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skids929 05-29-17 07:00 PM

Work Stands Carbon Frame
 
I have a Carbon Frame Sirrus from Specialized. Can I use a regular clamping work stand or do I need something specifically made for a carbon frame? I just want to be able to wash, adjust and maintain the bike on the stand. Which is the best stand for a carbon frame bike?

GlennR 05-29-17 07:04 PM

Just clamp it by the seatpost/seatmast.. snug, not "animal" tight.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r..._165811913.jpg

JohnDThompson 05-29-17 07:18 PM

Yes, clamp on the seatpost, unless you have a carbon fiber seatpost. If so, get a cheap aluminum or steel post of the proper diameter, remove the carbon post, insert the metal post and clamp on that. Or, if you want to get fancy (or just have multiple bikes with different seat post diameters), get the Park "Internal Seat Clamp" tool:

http://www.parktool.com/assets/img/p...tail/ISC-1.jpg

ISC-1 Internal Seat Tube Clamp | Park Tool

FeltF2Tarmac 05-29-17 07:31 PM

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I use the Feedback Sprint stand no clamping other than the front fork dropout. I do all of my maintenance except front brakes on this stand. I like the fact I'm not clamping anything that was not designed for it.

GlennR 05-29-17 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 19618656)
Yes, clamp on the seatpost, unless you have a carbon fiber seatpost. If so, get a cheap aluminum or steel post of the proper diameter, remove the carbon post, insert the metal post and clamp on that. Or, if you want to get fancy (or just have multiple bikes with different seat post diameters), get the Park "Internal Seat Clamp" tool:


ISC-1 Internal Seat Tube Clamp | Park Tool

I've have both carbon seat posts and seat masts and never had to remove them.

skids929 05-29-17 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 19618692)
I've have both carbon seat posts and seat masts and never had to remove them.


I have a CG-R seatpost on it (Carbon), thing is I am not sure I have the clearance. So basically I will have to raise each time I want to work on it right? I am not sure how I feel about the ones that mount like a roof rack since I can spin the wheel on those and do the work I want to do on the drivetrain.

TimothyH 05-29-17 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by FeltF2Tarmac (Post 19618684)
I use the Feedback Sprint stand no clamping other than the front fork dropout. I do all of my maintenance except front brakes on this stand. I like the fact I'm not clamping anything that was not designed for it.

Does that stand do thru axle?

Does it tilt?

Can you tell me how you feel about it's stability? Do you think it stable enough to work on parts requiring lots of torque like pedals and such?


-Tim-

FeltF2Tarmac 05-29-17 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 19618865)
Does that stand do thru axle?

Does it tilt?

Can you tell me how you feel about it's stability? Do you think it stable enough to work on parts requiring lots of torque like pedals and such?


-Tim-

It does do thru axle with adaptors sold separately. It does not tilt. It's very stable more so than the seatpost clamp style that this stand replaced. As far as torque goes it will handle anything a bicycle would require with out issue.

skids929 05-30-17 07:13 AM

Thing is that stand is $270...I am looking for something much cheaper since this is mostly for occasional cleanings adjustments etc. Driveway type stuff, not looking to travel with it or anything. Want to be able to clean and maintain the other 5 bikes I have for my three kids and wife as well. I like that style stand Feedback makes but may have to go with a seat post style. My bike is the one throwing it all off since it's the carbon frame in the fleet I own. grrrrrr

Marcus_Ti 05-30-17 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by skids929 (Post 19619333)
Thing is that stand is $270...I am looking for something much cheaper since this is mostly for occasional cleanings adjustments etc. Driveway type stuff, not looking to travel with it or anything. Want to be able to clean and maintain the other 5 bikes I have for my three kids and wife as well. I like that style stand Feedback makes but may have to go with a seat post style. My bike is the one throwing it all off since it's the carbon frame in the fleet I own. grrrrrr



Thing is a decent->nice brand-name repair stand is going to cost you $150-300USD, unless you hit a wicked sale (Like say that Aldi repair stand). Even the workbench top Park clamp alone is $130 USD.

As a bonus, almost all throw in folding capabilities for sake of bigger market penetration .... except for the top end shop-grade Park stand.

TimothyH 05-30-17 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by FeltF2Tarmac (Post 19618942)
It does do thru axle with adaptors sold separately. It does not tilt. It's very stable more so than the seatpost clamp style that this stand replaced. As far as torque goes it will handle anything a bicycle would require with out issue.

Thanks.




Originally Posted by skids929 (Post 19619333)
Thing is that stand is $270...I am looking for something much cheaper since this is mostly for occasional cleanings adjustments etc. Driveway type stuff, not looking to travel with it or anything. Want to be able to clean and maintain the other 5 bikes I have for my three kids and wife as well. I like that style stand Feedback makes but may have to go with a seat post style. My bike is the one throwing it all off since it's the carbon frame in the fleet I own. grrrrrr


I got a Park stand for $50 off Craigslist.




-Tim-

jefnvk 05-30-17 07:36 AM

For quick little things like that, something like this may suffice: Spin Doctor Quickstand Work Stand

skids929 05-30-17 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 19619354)
Thing is a decent->nice brand-name repair stand is going to cost you $150-300USD, unless you hit a wicked sale (Like say that Aldi repair stand). Even the workbench top Park clamp alone is $130 USD.

As a bonus, almost all throw in folding capabilities for sake of bigger market penetration .... except for the top end shop-grade Park stand.

Thanks...The other option for me is to just put the bike up on the back of my 5 bike Thule Rack I have for all the other bikes when we travel (mine goes on the roof). But I guess I could just put it on the last rung of that Thule rack and and wash and do maintenance from that location and save the $$. I love the Feedback Sprint just not looking to spend that much right now. Guess I should have thought of this when I got a carbon frame!

Cyclist0108 05-30-17 08:09 AM

If you have a place to mount it, the PARK TOOL PCS-12 BENCH MOUNT STAND is a good value. I've mounted your bike on that stand, via its seat-post, with no issue.

Jerrys88 05-30-17 08:42 AM

I am by no means an expert, but I bought this stand for exactly the same reasons you're looking to buy one - mostly to clean my bike and make minor adjustments (I let my LBS do anything beyond that). The stand is surprisingly well-built for the price. I was also concerned about mounting my carbon bike on it, but noticed my LBS puts it on their stand all the time, clamping it on my carbon seat post. I'm just careful not to over tighten it, and I hang the bike slightly tilted the way it naturally wants to hang based on its weight distribution. Works great, great price.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

JohnDThompson 05-30-17 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 19618692)
I've have both carbon seat posts and seat masts and never had to remove them.

Well, I can't argue with success.

But in a shop setting especially, why take a chance? The last thing you want to do is damage a customer's bike. I've been using the internal seat clamp since the steel frame days to avoid messing up paint and decals on seat tubes.

GlennR 05-30-17 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 19620081)
Well, I can't argue with success.

But in a shop setting especially, why take a chance? The last thing you want to do is damage a customer's bike. I've been using the internal seat clamp since the steel frame days to avoid messing up paint and decals on seat tubes.

Seat posts are pretty robust, after all, they have to support a 200#+ rider.

I rather not remove the seat post, install the clamp and reinstall the seat post making sure it's exactly the correct height and x/y axis and not under/over torque the clamp.

I ride about 150 miles a week and every Sunday i clean the bike. That would be 120 times I've loosened and tightened the clamp. So far i've not even scratch the seat post.

Hiro11 05-30-17 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 19620103)
Seat posts are pretty robust, after all, they have to support a 200#+ rider.

Yeah, in my experience a round carbon seat post is very tough and it would take a ridiculous amount of clamping force to destroy one. Just go ahead and clamp on the seat post regardless of if it's alloy or carbon.

If you have an aero seat post, I'd get one of the fork-mounted stands above.

John_V 05-30-17 02:14 PM

I have a Park stand and have two friends that bring their bikes to my house when they need a stand. Both have carbon seatposts and tighten them down pretty good. Neither of them have ever crushed or cracked a seatpost.

JohnDThompson 05-30-17 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 19620103)
Seat posts are pretty robust, after all, they have to support a 200#+ rider.

Sure, but not the type of loading a clamp imposes.


I rather not remove the seat post, install the clamp and reinstall the seat post making sure it's exactly the correct height
BITD, I used a carpenter's square to record the saddle height before pulling the post. Might be a little trickier now with sloping top tubes, but the principle is still the same. Also works for installing a new saddle or post. Use a piece of masking tape on the top tube to mark where the nose of the saddle should be. An angle-finder on the saddle will show any tilt in the original set-up. Install the new parts using this information and it's as close to before as possible.

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/square.jpg

cthenn 05-30-17 04:07 PM

I use a Euro style stand similar to the Feedback sports one, but a cheaper version I found on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/VENZO-Worksta.../dp/B00KVZIA38

So much better than a traditional seatpost clamp style IMO. Never have to worry about clamping any carbon parts, and it doesn't impart the same kinds of forces on the bike as the clamp style. Only issue is as you already asked...it does not tilt.

J.Higgins 05-30-17 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 19620608)
Sure, but not the type of loading a clamp imposes.



BITD, I used a carpenter's square to record the saddle height before pulling the post. Might be a little trickier now with sloping top tubes, but the principle is still the same. Also works for installing a new saddle or post. Use a piece of masking tape on the top tube to mark where the nose of the saddle should be. An angle-finder on the saddle will show any tilt in the original set-up. Install the new parts using this information and it's as close to before as possible.

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/square.jpg

I've been wrenching bikes for myself, and off/on professionally for 40+ years. So why haven't I thought of this?

TELL ME!

Cheers, [MENTION=20548]JohnDThompson[/MENTION]

Scooty Puff Jr 05-30-17 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Jerrys88 (Post 19619545)
I am by no means an expert, but I bought this stand for exactly the same reasons you're looking to buy one - mostly to clean my bike and make minor adjustments (I let my LBS do anything beyond that). The stand is surprisingly well-built for the price. I was also concerned about mounting my carbon bike on it, but noticed my LBS puts it one their stand all the time, clamping it on my carbon seat post. I'm just careful not to over tighten it, and I hang the bike slightly tilted the way it naturally wants to hang based on its weight distribution. Works great, great price.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have the same stand, and I like it a lot ! I use it on both my aluminum and carbon bike with no issues.

corrado33 05-30-17 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 19620608)
Sure, but not the type of loading a clamp imposes.



BITD, I used a carpenter's square to record the saddle height before pulling the post. Might be a little trickier now with sloping top tubes, but the principle is still the same. Also works for installing a new saddle or post. Use a piece of masking tape on the top tube to mark where the nose of the saddle should be. An angle-finder on the saddle will show any tilt in the original set-up. Install the new parts using this information and it's as close to before as possible.

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/square.jpg

While yes, this is a good idea... you could... oh I dunno... use a sharpie on the seatpost? Works for me? And if the lug has curvature on the top of it, it'll also record saddle twist (I sit on the bike crooked, so my saddle isn't perfectly straight.)

Scooty Puff Jr 05-30-17 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by skids929 (Post 19618747)
I have a CG-R seatpost on it (Carbon), thing is I am not sure I have the clearance. So basically I will have to raise each time I want to work on it right? I am not sure how I feel about the ones that mount like a roof rack since I can spin the wheel on those and do the work I want to do on the drivetrain.

How low is your seatpost ? Most stand clamps are only a few inches in length, if you do need to raise your seatpost just mark it at the seat clamp with a Sharpie before you remove it. I mark all my seatposts mainly to check to see they didn't shift and move lower because of a hard ride or a loose seat clamp.


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