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Old 03-19-17, 11:46 AM
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I am a MTBer and our local trails are intense, kind of like interval training. Also, in general I am careful about what I eat. I have a soft spot for sausage egg mcmuffins, and this is one of only two circumstances I will tend to eat them in. So, it is not really about prepping for the ride, but knowing I will burn it off, and then some. I do take jelly beans and goo with me, just in case I start to gas during the ride.
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Originally Posted by evan326 View Post
Ever think that six cups of coffee may add to your nervous stomach?
Definitely not, if I eat before a ride, I get intestinal cramps and need to sometimes find a bathroom within seconds, so... it is easier not to eat until after the ride, or strenuous workout.

I drink 2 regular sized cups but the marks on the coffee pot shows that it is 6. I can't drink 6 actual cups!

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Old 03-19-17, 02:14 PM
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Daily ride: banana.

Saturday 60+ mile ride: 3 egg omelet no cheese, home fries, toast, Gatorade, and banana.
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Old 03-19-17, 02:36 PM
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Great effort! You go girl.
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Originally Posted by nicetry View Post
It's extremely hard for someone who is overweight to lose weight if they eat carby things much less one of those energy gels.

Those are for skinny people.

And yet I managed to lose 55 lbs eating mostly carbs.


It's all about the calories. Eat fewer calories than you burn, and you'll lose weight.

Those energy gels (which you really only need in the last half of a long ride) are only 100 calories. If you burn more than 100 calories, you've burned it off.
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Old 03-19-17, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
And yet I managed to lose 55 lbs eating mostly carbs.


It's all about the calories. Eat fewer calories than you burn, and you'll lose weight.

Those energy gels (which you really only need in the last half of a long ride) are only 100 calories. If you burn more than 100 calories, you've burned it off.
I agree with you, and so does the research. However, losing weight and getting healthy are not equal, but can be through eating less, but eating good foods.
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Old 03-19-17, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kindaslow View Post
I agree with you, and so does the research. However, losing weight and getting healthy are not equal, but can be through eating less, but eating good foods.
Happily, a mostly-carb diet consists largely of things like vegetables, fruit, and whole grains ... all of which are good foods.
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Old 03-19-17, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kindaslow View Post
I agree with you, and so does the research. However, losing weight and getting healthy are not equal, but can be through eating less, but eating good foods.
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And yet I managed to lose 55 lbs eating mostly carbs.


It's all about the calories. Eat fewer calories than you burn, and you'll lose weight.

Those energy gels (which you really only need in the last half of a long ride) are only 100 calories. If you burn more than 100 calories, you've burned it off.
And yet keto makes it easier to burn calories, and lose more weight.

You burn much more throughout the day than a carb based diet.

And you aren't as hungry because your body is constantly fed by stored fat.

Depending on certain factors, it's not as simple as calories in and calories out. When your body is used to carbs, it doesn't want to burn fat because it feels it's well supplied with carbs so why give up fat. When you get your body used to burning fat for energy it's easier to tap into stores. Look up keto and why it's easier to lose weight by doing it.

Research shows all of this.


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Old 03-19-17, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nicetry View Post
And yet keto makes it easier to burn calories, and lose more weight.

You burn much more throughout the day than a carb based diet.

And you aren't as hungry because your body is constantly fed by stored fat.

Depending on certain factors, it's not as simple as calories in and calories out. When your body is used to carbs, it doesn't want to burn fat because it feels it's well supplied with carbs so why give up fat. When you get your body used to burning fat for energy it's easier to tap into stores. Look up keto and why it's easier to lose weight by doing it.

Research shows all of this.

Well ... no. It is 100% calories in calories out. Physics.

However, it is a matter of accomplishing calories in calories out in a way that works for you.

When I decided to lose weight, I decided to eat only foods I liked. That worked very well for me. As it happens, I like a collection of foods that lean a bit toward vegetarian. What I eat is enjoyable and sustainable ... for me.

It also means I can do the type of cycling I enjoy.



Now regarding pre-workout food ... what kind of rides are you doing? If you're cycling for an hour or so after work, you probably don't need anything special at all ... before or after the ride. If you're cycling longer, then you might need to eat something before you go out.
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Old 03-19-17, 07:09 PM
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Another vote for nothing.

However, most of my rides do not exceed four hours
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Old 03-19-17, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
Well ... no. It is 100% calories in calories out. Physics.

However, it is a matter of accomplishing calories in calories out in a way that works for you.

When I decided to lose weight, I decided to eat only foods I liked. That worked very well for me. As it happens, I like a collection of foods that lean a bit toward vegetarian. What I eat is enjoyable and sustainable ... for me.

It also means I can do the type of cycling I enjoy.



Now regarding pre-workout food ... what kind of rides are you doing? If you're cycling for an hour or so after work, you probably don't need anything special at all ... before or after the ride. If you're cycling longer, then you might need to eat something before you go out.
Nope. Look up keto.

Not all calories are created equal, and calories do not change glycogen vs ketone bodies.

The fact is, if you're skinny, eat all the carbs you want.

If you're obese and want to lose weight, carbs will make you hit the wall and make it difficult to tap into fat stores.

When you use fat for energy, your body feels like it can afford to give up fat.

If what you say is true, you could eat nothing but candy and make sure you're in a caloric deficit and you'd lose weight. This is not true.

I only have my coffee with the coconut oil and powders, or sometimes for a long ride I'll take black olives with me.

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Old 03-19-17, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nicetry View Post
Nope. Look up keto.

Not all calories are created equal, and calories do not change glycogen vs ketone bodies.

The fact is, if you're skinny, eat all the carbs you want.

If you're obese and want to lose weight, carbs will make you hit the wall and make it difficult to tap into fat stores.

When you use fat for energy, your body feels like it can afford to give up fat.

If what you say is true, you could eat nothing but candy and make sure you're in a caloric deficit and you'd lose weight. This is not true.

I only have my coffee with the coconut oil and powders, or sometimes for a long ride I'll take black olives with me.
They have proven the calorie issue via diets with twinkies and Doritos in set calories per day, also with only potatoes. Neither approach is go long term though. I even had a friend that would go on Snickers diets and lose weight. Keto does work for many, but if it were the answer everyone would be doing it.

We can trade more replies, but honestly it would be waste of time.
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Originally Posted by Kindaslow View Post
They have proven the calorie issue via diets with twinkies and Doritos in set calories per day, also with only potatoes. Neither approach is go long term though. I even had a friend that would go on Snickers diets and lose weight. Keto does work for many, but if it were the answer everyone would be doing it.

We can trade more replies, but honestly it would be waste of time.
Nobody asked ya

If snickers diets worked everyone would be doing it
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Old 03-19-17, 07:45 PM
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Nobody asked ya

If snickers diets worked everyone would be doing it
You quoted me above and brought me into the discussion. Please keep this cordial, with all members. We do not have to agree, and that is ok.

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Old 03-19-17, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kindaslow View Post
You quoted me above and brought me into the discussion. Please keep this cordial, with all members. We do not have to agree, and that is ok.

Kindaslow, mod
Actually you brought yourself into MY discussion in MY thread.

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The Atkins diet is a form of the ketogenic diet. It seems like a strange way to lose weight but it absolutely works. You have to eat nearly zero carbs. All of your energy comes from fat. The fat can be from your diet or your fat stores on your own body.
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Banana + water
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Old 03-19-17, 10:10 PM
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Nothing. Even before long rides. I don't generally start to get any desire to eat until around mile 50. My typical everyday rides are 35-40 miles, I don't even bring a bar with me.
This.
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Organic water.
Isn't water inorganic?

It doesn't contain carbon, after all.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Nothing. Even before long rides. I don't generally start to get any desire to eat until around mile 50. My typical everyday rides are 35-40 miles, I don't even bring a bar with me.
Exactly.

You're already hauling around thousands of calories of energy as fat and glycogen stores.
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Originally Posted by Kindaslow View Post
They have proven the calorie issue via diets with twinkies and Doritos in set calories per day, also with only potatoes. Neither approach is go long term though. I even had a friend that would go on Snickers diets and lose weight. Keto does work for many, but if it were the answer everyone would be doing it.

We can trade more replies, but honestly it would be waste of time.
+1


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Exactly.

You're already hauling around thousands of calories of energy as fat and glycogen stores.
+1

On rides under about 2 hours, you don't need anything in addition to what you'd normally eat. Bring a granola bar or something just in case, but you probably won't need it.

On rides between about 2 and 4 hours, you might want to think about consuming roughly 100 cal/hour.

On rides over 4 hours, you might think about consuming roughly 200 cal/hour.

On rides over about 8 hours, you might also want to think about having lunch in the middle of the ride, in addition to the 200 cal/hour.


What you eat is up to you and you might need to do some experimentation to see what works.
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Old 03-20-17, 03:03 AM
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Porridge with sliced banana and syrup, simple but does the job for me
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Thread went way off topic.

Calorie counting never worked well for me nor my overall health. I am in better shape with less effort than I was in college playing football. Paleo primal style does. TONS of nutrients from an absurd amount of veggies, meats, and quality fats.

We also need to be cognizant of the fact that people's bodies are different and not all things work for all people. Genetics has its say in ideal diet and health to an extent as well.
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Some people (like me) can go out "fasted" on an empty stomach and pump out a good 2 hour ride, while others need some nutrition first.
I'm not sure what separates the need but suspect that fat reserves, or being lean might be part of it.
For once, having a little extra weight has it's benefits, haha
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