends would you reccomend

These
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handleba...ar-ends-black/
Or these
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handleba...ar-ends-black/
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Old 01-29-17, 04:00 PM
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Why wouldn't you just put conventional drop bars ? I didn't even know that they made such a thing as that,,,
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Old 01-29-17, 04:28 PM
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Cost mainly this costs 50.

To do a full conversion would need brifters, new derailers and other things etc.
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Old 01-29-17, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flik9999 View Post
Hey so I have ordered a set of drop bar ends for my hybrid specialised sirrus. Now im thinking of where to put them, should I cut down my bars with a pipe cutter, just put them on the end of where the bar is now, or put them at the oppropriate distance for a normal road bar and leave the extra end on?

Option A: Cut down bars to 40 cm and throw drop ends on.
Option B: Put the drop ends on the end of my bar which is about 60cm long waaaay longer than any drop bars I have seen largest oversized I heard about was 48 cm.
Option c: Put drop ends in the 40 cm position but leave 10cm each side, this would allow me to still do sharp turns but im concerned it might get in the way of me hitting the drops.


https://www.amazon.com/product-revie...owViewpoints=1
I know you already bought the drop bar ends, but as someone who converted their hybrid to drops you probably won't be satisfied w. them.

Flat bar brakes are only accessible in one position whereas drops potentially allow 3 positions if you include top levers.

Drops give the most amount of control for a road bike considering that you have access to your shifting and brakes. With the drop bar ends you lose that accessibility and negate one of the primary benefits of drops.

Now if after all of that you are still committed to the drop bar ends, essentially they should be square to your shoulders in terms of width so I would start there.

As a final warning: I would honestly either stick to pure flats or commit to drop bars. If you post the specs of your Sirrus I could honestly help out.
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I bought some aero V drop levers as well. No idea on bike specs as got it off a friend for free but its the lighest bike I have and will probably perform better than this old 10 speed I have which is at least 12 kg.

Here is the levers I ordered.

Thanks for your advice I will put the drops where my shoulders are. Do you think I should cut the ends off or just have the extra sticking out.

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brake-le...-levers-black/
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Originally Posted by flik9999 View Post
I bought some aero V drop levers as well. No idea on bike specs as got it off a friend for free but its the lighest bike I have and will probably perform better than this old 10 speed I have which is at least 12 kg.

Here is the levers I ordered.

Thanks for your advice I will put the drops where my shoulders are. Do you think I should cut the ends off or just have the extra sticking out.

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brake-le...-levers-black/
I would have the ends cut and plugged if at all possible. If possible could you post pictures of the bike?

Also do you plan on wrapping the drops/ hoods with bar tape? From experience holding on to bare metal even with gloves leaves much to be desired in terms of grip.

Lastly, my suggestion if those brake hoods fit on the drop ends that you just remove the brake connections on the tops (depending on your setup) and leave the tops for shifting and hoods/drops for braking.

As someone who has had weird bike setups this is definitely weird, but I hope it works out for you.
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I am going to strip off all the straight bar stuff except shifters, and then apply bar tape. The levers say they fit on either 22 mm width or 23 mm width so they will fit.

As for the bike its got an 8 speed shifter with 5 cogs on the back (No idea how this happened but my mate gave me a broken bike a while ago and Iv worked on it bit by bit over the months first going single speed then gears etc. )

The fork says alluminium so I think the whole bike is alloy as apposed to having a carbon or steel fork.
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Ok, seems like you got it figured out. Good luck in your endeavor!
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Just wondered if I should keep em wide or make em short like real road bars.

I dont want a real roadie as you cant fit nice thick tyres on them. I run 35mm tyres on the sirrus and it allows nice speed, comfortable curb jumping, hopping between pavement and road etc. On 25mm I wouldnt even want to ride the low quality roads tbh. All semi gravel.
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You may want to re-think cutting your bars down until you read this. The Crust Leather bar is 66.6 cm wide!

Crust Leather Bars

You can also read a mini type review at the Radavist.

Some of what they talk about really makes sense for wider bars.
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Originally Posted by flik9999 View Post
I dont want a real roadie as you cant fit nice thick tyres on them. I run 35mm tyres on the sirrus and it allows nice speed, comfortable curb jumping, hopping between pavement and road etc. On 25mm I wouldnt even want to ride the low quality roads tbh. All semi gravel.
Sounds like you want a 'gravel' or 'cyclocross' bike then. My cyclocross frame has drop bars and can fit up to 44mm tires. The latest crop of gravel bikes can typically fit at least 35mm tires, too, and will have more relaxed geometry than a cyclocross frame in general.

The problem will drop bars on a hybrid frame like the Sirrus is that the 'reach' to the drop bar levers will likely be too long. A flat bar bike will have the reach to the bars optimized for riding on essentially the tops of a drop bar. With a real drop bar in place, you will want the reach optimized for riding on the hoods, or drops. You could fit a really short stem to correct that but you may not like how the bike handles after that change.
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