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Is Sora > Alivio?

Old 05-19-17, 06:22 PM
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Is Sora > Alivio?

This is just a sort of an "out there" question but I'm asking because I don't understand the price differences I've seen between Sora and Alivio. Since bike24 has a huge list of Shimano components, I decided to make some comparisons on the same site. Note, I changed the prices to Canadian dollars and rounded out the amounts but I was surprised by the overall difference.
https://www.bike24.com/manufacturers/Shimano.html


brakes
Shimano Sora (mini-V) BR-R353 $45
Shimano Alivio BR-T4000 $36


brake levers
Shimano Sora BL-R3000 $35
Shimano Alivio BL-M4000 $25


shifters
Shimano Sora (flat-bar) SL-R3000 $98
Shimano Alivio SL-M4000 $53


cranksets
Shimano Sora FC-R3030 $120
Shimano Alivio FC-M4060 $86


front derailleur
Shimano Sora FD-R3030 $35
Shimano Alivio FD-M4000 $29


rear derailleur
Shimano Sora RD-R3000 $41
Shimano Alivio RD-T4000 $44


Totals
Shimano Sora $374
Shimano Alivio $273


A $101 Canadian dollar difference between the two seems very significant to me. But, I always thought that Tiagra = Deore and Sora = Alivio. So, why would there be such a price difference between Sora and Alivio? Is Sora really superior to Alivio or is Shimano assuming people are willing to pay more for Sora since road bikes may be seen as more "sophisticated" than hybrids or mountain bikes?


By the way, I understand some may insist that the minimum you'd want is Tiagra or Deore but I was thinking if you want to do your own build (to avoid carbon forks and disc brakes), you may want Sora or Alivio since the prices often seem more reasonable than Tiagra/Deore. And the price difference between Sora/Alivio aren't too far away from Claris/Acera.
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Alivio is mtb and Sora is for the road, as you stated. They two platforms may not necessarily move lock 'n step. The difference in the price of the shifters and crankset accounts for 80% of the difference in the groupset price, which iis reasonable since these are the parts that are most costly on a road set.
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Fwiw, I have a bike that came with Alvio derailleurs and shifters, I did not like them. I could never get them to shift well.

The bike now has a Deore drivetrain, and it is much better.
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They are at roughly the same place in the Shimano hierarchy for their category. Alivio is for MTB and Sora for Road, but lines blur when building mixed use bikes. And Deore is above both in the hierarchy. Price differences are based on supply, demand, and what the market will bear.

https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeest...-the-hierarchy


https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeest...heir-hierarchy

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How thin can you slice the baloney?

Shimano has so many group sets that it makes my head ache. They ALL work . The expensive ones might work a little more crisply and they definitely look nicer. As you move up the food chain, the price goes up exponentially.
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Thank goodness Shimano doesn't have complete monopoly control of bicycle components. Or, do they? Hmmmmmm........
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