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Survey Say... Road Cyclists are A-holes

Old 05-14-17, 07:31 PM
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Survey Say... Road Cyclists are A-holes

It all began with an innocent conversation with 3 bus drivers who had a big rant about the arrogance of cyclists on their city routes. After that I canvassed many other people from neighbours to clients and none of them had a kind word to say about road cyclists they had experienced in their daily commutes. They either didn't notice any or noticed and had a very negative attitude towards them. I can understand the daily bike commuters frustration with traffic and their fear of being squashed but the attitude displayed by the majority of cyclists has turned the average driver totally against them.

Personally I don't see any solution to this mutual hate war other than completely seperating cars and bicycles and then will never happen. But what a way to live your life, hating and being the object of contempt. Funny the hands life deals us sometimes.
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Old 05-14-17, 07:37 PM
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Well, lot's of roadies are a-holes. I can understand the negative view many people have of them. Lot'of nice riders too, but plenty of a-holes as well.
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A lot of motorist are a-holes also.
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Old 05-14-17, 07:46 PM
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Ask them what they think of drivers in general. Find someone who doesn't think drivers in their area are the worst. After that ask about motorcycles, trucks, pedestrians, you name it. Getting into a car makes people hate everyone else for some reason.
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Old 05-14-17, 08:38 PM
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At least we are quiet a-holes.

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Old 05-14-17, 08:41 PM
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I'm just nice.
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Old 05-14-17, 08:54 PM
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Maybe get rid of those silly expensive car lanes that my tax dollar pay for even though I do zero damage to them (unlike cars, trucks or buses) and just have bike lanes or charge car drivers triple the tax.

I frequently get yelled at by car drivers and have been threatened many times not because I did something to them but simply because I was in the lane I am allowed to take by law riding on a vehicle that does not cause pollution. I am minding my own business and they feel it is their business to get in my business.

I don't care that some morons think roadies are a-holes or even if some might actually be, because I can guarantee you that behind that wheel is a larger more crap filled A-hole who feels they are self-entitled to a road they do the most damage to and cause more accidents on. I would rather have 50 "A-hole" roadies than 1 single a-hole driver. Heck those 50 could be all Triathletes on their silly tri bikes covered in piss and I would still prefer them to that one driver.
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Old 05-14-17, 09:13 PM
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Such grumpiness only leads to poor political thinking and farm foreclosures. If you don't like the attitudes of your bus drivers, make sure to mention that to their company. They shouldn't be acting like that on company time.
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Old 05-14-17, 09:13 PM
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This just in: 5 out of 5 people think the other 4 are idiots. Or ********. Or heathens. Or whatever.

But the fact that anyone still finds this newsworthy is the only newsworthy angle to the story.
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Survey says: X are ********.

Go ahead, give me any group of people partaking in a certain activity, or even specific subset of an activity, to fill in X and I can give you anecdotal evidence why.

Oops, didn't mean to be offensive, just forgot to stylize the original term posted!
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Old 05-14-17, 09:29 PM
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Fear. The word is fear. No one "hates" a stranger in a passing automobile. And no motorist forms an opinion about someone riding pass on a bike.

But many motorists have had the holy crap scared out of them... when they were surprised by "a cyclist out of no where".... or other near miss. The thought of mangling or killing someone (and the consequences that follow) scares (generates fear) in every sane adult.

And many cyclist ride in fear (of being mangled or killed). I am not saying they should or shouldn't be fearful. But I wouldn't envy a lifestyle based on a fearful reaction to others. I'd guess (just a guest)... that anxiety is at the heart of many of the anti-motorist AND anti-cyclist rants.
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Old 05-14-17, 09:31 PM
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I always thought that we should have a day where cyclists attack innocent motorists like motorists commonly attack innocent cyclists. But I don't think that it would have a very good outcome.
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Old 05-14-17, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by coominya View Post
It all began with an innocent conversation with 3 bus drivers who had a big rant about the arrogance of cyclists on their city routes. ..... I can understand the daily bike commuters frustration with traffic and their fear of being squashed but the attitude displayed by the majority of cyclists has turned the average driver totally against them.

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In my 50 plus years of riding on the road, I've never noticed a pattern of antagonism toward me as a cyclist. maybe because I do most of my riding in the east, or away from major centers when touring elsewhere.

I agree that the attitude of some cyclists isn't very helpful, but I don't think they're a majority, nor do I believe in or accept class distinctions.

My experience has always been, and continues to be evidence that you get what you give, and motorists are more interested in your direct effect on them, than any kind of broad assumptions or class distinctions.

That said, I also talk to motorists, and what i hear isn't that they hate us, but more that they're afraid of us, or more to the point fear that our erratic riding will cause them to hit us, with bad consequences running from simple guilt and regret at causing injury or death, to fear of legal consequences. Their complaints remind me of what truckers used to say about drivers of VW bugs.

So, ride smart and SHARE the road, and most (but not all) drivers will share it with you.
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Old 05-14-17, 09:45 PM
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I'm a truck driver and a cyclist. I see acts of unkindness 100s of times in a day. Its a self centered world for a lot of people. Its our choice to be part of the problem or not. And to except what IS. Acts of kindness ripple.
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Old 05-14-17, 09:51 PM
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As someone that lives in Ottawa, the second worst drivers on the road work for OC Transpo our bus company here. The actual worst are the taxi drivers! Car drivers are good and bad depending on whom is driving them. The safest on the other had are the larger transport truck drivers. I will also be the first to admit there is good and bad bicyclists as well.
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Old 05-14-17, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by coominya View Post
It all began with an innocent conversation with 3 bus drivers who had a big rant about the arrogance of cyclists on their city routes. After that I canvassed many other people from neighbours to clients and none of them had a kind word to say about road cyclists they had experienced in their daily commutes. They either didn't notice any or noticed and had a very negative attitude towards them.
Why does that surprise you? Survey any group of bicycle riders regarding motorists. I'm sure you will get the similar answers. Keep in mind that most bike riders are also motorists so we are talking about ourselves. On any ride you are likely to encounter hundreds of drivers who treat you respectfully. You seldom notice them because that's what you expect. Let one dirt bag pass you a little too closely and that's the jerk who you'll remember all day.
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Were any of the bus drivers named Ralph Kramden? Did he offer any free one way trips to the moon?
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Were any of the bus drivers named Ralph Kramden? Did he offer any free one way trips to the moon?
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They hate cyclists because cyclists are an obstacle to be gotten around, to avoid hitting, and in a word, a nuisance. Their disdain for us is like ours for pedestrians on trails. Yeah, we know they have just as much right to be there, but we don't like it. At least we have the option of staying off; motorist do not have that option.
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Old 05-15-17, 05:41 AM
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If you ask those same drives what "share the road" means, they'll tell you that bikes only need a 6" slice of the shoulder, and if they take more than that they're taking more than their SHARE.

The problem isn't our behavior, it's their expectations.
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Old 05-15-17, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by coominya View Post
It all began with an innocent conversation with 3 bus drivers...
There's your problem.
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I thought you meant you did a survey here ....

Just look at any thread that goes past two pages .... case closed.
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I think many bus drivers are in a constant state of road rage -- I probably would be. There was a guy here in town that would intentionally block traffic if anyone was over the white stop line at a light. This would happen a couple of times a day out in front of the building at work.
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