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Old 04-12-17, 07:33 AM
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Good Options for a Hybrid?

Primary use will be a 1.2 mile each way trip to the gym in the morning, the road has sidewalks the whole way as well.

Secondary use might include some trails.

Looking for recs on the best basic hybrid. I'm somewhat partial to Specialized, but open to ideas.
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Old 04-12-17, 08:00 AM
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Based on your needs, I don't think it will make much difference what bike you get. Get an inexpensive bike and as you feel the desire to expand your biking, consider upgrading to a better bike. What you upgrade to will depend on what kind of riding you discover that you want to do.
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I just added a Trek Duel Sport 4 to my stable for the similar reasons.
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With such a short distance to ride, pretty much any bike will do. Pick one you like and that's comfortable. I wouldn't get too caught up on the brand name. Specialized is good, but so are other brands like Cannondale, Felt, Giant, Jamis, Trek, etc. There are lots and lots of good bikes out there, so don't limit your options. I'd suggest the shop should be at least as big a factor in your purchasing decision as the brand of the bike. If you can find a shop you like and trust, who gives you a fair deal and treats you well after the sale, that should give you more satisfaction than the name on the bike's frame.

As for sidewalks, since you mention them... Riding on sidewalks isn't legal in many places. You may want to check your local laws. Legality aside, there are studies that suggest the street is safer than sidewalks anyway and my experience leads me to agree. It makes sense when you consider visibility and predictability. For one example, let's say you're approaching an intersection you're going to go straight through and a car is approaching you from behind, preparing to turn right. In the street, the driver's likely to see you and should allow you to clear the intersection before they turn. If you're on the sidewalk, though, the driver's probably not going to see you as you approach the intersection. The car could potentially turn right without expecting you to come rolling off the sidewalk faster than a pedestrian would. Driveways are another common source of sidewalk accidents. If a car pulls out of a blind driveway in front of you, you may not have time to react if you're on the sidewalk. But you determine what's legal and practical for you, and enjoy the ride either way!
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Originally Posted by SkyDog75 View Post
With such a short distance to ride, pretty much any bike will do. Pick one you like and that's comfortable. I wouldn't get too caught up on the brand name. Specialized is good, but so are other brands like Cannondale, Felt, Giant, Jamis, Trek, etc. There are lots and lots of good bikes out there, so don't limit your options. I'd suggest the shop should be at least as big a factor in your purchasing decision as the brand of the bike. If you can find a shop you like and trust, who gives you a fair deal and treats you well after the sale, that should give you more satisfaction than the name on the bike's frame.

As for sidewalks, since you mention them... Riding on sidewalks isn't legal in many places. You may want to check your local laws. Legality aside, there are studies that suggest the street is safer than sidewalks anyway and my experience leads me to agree. It makes sense when you consider visibility and predictability. For one example, let's say you're approaching an intersection you're going to go straight through and a car is approaching you from behind, preparing to turn right. In the street, the driver's likely to see you and should allow you to clear the intersection before they turn. If you're on the sidewalk, though, the driver's probably not going to see you as you approach the intersection. The car could potentially turn right without expecting you to come rolling off the sidewalk faster than a pedestrian would. Driveways are another common source of sidewalk accidents. If a car pulls out of a blind driveway in front of you, you may not have time to react if you're on the sidewalk. But you determine what's legal and practical for you, and enjoy the ride either way!
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. I think my lean towards Specialized is b/c that is one of the few I have used. I actually have used a Cannondale and liked them as well.

Regarding sidewalks, I had not thought of it like that before, but definitely agree.
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Originally Posted by sdt1890 View Post
Primary use will be a 1.2 mile each way trip to the gym in the morning, the road has sidewalks the whole way as well.

Secondary use might include some trails.

Looking for recs on the best basic hybrid. I'm somewhat partial to Specialized, but open to ideas.
That is a very short distance to ride. Even at a leisurely pace, that is, maybe a 5 or 6 minute ride? Buy whatever you like. If you are on a budget, hard to beat the Giant Escape 3, which retails for $340. If you ride more than 2.5 miles a day, I would suggest something better. How much better is up to you.
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Old 04-12-17, 11:11 AM
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Sounds like the base model Specialized Sirrus would work well for you.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/me.../sirrus/115192

11-32t 8-speed rear derailleur, 48/38/28t triple crank, so a 24 speed with lots of gear ratio range. 38mm wide tires that will be good for what you want to do. Aluminum frame with a steel fork that will accommodate fenders and a rear rack if you want to carry stuff... for $500 (sometimes a little cheaper if you can find a non-current year model) a great "all rounder". Regardless of which bike you end up getting, the best thing to do is take it for a test ride to make sure it's a good fit.
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Old 04-12-17, 11:25 AM
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wow, that company makes a lot of models! just took a look at the local pre-owned market and found these that caught my eye. good luck with your new bike, whatever it is!

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/6081669694.html

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/6073605607.html

https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/bik/6083543828.html

how about a cx bike?
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/6083608984.html

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/6082204889.html

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/6083652064.html
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Originally Posted by MRT2 View Post
That is a very short distance to ride. Even at a leisurely pace, that is, maybe a 5 or 6 minute ride? Buy whatever you like. If you are on a budget, hard to beat the Giant Escape 3, which retails for $340. If you ride more than 2.5 miles a day, I would suggest something better. How much better is up to you.
It turns out there is a local bike shop a few miles away where I just moved to and based on their website, they sell a lot of these Giant bikes.
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Old 04-12-17, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sdt1890 View Post
It turns out there is a local bike shop a few miles away where I just moved to and based on their website, they sell a lot of these Giant bikes.
looks like they hold their value. here's a used one for $280 (but don't know if it's a "3")

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Old 04-12-17, 02:13 PM
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Any bike you like that's within your budget should be fine. Probably best to avoid highly focused road, mountain, and cargo bikes.
Be wary of any advice on how or where to ride, we don't know anything about you, your location, or abilities. Use your common sense, and don't let anyone pressure you to do anything you're uncomfortable with.
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there are studies that suggest the street is safer than sidewalks
Can you please post a link to these studies.

Nearly 50% of cyclist fatalities in the U.S. are bicycle riders on the road being hit from behind by errant drivers.
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Old 04-14-17, 07:26 AM
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Appreciate all the feedback. I'm going to go to a few local shops this weekend to check some bikes out!
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Can you please post a link to these studies.
Sure, here's one that Google turned up: ADULT BICYCLISTS IN THE UNITED STATES - CHARACTERISTICS AND RIDING EXPERIENCE IN 1996 by William E. Moritz, Ph.D., University of Washington

...and this 'Bicycling on Sidewalks' PDF from Cornell University's web site contains some pertinent info, including references to studies.

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Nearly 50% of cyclist fatalities in the U.S. are bicycle riders on the road being hit from behind by errant drivers.
That type of collision may well be more likely to result in fatalities (I'd be interested to see that study), but according to what I've read, it's an uncommon type of collision, accounting for about 1/20 of all reported accidents between bicycles and motor vehicles.

I don't want this to devolve into a thread like the ones in the Advocacy and Safety subforum, so I'm content to leave sdt1890 to use his or her best judgement and do what's right in their particular situation.
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Sure, here's one that Google turned up: ADULT BICYCLISTS IN THE UNITED STATES - CHARACTERISTICS AND RIDING EXPERIENCE IN 1996 by William E. Moritz, Ph.D., University of Washington

...and this 'Bicycling on Sidewalks' PDF from Cornell University's web site contains some pertinent info, including references to studies.
Thanks. Those are both just opinion pieces. Anything with hard data and substance?

Here's the most recent LAB (successor to LAW) report which is about 180 degrees from the reports you found (the first of your's was a LAW survey of members that included a question on where they thought was safer which was conducted in 1996 during the height of Vehicular Cycling promotion).

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Originally Posted by CrankyOne View Post
Thanks. Those are both just opinion pieces. Anything with hard data and substance?
Risk Factors for Bicycle-Motor Vehicle Collisions, A. Wachtel & D. Lewiston, ITE Journal (Institute of Traffic Engineers), 1994

Ottawa-Carleton Commuter Cyclist On- and Off-Road Incident Rates, L. Aultman-Hall, University of Kentucky Department of Civil Engineering, 1998

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Here's the most recent LAB (successor to LAW) report which is about 180 degrees from the reports you found...
You seem to have forgotten to include the link. If you want to provide it for sdt1890, go right ahead. With or without it, he (or she) probably has enough information and opinion from posts in this thread. And if not, there's always Google. Like I said earlier, I'll leave it to him to do what's right in his particular situation.

Over and out.
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I had a specialized Sirrus, was a great bike for shorter rides. However I wanted to ramp up my cycling, so I purchased a road bike. 1.2 miles? any bike will do, even a fat bike if there are not big hills
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I ride a Specialized Sirrus as my regular road bike. I prefer the more upright riding position. I added bar ends for more more hand positions but it's a very comfortable bike. I've done many metric centuries on it.
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Another vote for an Escape 3. I ride one as my commuter and greenway bike. Wide tires (I think 32 are stock; I have 40s on mine), upright riding position, no suspension, just a good basic bike.
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Went to a few places this weekend, definitely a good, learning experience.

First was the local Giant dealer, <1 mile from my place, I took a test ride of the Escape 2 and 3. I liked the bike, but wish the tires were a bit thicker. I think I however, prefer not having a straight/flat handlebar.

I then went and looked at some of the Specialized bikes. I was pretty set on the Crossroads and it was even on sale, had a $329.95 Sale sticker on the bike, fit me well, and I liked the thicker tire and more upright handlebar. The salesman said it was one of their best sellers for new riders and a good time to buy as they had them marked down. I was ready to buy the bike and he then says something about how the bike was mispriced, pulled/rips the Sales tag off of the bike, and said it was actually $419.99... wtf... I walked out...

Tonight went and looked at a used Specialized on CL and it had some mechanical problems, so a pass...

Now back to square one...
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Originally Posted by sdt1890 View Post
Went to a few places this weekend, definitely a good, learning experience.

First was the local Giant dealer, <1 mile from my place, I took a test ride of the Escape 2 and 3. I liked the bike, but wish the tires were a bit thicker. I think I however, prefer not having a straight/flat handlebar.

I then went and looked at some of the Specialized bikes. I was pretty set on the Crossroads and it was even on sale, had a $329.95 Sale sticker on the bike, fit me well, and I liked the thicker tire and more upright handlebar. The salesman said it was one of their best sellers for new riders and a good time to buy as they had them marked down. I was ready to buy the bike and he then says something about how the bike was mispriced, pulled/rips the Sales tag off of the bike, and said it was actually $419.99... wtf... I walked out...

Tonight went and looked at a used Specialized on CL and it had some mechanical problems, so a pass...

Now back to square one...
Tires, handlebars, or for that matter pedals and saddles, are not the things to focus on when you evaluate a new bike as these things are easily swapped out.
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Tires, handlebars, or for that matter pedals and saddles, are not the things to focus on when you evaluate a new bike as these things are easily swapped out.
I would disagree - depending on who you are.

Tires = $25-$50 ea, or $50-$100 total
Handlebars = $35-$60+
Basic Pedals = $25-$50+
Saddle = $50-$100

While enthusiasts may have no problem dropping $500-$1000 on a brand new bike, and then another $200-$400 the next day to take off brand new parts and replace with other brand new parts, your average recreational buyer would likely be way happier finding a bike with all of the components to their liking to start with and saving the hassle and extra cost of rebuilding a brand new bike.

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Originally Posted by sdt1890 View Post
The salesman said it was one of their best sellers for new riders and a good time to buy as they had them marked down. I was ready to buy the bike and he then says something about how the bike was mispriced, pulled/rips the Sales tag off of the bike, and said it was actually $419.99... wtf... I walked out...
Not sure about where you live, but in Canada, we have laws to protect consumers from that baloney. If the product was priced with a sticker or tag in the store - they legally have to sell it to you for that price and take the loss themselves, unless they can prove that you maliciously moved the tags around yourself, in which case you could be charged with fraud or theft.

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Originally Posted by therealjoeblow View Post
I would disagree - depending on who you are.

Tires = $25-$50 ea, or $50-$100 total
Handlebars = $35-$60+
Basic Pedals = $25-$50+
Saddle = $50-$100

While enthusiasts may have no problem dropping $500-$1000 on a brand new bike, and then another $200-$400 the next day to take off brand new parts and replace with other brand new parts, your average recreational buyer would likely be way happier finding a bike with all of the components to their liking to start with and saving the hassle and extra cost of rebuilding a brand new bike.

Cheers
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My thoughts exactly...
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Originally Posted by therealjoeblow View Post
Not sure about where you live, but in Canada, we have laws to protect consumers from that baloney. If the product was priced with a sticker or tag in the store - they legally have to sell it to you for that price and take the loss themselves, unless they can prove that you maliciously moved the tags around yourself, in which case you could be charged with fraud or theft.

Cheers
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I live in Missouri, but yeah first time I've ever been part of a situation like this... It honestly didn't make a whole lot of sense, as they said it was one of their best sellers for it to be marked down from $440 retail to $329.95. I give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps to a fault, with small businesses like this...
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