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Work Stands Carbon Frame
I have a Carbon Frame Sirrus from Specialized. Can I use a regular clamping work stand or do I need something specifically made for a carbon frame? I just want to be able to wash, adjust and maintain the bike on the stand. Which is the best stand for a carbon frame bike?
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Just clamp it by the seatpost/seatmast.. snug, not "animal" tight.
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Yes, clamp on the seatpost, unless you have a carbon fiber seatpost. If so, get a cheap aluminum or steel post of the proper diameter, remove the carbon post, insert the metal post and clamp on that. Or, if you want to get fancy (or just have multiple bikes with different seat post diameters), get the Park "Internal Seat Clamp" tool:
http://www.parktool.com/assets/img/p...tail/ISC-1.jpg ISC-1 Internal Seat Tube Clamp | Park Tool |
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I use the Feedback Sprint stand no clamping other than the front fork dropout. I do all of my maintenance except front brakes on this stand. I like the fact I'm not clamping anything that was not designed for it.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 19618656)
Yes, clamp on the seatpost, unless you have a carbon fiber seatpost. If so, get a cheap aluminum or steel post of the proper diameter, remove the carbon post, insert the metal post and clamp on that. Or, if you want to get fancy (or just have multiple bikes with different seat post diameters), get the Park "Internal Seat Clamp" tool:
ISC-1 Internal Seat Tube Clamp | Park Tool |
Originally Posted by oldnslow2
(Post 19618692)
I've have both carbon seat posts and seat masts and never had to remove them.
I have a CG-R seatpost on it (Carbon), thing is I am not sure I have the clearance. So basically I will have to raise each time I want to work on it right? I am not sure how I feel about the ones that mount like a roof rack since I can spin the wheel on those and do the work I want to do on the drivetrain. |
Originally Posted by FeltF2Tarmac
(Post 19618684)
I use the Feedback Sprint stand no clamping other than the front fork dropout. I do all of my maintenance except front brakes on this stand. I like the fact I'm not clamping anything that was not designed for it.
Does it tilt? Can you tell me how you feel about it's stability? Do you think it stable enough to work on parts requiring lots of torque like pedals and such? -Tim- |
Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 19618865)
Does that stand do thru axle?
Does it tilt? Can you tell me how you feel about it's stability? Do you think it stable enough to work on parts requiring lots of torque like pedals and such? -Tim- |
Thing is that stand is $270...I am looking for something much cheaper since this is mostly for occasional cleanings adjustments etc. Driveway type stuff, not looking to travel with it or anything. Want to be able to clean and maintain the other 5 bikes I have for my three kids and wife as well. I like that style stand Feedback makes but may have to go with a seat post style. My bike is the one throwing it all off since it's the carbon frame in the fleet I own. grrrrrr
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Originally Posted by skids929
(Post 19619333)
Thing is that stand is $270...I am looking for something much cheaper since this is mostly for occasional cleanings adjustments etc. Driveway type stuff, not looking to travel with it or anything. Want to be able to clean and maintain the other 5 bikes I have for my three kids and wife as well. I like that style stand Feedback makes but may have to go with a seat post style. My bike is the one throwing it all off since it's the carbon frame in the fleet I own. grrrrrr
Thing is a decent->nice brand-name repair stand is going to cost you $150-300USD, unless you hit a wicked sale (Like say that Aldi repair stand). Even the workbench top Park clamp alone is $130 USD. As a bonus, almost all throw in folding capabilities for sake of bigger market penetration .... except for the top end shop-grade Park stand. |
Originally Posted by FeltF2Tarmac
(Post 19618942)
It does do thru axle with adaptors sold separately. It does not tilt. It's very stable more so than the seatpost clamp style that this stand replaced. As far as torque goes it will handle anything a bicycle would require with out issue.
Originally Posted by skids929
(Post 19619333)
Thing is that stand is $270...I am looking for something much cheaper since this is mostly for occasional cleanings adjustments etc. Driveway type stuff, not looking to travel with it or anything. Want to be able to clean and maintain the other 5 bikes I have for my three kids and wife as well. I like that style stand Feedback makes but may have to go with a seat post style. My bike is the one throwing it all off since it's the carbon frame in the fleet I own. grrrrrr
I got a Park stand for $50 off Craigslist. -Tim- |
For quick little things like that, something like this may suffice: Spin Doctor Quickstand Work Stand
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
(Post 19619354)
Thing is a decent->nice brand-name repair stand is going to cost you $150-300USD, unless you hit a wicked sale (Like say that Aldi repair stand). Even the workbench top Park clamp alone is $130 USD.
As a bonus, almost all throw in folding capabilities for sake of bigger market penetration .... except for the top end shop-grade Park stand. |
If you have a place to mount it, the PARK TOOL PCS-12 BENCH MOUNT STAND is a good value. I've mounted your bike on that stand, via its seat-post, with no issue.
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I am by no means an expert, but I bought this stand for exactly the same reasons you're looking to buy one - mostly to clean my bike and make minor adjustments (I let my LBS do anything beyond that). The stand is surprisingly well-built for the price. I was also concerned about mounting my carbon bike on it, but noticed my LBS puts it on their stand all the time, clamping it on my carbon seat post. I'm just careful not to over tighten it, and I hang the bike slightly tilted the way it naturally wants to hang based on its weight distribution. Works great, great price.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
Originally Posted by oldnslow2
(Post 19618692)
I've have both carbon seat posts and seat masts and never had to remove them.
But in a shop setting especially, why take a chance? The last thing you want to do is damage a customer's bike. I've been using the internal seat clamp since the steel frame days to avoid messing up paint and decals on seat tubes. |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 19620081)
Well, I can't argue with success.
But in a shop setting especially, why take a chance? The last thing you want to do is damage a customer's bike. I've been using the internal seat clamp since the steel frame days to avoid messing up paint and decals on seat tubes. I rather not remove the seat post, install the clamp and reinstall the seat post making sure it's exactly the correct height and x/y axis and not under/over torque the clamp. I ride about 150 miles a week and every Sunday i clean the bike. That would be 120 times I've loosened and tightened the clamp. So far i've not even scratch the seat post. |
Originally Posted by oldnslow2
(Post 19620103)
Seat posts are pretty robust, after all, they have to support a 200#+ rider.
If you have an aero seat post, I'd get one of the fork-mounted stands above. |
I have a Park stand and have two friends that bring their bikes to my house when they need a stand. Both have carbon seatposts and tighten them down pretty good. Neither of them have ever crushed or cracked a seatpost.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
(Post 19620103)
Seat posts are pretty robust, after all, they have to support a 200#+ rider.
I rather not remove the seat post, install the clamp and reinstall the seat post making sure it's exactly the correct height http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/square.jpg |
I use a Euro style stand similar to the Feedback sports one, but a cheaper version I found on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/VENZO-Worksta.../dp/B00KVZIA38 So much better than a traditional seatpost clamp style IMO. Never have to worry about clamping any carbon parts, and it doesn't impart the same kinds of forces on the bike as the clamp style. Only issue is as you already asked...it does not tilt. |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 19620608)
Sure, but not the type of loading a clamp imposes.
BITD, I used a carpenter's square to record the saddle height before pulling the post. Might be a little trickier now with sloping top tubes, but the principle is still the same. Also works for installing a new saddle or post. Use a piece of masking tape on the top tube to mark where the nose of the saddle should be. An angle-finder on the saddle will show any tilt in the original set-up. Install the new parts using this information and it's as close to before as possible. http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/square.jpg TELL ME! Cheers, [MENTION=20548]JohnDThompson[/MENTION] |
Originally Posted by Jerrys88
(Post 19619545)
I am by no means an expert, but I bought this stand for exactly the same reasons you're looking to buy one - mostly to clean my bike and make minor adjustments (I let my LBS do anything beyond that). The stand is surprisingly well-built for the price. I was also concerned about mounting my carbon bike on it, but noticed my LBS puts it one their stand all the time, clamping it on my carbon seat post. I'm just careful not to over tighten it, and I hang the bike slightly tilted the way it naturally wants to hang based on its weight distribution. Works great, great price.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 19620608)
Sure, but not the type of loading a clamp imposes.
BITD, I used a carpenter's square to record the saddle height before pulling the post. Might be a little trickier now with sloping top tubes, but the principle is still the same. Also works for installing a new saddle or post. Use a piece of masking tape on the top tube to mark where the nose of the saddle should be. An angle-finder on the saddle will show any tilt in the original set-up. Install the new parts using this information and it's as close to before as possible. http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/square.jpg |
Originally Posted by skids929
(Post 19618747)
I have a CG-R seatpost on it (Carbon), thing is I am not sure I have the clearance. So basically I will have to raise each time I want to work on it right? I am not sure how I feel about the ones that mount like a roof rack since I can spin the wheel on those and do the work I want to do on the drivetrain.
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