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Old 03-01-17, 11:30 AM
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1UP rack strong enough for 55-pound bike?

Hi,
Need to haul around my heavy duty Dutch bike, which is 55-pounds (according to manufacturer).
I added lights, bags, and a bigger saddle, so bike is close to 60 pounds probably.

1UP says their rack is good for up to 50 pounds per bike slot.

Am I risking it by putting 60 pounds on it? That's a 20% exceedance.

Or do you think the manufacturer specs can be safely exceeded by 20%.
Since they probably have a big saftey margins. And I don't plan to drive off-road or anything...maybe just some speed bumps...and roads here are generally pretty smooth...not that much pot holes.

P.s. Had tried a friend's Thule T2, and my Dutch bike was swaying around too much...it was scary...I looked back and thought it was going to fall off on the freeway and cause a massive pileup. The T2 had a 60-pound weight limit, but the wheel holder mechanism is not strong enough. Hoping the 1UP is more stable; it looks a lot stiffer; and looks like the wheel is better secured.

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Dunno, but if that Dutch bike has the traditional fenders on the back, I'd worry they wouldn't work with those tire clamps.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
Dunno, but if that Dutch bike has the traditional fenders on the back, I'd worry they wouldn't work with those tire clamps.
On the Thule, I only clamped the front tire down. The back tire has heavy duty fender. Also a rear rack.

Perhaps, I can modify the 1Up to clamp down over the rear rack.



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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
Hi,
Need to haul around my heavy duty Dutch bike, which is 55-pounds (according to manufacturer).
I added lights, bags, and a bigger saddle, so bike is close to 60 pounds probably.

1UP says their rack is good for up to 50 pounds per bike slot.

Am I risking it by putting 60 pounds on it? That's a 20% exceedance.

Or do you think the manufacturer specs can be safely exceeded by 20%.
Since they probably have a big saftey margins. And I don't plan to drive off-road or anything...maybe just some speed bumps...and roads here are generally pretty smooth...not that much pot holes.

P.s. Had tried a friend's Thule T2, and my Dutch bike was swaying around too much...it was scary...I looked back and thought it was going to fall off on the freeway and cause a massive pileup. The T2 had a 60-pound weight limit, but the wheel holder mechanism is not strong enough. Hoping the 1UP is more stable; it looks a lot stiffer; and looks like the wheel is better secured.
If you choose to exceed the weight limit, and it falls off or breaks, you would be out the bike, the rack and any other potential damages. Did you try contacting 1up directly? Asking if you should exceed the manufacturers recommended weight limit on this forum will do little good. Put a 100 lb bike on there for all most of us care. They make the recommendation on their testing and real life experience. You want to throw that out the window. Your choice.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
On the Thule, I only clamped the front tire down. The back tire has heavy duty fender. Also a rear rack.
Thule appears designed to be a front tire clamp only system. 1-Up does not.

As TenSpeed said, it is probably best you ask the manufacturer. I would feel fine exceeding the weight limit myself (especially if I bought a two bike setup that could hold 100#), but I really wouldn't feel comfortable sticking that thing in that particular rack. If your Thule was wobbly with only one tire retained, when that is how it was designed to be used, imagine what that will do with half the number of supports in place.
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Rent a U-Haul trailer instead.


At My LBS they stock a clamp on top tube for step thru bikes .. to go on most bike racks.

You keep saying the Gazelle is too big and yet still are attached to it
and keep asking about ways to make it act like it fits, which it does not.. I don't get it.





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Old 03-01-17, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Rent a U-Haul trailer instead.
I guess another option is to buy a new bike that is under 50-pound.
I'm leaning toward this option.
I want to haul the bike to group rides on a regular basis.
U-Haul would be way too much troublesome.

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Or get a carrier rack that you know for a fact its going to be good for, say , 100 pounds...

I hope your group is willing to wait for you pulling up the rear on that OMA. Lanterne Rouge.




I noted in Europe, people Often bought trailers instead of buying pickup trucks....




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Old 03-01-17, 05:51 PM
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I got excited when I saw this Thule carrier for heavy electric bikes...65-pound limit...even comes with a ramp for easy load and unloading.
But then saw the price tag...ouch.


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Whether it will or not, I must say the 1Up is by far the best rack I've ever owned.

How far are you planning to "haul it around"?
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55lb bike that is not an E-Bike or dynamo equipped. Oy vey way too heavy, my back hurts just thinking about it. I guess in Dutchistan you can smoke cannabis which can help with pain so lifting a bike like that is ok ; )
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Originally Posted by Dirt Farmer View Post
Whether it will or not, I must say the 1Up is by far the best rack I've ever owned.
Absolutely
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Originally Posted by Dirt Farmer View Post
Whether it will or not, I must say the 1Up is by far the best rack I've ever owned.
How far are you planning to "haul it around"?
30 miles on the Interstate mostly. To downtown for monthly social ride.

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55lb bike that is not an E-Bike or dynamo equipped. Oy vey way too heavy, my back hurts just thinking about it. I guess in Dutchistan you can smoke cannabis which can help with pain so lifting a bike like that is ok ; )
Yeah. Hi-ten frame...large steel wheels...steel handlebars...dynamo lighting...internal gear hub...steel rack...steel rod style brakes...steel saddle post...spring saddle.
I don't even want to try lifting this thing up by myself.
But this bike has made me a much stronger rider.

I highly recommend it...for fitness.

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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
55lb bike that is not an E-Bike or dynamo equipped. Oy vey way too heavy, my back hurts just thinking about it. I guess in Dutchistan you can smoke cannabis which can help with pain so lifting a bike like that is ok ; )
Posts like this always make me chuckle.

Folks who have or claim to have amazing levels of physical fitness, such as being able to average 20 mph, saying a 55lb bike is an insurmountable obstacle.

FWIW, I'm not criticizing you, I'm just making a general observation.
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It just seems that the 55lb steel bike used for anything other than casual city riding to the market or whatever would just drain the fun right out of it. Sure, it can be ridden, but at any speed other than 6mph just seems like it would be miserable. Is that not the case? I don't know, the heaviest bike I have is a fat bike weighing in at 30lbs and it feels like driving a tank as far as speed is concerned. Couldn't imagine another 25 lbs added to it.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
It just seems that the 55lb steel bike used for anything other than casual city riding to the market or whatever would just drain the fun right out of it. Sure, it can be ridden, but at any speed other than 6mph just seems like it would be miserable. Is that not the case? I don't know, the heaviest bike I have is a fat bike weighing in at 30lbs and it feels like driving a tank as far as speed is concerned. Couldn't imagine another 25 lbs added to it.
But the Dutch bikes have big skinny tires 28x1-1/2 inch. They roll very good. Slow accelerate...but once you get up to speed, the momentum carry you very good.

I did a 40 mile charity ride last year...no problem except had to walk up the hills.
Doing it again next month...trying for 60 mile this time.

Luv it. Get to sit up right and see the scenary, instead of being parallel, looking at the pavement all day...or craning your neck.

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Yeah, I've rented the Dutch city bikes in Amsterdam before. They really aren't that bad, especially in flat as a pancake Netherlands. One of these days, I'm planning on going over and bringing one back.

Then again, my daily rider is a 35# Schwinn, maybe I'm just more fit on heavy bikes than the weight weenies
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O.p., I'm just saying... my Bob Yak trailer has a stated weight capacity of 70lbs. most high end single wheel trailers have similar limits, and lower end knock-offs a little less. I never have less than 80lbs. in the Yak and I know that I have gone over 100lbs on occasion. I am certain that a Thule or Yakima rack could handle a 20lbs. overlimit void of warranty, and a lesser rack should handle 10lbs over with no trouble. But don't expect the average anonymous internet poster to tell you this. I am not the average anonymous internet poster. Do with this information what you will. I must, however, wonder out loud why someone buys a utility bike with the expectation that it will see time in a rack carrier.
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I don't know what kind of car you have, but by removing the front wheel and spreading an old blanket over the rear seat and front seatbacks I was able to fit each of my bikes standing up between the front and rear seats in my 2001 Subaru Legacy sedan. Even though I had a trunk mount rack.

A month after my last bike purchase in 2015 I bought an SUV and now just throw the bikes in the b ack with the seats down.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
It just seems that the 55lb steel bike used for anything other than casual city riding to the market or whatever would just drain the fun right out of it. Sure, it can be ridden, but at any speed other than 6mph just seems like it would be miserable. Is that not the case? I don't know, the heaviest bike I have is a fat bike weighing in at 30lbs and it feels like driving a tank as far as speed is concerned. Couldn't imagine another 25 lbs added to it.
There's a 35 lb difference between my heaviest and lightest bike, but the difference in average speed between them as measured by computer over many weeks is only 1.8 mph. Theory and practice are 2 different things.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
It just seems that the 55lb steel bike used for anything other than casual city riding to the market or whatever would just drain the fun right out of it. Sure, it can be ridden, but at any speed other than 6mph just seems like it would be miserable. Is that not the case? I don't know, the heaviest bike I have is a fat bike weighing in at 30lbs and it feels like driving a tank as far as speed is concerned. Couldn't imagine another 25 lbs added to it.
I once rode my 1937 Raleigh Tourist (similar to the Dutch bike described before) to Salem and back (a 40+ mile round trip), and according to RideWithGPS, my average speed was 14.8mph. A decent section of my route was a gravel bike path, too.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
30 miles on the Interstate mostly. To downtown for monthly social ride.



Yeah. Hi-ten frame...large steel wheels...steel handlebars...dynamo lighting...internal gear hub...steel rack...steel rod style brakes...steel saddle post...spring saddle.
I don't even want to try lifting this thing up by myself.
But this bike has made me a much stronger rider.

I highly recommend it...for fitness.
I guess the angle of the picture makes the front hub look smaller? Or is it a bottle dynamo?

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Posts like this always make me chuckle.

Folks who have or claim to have amazing levels of physical fitness, such as being able to average 20 mph, saying a 55lb bike is an insurmountable obstacle.

FWIW, I'm not criticizing you, I'm just making a general observation.
I would agree but still riding a boat anchor with wheels is crazy. Though I am not in great fitness and don't ride particularly fast. Though I am hoping to work up to it.

Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
But the Dutch bikes have big skinny tires 28x1-1/2 inch.
Friggin 700b tires gaaaah! Had to deal with that quite recently and it was such a pain, we got lucky on tires for some odd reason the previous manager or someone before him had bought them but finding a tube was more difficult.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
I guess the angle of the picture makes the front hub look smaller? Or is it a bottle dynamo?

I would agree but still riding a boat anchor with wheels is crazy. Though I am not in great fitness and don't ride particularly fast. Though I am hoping to work up to it.

Friggin 700b tires gaaaah! Had to deal with that quite recently and it was such a pain, we got lucky on tires for some odd reason the previous manager or someone before him had bought them but finding a tube was more difficult.
Yes, bottle dynamo.

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Friggin 700b tires gaaaah! Had to deal with that quite recently and it was such a pain, we got lucky on tires for some odd reason the previous manager or someone before him had bought them but finding a tube was more difficult.
Standard 700c tubes work fine, and are what Schwalbe spec for their 700b tires.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
Yes, bottle dynamo.
Ahhh that is why I couldn't see it. I am surprised they are still made...when I talk about dynamo set ups that is what people think of and I have to explain the new stuff.

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Standard 700c tubes work fine, and are what Schwalbe spec for their 700b tires.
The issue with that was finding one that properly fit. I was thinking a 29'r because of the larger size of 700b but we ended up settling on a 700x35-43c and I hope that worked for the guy.
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