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Old 03-13-17, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NYMXer View Post
For reasons discussed in the replies here, I think everyone should try mtb riding. There are a lot of skills learned via mtb riding that would help a roadie,
Definitely. The best motorcyclists I have ever met started out on enduro/trials bikes. When you flog around in the bush, in the dirt, you learn the true limits of a bike. How far it can lean before you washout and the warnings you often get, how to recover in a slide, how to put the front wheel back down. The best aspect of all this is it gives you a lot more confidence on the road among the cars.
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Old 03-13-17, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dabac View Post
There's power - as in watts - and there is force - as in how hard you push.
They're not the same.
Power, as in watts is calculated using force (how hard you push) multiplied by velocity.


They are the same unless you push with the brakes on.
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Old 03-13-17, 11:16 AM
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IMO a person that sits pretty much at a level of the crank on a recumbent bike can probably exert more power. Even standing a cyclist can only exert his weight, plus what force he can add by pulling up on the handle bars. On a bent he can apply power greater than his weight by wedging his leg between the pedal and the back of his seat. Pretty much like sitting on the floor and pushing against a refrigerator to move it.
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Old 03-13-17, 11:32 AM
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Here's my two cents.
I stand while climbing when using my hybrid or road bike, but I prefer the flat bars when standing. I think it's because they feel more stable as they are a little wider. I never ride in the drops and most people I see are seldom in the drops. The aerodynamic advantage is only when you're in the drops.
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Old 03-13-17, 11:58 AM
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I hate it when people say that standing on the pedals "uses gravity" to climb. While I know what they're trying to say, using gravity to go against gravity is nonsense. Nothing is for free, you have to raise your body up before you can use its weight to help push the pedals down.
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It makes little difference as to your positioning if the force is the same and after that it's gearing.
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Old 03-13-17, 11:42 PM
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i have two varsities and they came with drop bars With the hills around here they were useless IT was when I took them off and put on cruiser bars were I am siting up and have WAY more power going up hills Today for the life of me I do not under stand the drop bar thing every biker I ask that has them tell me they HATE THEM
I also found that I am way faster in the up right
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Old 03-13-17, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stingray66 View Post
i have two varsities and they came with drop bars With the hills around here they were useless IT was when I took them off and put on cruiser bars were I am siting up and have WAY more power going up hills Today for the life of me I do not under stand the drop bar thing every biker I ask that has them tell me they HATE THEM
I also found that I am way faster in the up right
You can put me down as the first to tell you that I prefer drop bars. I have a bike with flat bars and a bike with drop bars. The flat bar bike is OK for fooling around down at the beach but serious riding has to be done with drop bars.
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Old 03-14-17, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by stingray66 View Post
i have two varsities and they came with drop bars With the hills around here they were useless IT was when I took them off and put on cruiser bars were I am siting up and have WAY more power going up hills Today for the life of me I do not under stand the drop bar thing every biker I ask that has them tell me they HATE THEM
I also found that I am way faster in the up right
Right.

Well ... guess what ... I just did a 100 km ride on the weekend with flat bars. I'll be changing them to bullhorn bars or drop bars.

I like drop bars.

So while "bikers" might not like drop bars, "cyclists" do like them.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
IMO a person that sits pretty much at a level of the crank on a recumbent bike can probably exert more power. Even standing a cyclist can only exert his weight, plus what force he can add by pulling up on the handle bars. On a bent he can apply power greater than his weight by wedging his leg between the pedal and the back of his seat. Pretty much like sitting on the floor and pushing against a refrigerator to move it.
Those who ride both styles of bikes with power meters would disagree with you. There's more to producing power than how much force can be exerted.
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Old 03-14-17, 03:54 AM
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When I see the road cyclist climbing hills, It reminds me of the last salmon run a salmon makes lol. Gotta get to the top quicker than the rest of em. That stuff is a little too cumbersome for me lol. Ill stay in the lake where its safe lol
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Old 03-14-17, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EnjoyinTheRide View Post
When I see the road cyclist climbing hills, It reminds me of the last salmon run a salmon makes lol. Gotta get to the top quicker than the rest of em. That stuff is a little too cumbersome for me lol. Ill stay in the lake where its safe lol
Best not try to taste that fly skipping on the surface.
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Old 03-14-17, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by stingray66 View Post
i have two varsities and they came with drop bars With the hills around here they were useless IT was when I took them off and put on cruiser bars were I am siting up and have WAY more power going up hills Today for the life of me I do not under stand the drop bar thing every biker I ask that has them tell me they HATE THEM
I also found that I am way faster in the up right
Good for you. What ever floats your boat to make things right for you.
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