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Old 05-26-17, 08:08 PM
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Gender Laws and "Competitive" Cycling?

What are the gender laws regarding competitive cycling? Are transgender people (specifically male to female) allowed to compete in female races?

If so, opinions for whether that's fair or not?

Apparently the Olympics allows this, with some pretty heavy restrictions.

What about things like Strava? Is it OK for a male to female transgender person to compete as a female on strava? What about if that person went around collecting all of the "QOM"s on all of the local segments?

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Old 05-26-17, 08:17 PM
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Strava? Who would know?
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*I can see the mods watching this thread very... very... closely.*
I can see the mods simply closing a thread in which a first time poster specifically says that the mods are going to have to keep an eye on it. Or simply because it is a post slathered in politics outside of the Politics forum.
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There are laws on Strava?
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
Was the username "Anonymous Troll" already taken?
Can someone not simply want to remain anonymous for fear of hurting a "friend's" feelings?

I said nothing trolly, and have not even expressed my opinion. You are the ones afraid of touching the subject.


As for strava, sure, no one would know, well... you could probably know when the closest time to the QOM is minutes away... but still...
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Originally Posted by AnonymousPoster View Post

As for strava, sure, no one would know, well... you could probably know when the closest time to the QOM is minutes away... but still...
As someone who holds a couple QOMs and who places within the top 10 for QOMs periodically ... it appears to be quite normal to have some distance between the times involved. I chalk it up to age.
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Why just "male to female"? And whats it matter to you?
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Men have done this.
It's not an earned victory.
They should feel no joy/honor in cheating women of their righteous victory.
Transgendered people are either cross dressers or genital mutilators but they are still built how their birth gender designated. Men are endowed with testosterone to build muscles much faster than women and as such have a natural advantage in any physical sport.

http://knoxreport.com/male-to-female...-arizona-race/
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Originally Posted by Hardrock23 View Post
Why just "male to female"? And whats it matter to you?
Oh come on, let's not be take this thread in that direction. We know the other way around doesn't matter as much. It's unlikely that a woman will be competitive in male sports. Sure, it happens, but again, unlikely. It's the reason the Olympic rules are MUCH more lax in that direction.

It matters to me because I have OTHER female friends who are ALSO very good riders and who AREN'T transgendered. And they care.
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Oh come on, let's not be take this thread in that direction. We know the other way around doesn't matter as much. It's unlikely that a woman will be competitive in male sports. Sure, it happens, but again, unlikely. It's the reason the Olympic rules are MUCH more lax in that direction.

It matters to me because I have OTHER female friends who are ALSO very good riders and who AREN'T transgendered. And they care.
"Oh come on...", They were just questions lol...Thank you for answering though. You didn't bring up the other side of it and many don't...I always wonder why (not just for this exact topic, of course).
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Originally Posted by Hardrock23 View Post
"Oh come on...", They were just questions lol...Thank you for answering though. You didn't bring up the other side of it and many don't...I always wonder why (not just for this exact topic, of course).
Apologies, yes, I took it as you trying to be difficult.

Even with hormones women-men transpeople will likely never really have the build of a genetic man. Genes exist, and they are a thing that is very important in sports.

Apparently the UCI rule is that trans people are allowed in races, but not national championships.
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Old 05-26-17, 11:05 PM
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I'm not one of the difficult ones Hopefully those certain few miss this thread, though...

I don't have much of an opinion on this though. I haven't ever actually thought about it.

Do you know off hand how the Olympic rules (or any other) differ for each?
That would really be the interesting part, to me anyway.
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Why let them race at all if they can't go all the way though? I don't know anything about any of the races, so I'm assuming you build up through those and then go into the national championships...?
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Caster Semenya wins Olympic women's races.
Why can't a cyclist compete like HER?

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Born a female - compete in female races/sports

Born a male - compete in male races/sports

Enough w/the PC stuff...this is out of control!

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Old 05-27-17, 06:32 AM
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This thread can only go downhill from here. It's a legitimate subject for discussion but not the way it's trending here.
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