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Old 02-26-17, 08:28 PM
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Why do some Craigslisters demand calls

Okay so heres my rant. Why do some people on Craigslist arbitrarily require people to call them rather than text them about the goods they are selling?

I tried to buy some cycling goods from an individual who demanded to discuss things over the phone when a text perfectly handled all angles of the transaction, and was rude when I gave him the business on how texting is way better and flexible.

It's 2017. Texting is a superior form of communication for all things that don't absolutely require a phone call. A lot of people have careers that offer very, very little spare time to chit chat and most of those same people have children that require the remainder of their attention. Texting allows you to get the hell on with your business/errands and still communicate with others. But for some reason, folks on Craigslist seem to not understand this.

A lot of them even end up being quite rude about their demands and as a result lose their sale.

What is the big deal? You're trying to sell something. Its not a social club. You don't have to talk on the phone. You just dont. Texting is extremely flexible and after a day of hard work and commuting home to a wife and kids, chores and helping with homework, who has the time to make a needless phone call to buy 50 dollars worth of goods?

Then you have the paranoid morons that say they don't want to meet up with someone they haven't spoken to on the phone to see how they are. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. How can anyone that passed the 4th grade actually believe that hearing someone's voice over the phone will give them any idea of a person's character and honesty? Every serial killer ever was really nice to the person they viciously killed 5 minutes before it happened. Every persons spouse that cheated on them lied straight to their face for years and years before the truth came out. Anybody can lie over the phone with the same shade that they have with a text. If the person's efforts are focused towards robbing/kidnapping/murdering you, no phone conversation is going to reveal that. But nah bro, you can totally determine if this individual is a good person and distinguished contributing member of society by talking to them for 60 seconds about a turbo trainer. Makes sense. Craigslist is a dose of the real world, and notater what you do, you always run some risk of encountering a psycho that's going to kidnap you and harvest your organs. That's the risk you take trying to get a steal on an item rather than buying from the store, and it's your risk to take or not. If you're scared go to church.

If anything, I feel like people that absolutely insist on phone calls do so because they themselves are the shady end of the deal. They don't want to answer questions through text because the answers will turn buyers away because the seller knows himself he is hiding something, and they want to speak with them vocally in an attempt to gauge the person's intelligence and see if they can be BS'd or not. Additionally, if they succeed with their shady deal, they don't want any evidence being laid out via text for law enforcement to use against them in case legal action is brought against them. During my days of flipping cars, I dealt with numerous shady sellers who wouldn't discuss the car over call or text under any circumstance, and demanded that all discussions be in person when they come see the car. They did this not only because they wanted to gauge a person's BS meter and not have any evidence of lies about the vehicle being recorded over text, but they wanted to force the potential buyer to make a time/fuel investment in the deal because they know if they reveal everything about the bum vehicle over text, all the buyers with half a brain will never come through and make that investment, and for good reason, and they will never sell the car.

Has anyone else had this problem?

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Old 02-26-17, 08:35 PM
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Yeah I shy away from those that want you to call them. I'm sure it's a safety thing for the REAL sellers but who knows too what that phone number leads to? Before you know it your phone bill is through the roof. I've emailed a few who only asked for a call and got replies from a few of them. Other than that, their loss.
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1). Not everyone has a text plan or even a cell phone.

2). I can talk with you for 5 minutes, answer any questions and a arrange a meeting place. Or I can spend the next 30 min replying to a text every 5 min.

3). I do text, and I've never done a CL transaction without a phone call. They usually initially text and change to phone to coordinate.
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I prefer calls.
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Originally Posted by likewater View Post
Okay so heres my rant. Why do some people on Craigslist arbitrarily require people to call them rather than text them about the goods they are selling? Has anyone else had this problem?
I notice this too. I had a guy in my area selling a Nishiki I was interested in. Though his ad said "call me", I tried contacting him via email. He never responded and I saw his ad on Craigslist for months. Maybe he eventually sold the bike to a caller, maybe not.

I dislike using the phone and would much rather text or email, so I usually just skip "phone only" ads. There are so many bikes on Craigslist that it's easy to do. Other pet peeves:
  • sellers who post subpar/blurry/minimal pictures
  • sellers who don't post bike sizes
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Old 02-26-17, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gsa103 View Post
1). Not everyone has a text plan or even a cell phone.

2). I can talk with you for 5 minutes, answer any questions and a arrange a meeting place. Or I can spend the next 30 min replying to a text every 5 min.

3). I do text, and I've never done a CL transaction without a phone call. They usually initially text and change to phone to coordinate.
If you have an ad on craigslist, you probably have more than a strictly emergency cell phone, and if so, 99.99999% of phone plans are all inclusive. It's not 2003, there aren't limitations on text messaging and weekend minutes.

Any conversation that can be handled in 5 minutes can be handled over text in the same amount of time, and you can do all of this while working, babysitting the kids, or watching your favorite team score a touchdown.

Can you explain how requiring a phone call helped you determine the persons honesty and morale even though there's absolutely no way to know this unless you can read their mind?

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Originally Posted by 52telecaster View Post
I prefer calls.
Are you retired?
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Originally Posted by mc9000 View Post
  • sellers who post subpar/blurry/minimal pictures
  • sellers who don't post bike sizes
So annoying. Then they refuse to send more detailed pics, and sometimes say they don't know the size of the frame -_____-
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Old 02-26-17, 08:48 PM
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Are you retired?
I am not and I prefer calls.
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Old 02-26-17, 08:50 PM
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I am not and I prefer calls.
Why is that m8
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It's (Craigslist) called direct marketing. The seller is wearing all the hats... advertisement, photography, sales, security, customer service..... etc..

I don't expect the seller to be good at any of those things. And... if I can roll with the inadequacies and see the products value that the seller doesn't have the ability to market well..... then I win.
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Old 02-26-17, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by likewater View Post
Why is that m8
Easier to communicate.
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Old 02-26-17, 08:57 PM
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Easier to communicate.
Negative. You can't catch a large mouth bass and talk on the phone at the same time unless you're Goro.
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I refuse to spend endless amount of texting back and forth about parts/stuff I see in an online ad. I email them once to ask for telephone number and then talk over the phone. If it is worth my time I will make arrangements to view the item in question.
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When I list items on Craigslist for my dad, I put call only. This is because the emails go to my inbox (which I do not want to answer), and he does not know how to reply to texts (flip phone).

At the same time, as a buyer and seller, I prefer text, but don't mind calling if the seller insists. I think some sellers see an actual phone call as the buyer being more serious. If you have ever sold on Craigslist, you'd know that 9/10 people are spammers, low ******s or flakes and they communicate via email or text.
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Originally Posted by likewater View Post
Okay so heres my rant. Why do some people on Craigslist arbitrarily require people to call them rather than text them about the goods they are selling?

I tried to buy some cycling goods from an individual who demanded to discuss things over the phone when a text perfectly handled all angles of the transaction, and was rude when I gave him the business on how texting is way better and flexible.

It's 2017. Texting is a superior form of communication for all things that don't absolutely require a phone call. A lot of people have careers that offer very, very little spare time to chit chat and most of those same people have children that require the remainder of their attention. Texting allows you to get the hell on with your business/errands and still communicate with others. But for some reason, folks on Craigslist seem to not understand this.

A lot of them even end up being quite rude about their demands and as a result lose their sale.

What is the big deal? You're trying to sell something. Its not a social club. You don't have to talk on the phone. You just dont. Texting is extremely flexible and after a day of hard work and commuting home to a wife and kids, chores and helping with homework, who has the time to make a needless phone call to buy 50 dollars worth of goods?

Then you have the paranoid morons that say they don't want to meet up with someone they haven't spoken to on the phone to see how they are. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. How can anyone that passed the 4th grade actually believe that hearing someone's voice over the phone will give them any idea of a person's character and honesty? Every serial killer ever was really nice to the person they viciously killed 5 minutes before it happened. Every persons spouse that cheated on them lied straight to their face for years and years before the truth came out. Anybody can lie over the phone with the same shade that they have with a text. If the person's efforts are focused towards robbing/kidnapping/murdering you, no phone conversation is going to reveal that. But nah bro, you can totally determine if this individual is a good person and distinguished contributing member of society by talking to them for 60 seconds about a turbo trainer. Makes sense. Craigslist is a dose of the real world, and notater what you do, you always run some risk of encountering a psycho that's going to kidnap you and harvest your organs. That's the risk you take trying to get a steal on an item rather than buying from the store, and it's your risk to take or not. If you're scared go to church.

If anything, I feel like people that absolutely insist on phone calls do so because they themselves are the shady end of the deal. They don't want to answer questions through text because the answers will turn buyers away because the seller knows himself he is hiding something, and they want to speak with them vocally in an attempt to gauge the person's intelligence and see if they can be BS'd or not. Additionally, if they succeed with their shady deal, they don't want any evidence being laid out via text for law enforcement to use against them in case legal action is brought against them. During my days of flipping cars, I dealt with numerous shady sellers who wouldn't discuss the car over call or text under any circumstance, and demanded that all discussions be in person when they come see the car. They did this not only because they wanted to gauge a person's BS meter and not have any evidence of lies about the vehicle being recorded over text, but they wanted to force the potential buyer to make a time/fuel investment in the deal because they know if they reveal everything about the bum vehicle over text, all the buyers with half a brain will never come through and make that investment, and for good reason, and they will never sell the car.

Has anyone else had this problem?
No, I don't consider it a problem. Interesting story you got going though.
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No, I don't consider it a problem. Interesting story you got going though.
Thanks britney
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I tried texting Amazon once because I had a question on something they were selling. But I don't think the phone number I found for them accepts texts. Anyway, I never got one back.
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Originally Posted by likewater View Post
Has anyone else had this problem?
Epic rant.

I dont care if someone wants a call. I am not reclusive and still have the skills to carry a conversation so it isnt diffucult for me to type in some numbers and talk.

I prefer text.
Email is, for me, the worst of the 3 options as too many people ignore the emails (or dont get em because they havent figured out how to use email).

I buy and sell a dozen+ bikes each year and persue dozens more.
Calling someone really isn't so painful that i would ever passionatley rant about it.
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Talking on the telephone is a social skill that has fallen by the wayside sadly. I feel pity for those who are unable to use it to get the things they want. I realize texting is more popular today, but that doesn't make it better. You have your preferences, but if you are not flexible you will be disadvantaged in life.
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I prefer calls.
I'm frequently browsing Craigslist at 1:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Epic rant.

I dont care if someone wants a call. I am not reclusive and still have the skills to carry a conversation so it isnt diffucult for me to type in some numbers and talk.

I prefer text.
Email is, for me, the worst of the 3 options as too many people ignore the emails (or dont get em because they havent figured out how to use email).

I buy and sell a dozen+ bikes each year and persue dozens more.
Calling someone really isn't so painful that i would ever passionatley rant about it.
So passionate britney
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Why do some people on Craigslist arbitrarily require people to call them rather than text them about the goods they are selling?
Because that is what some sellers prefer. Their choice.

You don't like it? Don't buy from them. Your choice.

Whatz the problem?
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So annoying. Then they refuse to send more detailed pics, and sometimes say they don't know the size of the frame -_____-
Take your business elsewhere.
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Just move on down the list. If folks just want to be contacted only via a call, they have their good reasons......

When I used to sell on craigslist, I required folks to call or email me back with their number. I had a higher chance of sellout ng the item.

Emails - most frustrating, lots of questions 8 out 10 times will never hear from them again.

Text - A lot better than emails but still a high percentage of no shows or even a thank you.

If you are serious enough to the items I have for sale....let us talk on the phone...otherwise I do not want to waste your time and do not waste mine.
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