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Old 03-29-17, 11:29 PM
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Reason for fenders besides water deflection?

Is there any functional reason to put fenders on a bike other than deflecting water?
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I first began using fenders due to all the goose crap in the NW suburbs of Chicago.
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To reduce the amount of time spent post-ride detailing a bike? To keep from spraying riding partners?
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Fenders keep you, your clothes, your bike and your drive chain cleaner year 'round. Rear fenders are the best place on the bike to put lights and reflectors if you want to be seen. And if you use highly visible fenders, they in themselves are far more visible than any paint job. (Sadly, the fender manufacturers have a thing against providing us with performance bikes with appropriate narrow fenders in those colors.)

If none of that matters to you, leave them off. (I have a bike that has fenders always, two with fenders nearly year 'round and two where taking them on and off takes minutes. Two bikes over 50 years that never had fenders.

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If you tend to hang bags on the bar or ride in coats, fenders offer some protection against dangly stuff getting caught between wheel and frame/fork. A front fender with a tall mud flap will keep the cast-off from the front wheel from hitting the chain and crankset.
It'll keep your feet drier and cleaner too. But chains wear faster when dirty than shoes do.
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It's not so much the water as the mud and crud it carries.

So, while the answer to your question is basically NO, the benefits are more than staying clean and dry. Reducing the amount of crud sprayed onto your bike can improve the life of things like your chain and sprockets, protect a leather saddle, etc.
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A rear fender makes a bike more aerodynamic.

The front fender would too, if it was as long as a rear fender.
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Yes. They add to the Fred look.
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Originally Posted by ijsbrand
A rear fender makes a bike more aerodynamic.

The front fender would too, if it was as long as a rear fender.
i think that's doubtful if you're using decent wheels and tires.
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They look cool? I like the look of them, the chrome ones compliment the paint job. Just my thought, YMMV.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
Yes. They add to the Fred look.
Velominati ? The Rules

Most freds hang it up if the weather is not 70+ and sunny.
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Originally Posted by Robert P
Is there any functional reason to put fenders on a bike other than deflecting water?
They also deflect, mud, sand, oil, and animal poop of all flavors and species.

And on some bikes they look really good.
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They keep car bike rack designers on their toes.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
I first began using fenders due to all the goose crap in the NW suburbs of Chicago.
Ha! Having grown up in the N and NW burbs, this gave me a smile. Hilariously true.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Velominati ? The Rules

Most freds hang it up if the weather is not 70+ and sunny.
The only worse thing about internet cycling than the term 'fred' having 2 totally different definitions is the existence of those rules, which some think are actually legitimate.
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I'm going to be Dutch here and say it makes your bike look more like a rusty beater.
That or because you enjoy arriving everywhere with a ****-brown stain on your back.

Most bikes around here without fenders are either:
- Road (racing) bikes
- Mountain bikes
- Stationsfietsen (beater bikes that get used to get from home tot the train station)
- Fixies

Everyone that uses their bike on a regular basis (aka not just when the weather is nice) usually has fenders.
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Many fenders look cool on certain bikes. I love those hammered fenders, for example; and have a set on one of my old steel bikes.

Water deflection is enough, though. A cold, wet butt is no fun.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
The only worse thing about internet cycling than the term 'fred' having 2 totally different definitions is the existence of those rules, which some think are actually legitimate.

Exactly. The original Fred's ride in all sorts of weather, and couldn't care less about approved or non-approved equipment... or any rules. The later definition Fred's are actually more poser.
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I am ofendered!
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No, but that is really all the reason you need. Especially as others have mentioned, when travelling on anything but a pristine clean road, that road spray contains tons of gunk, let alone any dirt road that will cover you in mud. Any riding partners will appreciate not having the road spray in their face, too. My fiancee told me in no uncertain terms that fenders were being put on the bikes after the first day riding in the rain on our first tour, and early the next morning we were at the LBS buying them.
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Originally Posted by ijsbrand
A rear fender makes a bike more aerodynamic.

The front fender would too, if it was as long as a rear fender.
Originally Posted by gregf83
i think that's doubtful if you're using decent wheels and tires.
No, it's true. If the FIA would let then, F1 cars would have full fenders. Because remember, the top of the tire is moving at 2x the ground speed, as well as spinning in the direction opposite the airflow.

...which is not to say any fender would reduce the drag coefficient, or even change it at all. As with other things, the big bag of meat plopped atop the bike is the greatest source of aerodynamic drag by orders of magnitude. Just imagine how fast bikes could be without us.
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Here in the northwest we have giant slugs, they can be on MUT's, and narrow roads in large numbers at certain times of year.....
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Here in the northwest we have giant slugs, they can be on MUT's, and narrow roads in large numbers at certain times of year.....
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Here in the northwest we have giant slugs, they can be on MUT's, and narrow roads in large numbers at certain times of year.....

That's why God made salt.
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