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Old 04-09-17, 05:09 AM
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New bike opinion

It's time for a new bike maybe. I wanted my next bike to have disc brakes, thru Axels, and electronic shifting. However. My LBS is closing out all their cannondales. They have a 2014 evo black inc for way cheap. It no longer has enve wheels and has seam red mechanical. It's dirt cheap and I am thinking about getting tomorrow. I need opinions. Should I hold out for disc? I live in Michigan and I don't really race.
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Old 04-09-17, 05:46 AM
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Just because something is a good price doesn't mean you should buy it. For me in the decision process making, it goes: the bike first, the price second. Final step is making the decision. You appear to be doing it the other way, price first, bike second, then now your decision.

The Cannondale doesn't have what you want, so go buy something you want.
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Old 04-09-17, 06:20 AM
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What's important to you? If you save a few hundred on the Cannondale, will you spend the next several years pining for thru axles and electronic shifters? OTOH, if you find a Cannondale that's a good fit and that you really enjoy riding, you won't look back.
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Old 04-09-17, 06:28 AM
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Buy the Cannondale, ride it and enjoy it, while saving up to buy a bike with electronic shifting and sic brakes next year.
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Old 04-09-17, 06:47 AM
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Buy what you want the first time. You'll save time and money and drooling
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Old 04-09-17, 07:05 AM
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If it's really on huge discount, you won't be taking as huge of a loss if/when you resell it. I'd consider looking at it as a not too expensive way to see how much I like the bike. And who knows, maybe you'll end up happy and find out you didn't need the other junk after all.
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Old 04-09-17, 07:15 AM
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If you really like it, and if it fits you well, and if it is a great deal, then buy it.

Otherwise, just wait and look.
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Old 04-09-17, 07:24 AM
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I've done this in the past and have ultimately regretted it. Settling for something else based on price leaves an underlying desire for more.
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Old 04-09-17, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bclawrence View Post
It's time for a new bike maybe. I wanted my next bike to have disc brakes, thru Axels, and electronic shifting. However. My LBS is closing out all their cannondales. They have a 2014 evo black inc for way cheap. It no longer has enve wheels and has seam red mechanical. It's dirt cheap and I am thinking about getting tomorrow. I need opinions. Should I hold out for disc? I live in Michigan and I don't really race.
Test Ride it.

If it Fits, buy It.

Post some pics.
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Old 04-09-17, 10:11 AM
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How cheap is dirt cheap?

For me, something I can "settle for" generally has to be in the neighborhood of 70% off regular retail price (not list price) or better . Something I actually want? Probably 40% off is what I'd consider dirt cheap. I.e., my definition changes based on how likely I was to buy it to begin with.

As others have said, if you are settling and it isn't all that great of a deal, you'll end up regretting it.
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Old 04-09-17, 11:43 AM
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I am sort of thinking you don't miss what you don't have. Or at least convincing myself with that thinking. The bike is $3500. It's a great deal to me. It is my size. I can always switch to red etap in future. I could not afford a bike of this quality at regular price. And could probably no afford my wish list right now either.
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Old 04-09-17, 12:15 PM
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Personally I would be ok with a bike not having the exact components I was looking for (groupset, wheels) but if disc brakes are important to you than I would not settle for a non-disc frame because you can never change that.

I wanted disc when I bought my Synapse but I came very close to purchasing a used non-disc EVO on CL because it was such a great deal. I have had no regrets. I still got my bike on discount and only needed to upgrade the wheels to make it what I wanted. To me, disc brakes are VERY nice to have and the Di2 hydro groupset functions like a dream.
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Old 04-09-17, 01:14 PM
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Yes I think I will wait. As hard as it is. I have a madone now and might just upgrade a few things.
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Old 04-09-17, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bclawrence View Post
I am sort of thinking you don't miss what you don't have. Or at least convincing myself with that thinking. The bike is $3500. It's a great deal to me. It is my size. I can always switch to red etap in future. I could not afford a bike of this quality at regular price. And could probably no afford my wish list right now either.
if yiou are looking at spending $3-4 k .... unless that is chump change to you ....

The Evo Black strikes me as being overpriced at $13 K .... a great deal at 3500---IF you want a full-on race bike.

So $3500 is great but not a huge deal because the original asking price is (IMO) ridiculous.

if someone is selling an F1 car for the same as a Corvette and you were shopping for Corvettes ... you could, for the same money as a ZR1, own ... a Car You Couldn't Really Use!

Of course the Evo is not that dramatic a bike ... it is just a full-on race bike. If you don't plan to use it ... buy it and sell it for $5 grand.

If I wanted a race bike with discs ... i'd forget the discs and get the Evo.

If I wanted a slightly more relaxed bike that I might ride for centuries, in all weather, on a variety of roads ... I might want a bike which fit 28 mm rubber and had discs, and if you are going to get discs you almost have to gt through axles unless you never plan to remove a wheel, ever.

Buy the Evo and sell it for $5 grand. Buy the Evo, ride it for a season, and sell it for $3 grand. or, if a full-on race bike is what you want---or it will make you happy---buy it and keep it.

It is a tough choice but i think and I hope that if i could buy pretty much what I wanted i would buy what I wanted, not whatever flashy distraction rolled by. The Evo is just an expensive bike---which does not translate necessarily into "the right bike for you."
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Old 04-09-17, 01:52 PM
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Buy the Cannondale, and use the money you saved and buy yourself a dictionary.....
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Old 04-09-17, 02:04 PM
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Buy the Cannondale, and use the money you saved and buy yourself a dictionary.....
WElll thits was un call far.
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Old 04-09-17, 05:12 PM
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I've done this in the past and have ultimately regretted it. Settling for something else based on price leaves an underlying desire for more.
Been there done that but then again the op did say dirt cheap whatever that amount is.

First thought is I have never been on a ride and thought my rim brakes were not good enough and disc were mandatory.
Second thought is if I were buying an adventure gravel bike hydraulic disc would be mandatory as well as through axles.

I have electronic shifting and it's awesome and the bikes that have it are pricey so the small price increase at that level for disc isn't a big deal so why not. If the dirt cheap bike isn't going to leave a yearning in your heart for the missing features go for it but I suspect it probably will. The so called "settle for" bike is pretty nice though.
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Old 04-10-17, 02:57 AM
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I am not really looking for a gravel bike specifically. I like the race oriented frames with discs. I have been looking at giant tcr and the bmc road machine is really nice but more money. I live in Michigan. So bad weather is always a possibility and very once in awhile will hit a dirt road.
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Old 04-10-17, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bclawrence View Post
I like the race oriented frames with discs.
And, you are willing to spend $4-$5 grand .... so go buy what you like.

The only value to the Cannondale is turnaround value---buy it and flip it, sell it for more than you paid. The bike itself holds no value for you since it is simply and clearly not what you want.

Easiest solution is to ride it for a season and sell it for $3000. Best of both worlds. And no need to wonder "What if ... "
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If I knew with certainty that I'd be riding in bad weather (continuous rain, sleet, snow), then I'd want disc brakes for sure. But I wouldn't want them on a racing bike, they'd be on a bike that could also handle wide tires and full fenders. So, there lies the dichotomy. Is this a racing bike, or is this a foul weather riding bike? Those are two different things, and I can see the choice hinging on what exactly you intend to do with this bike. Good luck.


As for electronic shifting, that's really a "nice to have" unless you are a competitive racer. And then, it's still only a "nice to have" feature.
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I'd be all over that Evo Black at that price...if it fits your needs. It sounds like you may not be certain exactly what you are looking for. Disc brakes and E shifting are kinda cool tech goodies but don't deliver real world riding advantages most people will ever realize.
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