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Old 06-19-17, 01:16 PM
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I got crappy advice ... I got it here.

But ... basically, jefnvk, what you keep saying is, it isn't easy.

What is?

I say again, the only thing that makes cycling different is We do it.

On photography sites, there will be people who suggest beginner cameras, or sub-beginner cameras, who suggest sticking with camera phones until you know for sure you Really want to invest... there will be people who will kill you if you don't by Canon, and will kill your whole family if you don't buy Nikon ... and the few who will suggest Sony.

Go to any store and the salesperson will confidently assure you, you need to buy all the gear that makes the store the most profit.

Read the mags, and of course Every product is better than the next ... and Way better than the last generation... you know .0000000000000000000000000000002 % less harmonic flux or whatever ("This reviewer saw a touch of vignetting and some color distortion when applying the flame of a blowtorch to the lens at an oblique angle .... which the newest lens exhibits only when being bombarded with an ion stream. Well worth the extra $1000 to upgrade.") it's vertically compliant and lower signal-to-noise! (Stereo equipment used to be another good field for people wearing hip waders.)

The idea that in every realm except cycling there is a "Holy Book of absolutely undistorted purely factual information that You want to know," well ....

I mean, how can you ever buy anything?

Anyway ... yeah, it is the same for Every Single Product (why do we get second opinions when doctors tell us serious stuff?) so why would cycling be different?

The information is out there. You just have to look hard. And a lot of times it is in those same sources you mention .. which is why I tell people to check online Before going to the bike shop. Contrast reveals differences.

And frankly, I don't care if someone is scared off from buying a bike.

I know I am supposed to be "Advocate of the Holy Life of Bike " because I post here, but if a person doesn't know his or her own mind ... best wait. It worked for you.

Maybe that person will find a different diversion, and won't go around complaining about being oversold at some bike shop and never riding ... because the person really didn't want to ride much anyway. I don't know ... but it becomes a sort of Darwin thing. if you cannot master acquiring what you need to live, to die.

Seriously .. have you ever bought a car? Do you really think Anyone ever told you Fact? You got impressions ... opinions, anecdotes ... but the only Facts are the physical dimensions of the car. Otherwise it is all anecdote and opinion.

But if you want a car or need a car ... somehow you find what you need to make a choice ... I hope.

Right now we live in a world which offers us more options than quite literally Ever in the History of the Human Race, and also offers us More Information, more Easily Available, than at any time in the History of the Human Race.

Shoot brother ... when I was growing up there was One bike store. You either got the One model sold at the local department store ... or you went to the One bicycle shop and bought one of the two models they offered in your size (In my case Schwinn Suburban or Schwinn Varsity.)

There was no one to "talk to" except the owner. There was no "cycling community," and back then newsletters were actual letters sent in the mail. There were no "internet billboards." No "Craigslist." There was the classified section of the newspaper--and all the bikes were the same because there were only department store bikes and bikes from The One Bike Shop.

If you think that is better ... then next time you want to buy a bike, tell me your size and I will buy one for you. You can come look at it but you have no choice ... except maybe flat bars or drops. It comes in whatever color ... it comes in. Hope you like it, because you own it.

That's how it used to be. If that sounds better, I can make it that way for you again. Just let me know.

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Old 06-19-17, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
This is my point tho. So many times they are told buy a bike and the whole kit that is way beyond their means. Most of us dont have cubic money to spend on our hobby, and it is NOT necessary either.
I don't see this happening. Can you post some links?
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I think if people want to dress in matching kit, emulate pro racers and fully embrace "roadie" culture, that's cool. Whatever works for you.

However, I think the dominance of that culture in the cycling community (furoms, marketing, bike shops) was, for a long time, a net loss for cycling participation as a whole in the US.

I am happy to see more marketing towards, and interest in, other approaches to cycling in recent years. I think it is very good for cycling as a whole and will increase participation.
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I wonder if other members of different sports/hobbies waste as much time worrying about how each other do their sport/hobby.

Personally, I am a serious cyclist and I have no time for fun or fun related activities.
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Old 06-19-17, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo View Post
Well, friend, this is where you and I must needs diverge in opinion. I find that if I do not ensconce the old undercarriage, as it were, in ASSOS my ass will hurt!
Actually we don't ... seriously

I too park the naughty bits in lycra/chamois. Simple personal preference/comfort is all. Can't imagine not cycling in cycling clothing, but couldn't give a rat's bottom what others wear, or what they ride.
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Old 06-19-17, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj View Post
I measure my 'speed' the old fashioned way - distance/time. With a wristwatch.
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What's a wristwatch?
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I don't understand the OP.

For me, being competitive (even with myself via strava) IS what makes cycling fun. I could do much more fun things with my time than hopping on a bike for 2 hours. I personally find video games very fun, but yet I still cycle because A: it keeps me in shape and B: it's fun to go fast.

I don't really often enjoy riding slowly as around here there really isn't anywhere to do that.

If I'm road riding I ride fast because it's the only thing that makes riding long stretches of road fun. If I'm off road I ride fast because adrenaline.

I find your style of riding boring. By riding fast, making it competitive, and pushing myself I make cycling fun... for me.
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Old 06-19-17, 01:58 PM
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Wait. What? Cycling is supposed to be fun? Why didn't anyone tell me that before??

Jokes aside, often I have learnt more from bad advice than good advice.
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Old 06-19-17, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
I can only relate to you my personal experiences. I was someone looking to get into cycling on a road bike, who was put off by horrid advice. I have little doubt that there are many others like me, except who actually did say screw it. For those of you who laugh at me because you got great advice the first time you looked for a bike, I'm glad for you, but that is exactly why I point this out when I can. As @wgscott insinuated, sometimes no advice is better than bad advice.
Unless you're getting your information from a single source or a single person there is no way the consensus would have been to get 105 or don't bother. There may very well have been zealots who would have told you that, but plenty of people here, as well as writers in publications who will tell you that Sora or Tiagra are just find for entry level. It is up to you to wade through all the data and come to a conclusion yourself.

As for your friends/acquaintances who fed you the same BS, find new friends.
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Old 06-19-17, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2 View Post
Where is their Strava?

Trust me, they have it too.

https://www.gamegolf.com/home/en-us/?v=21f9163

From website: Challenge your friends, See stats, Earn bragging rights.
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Netherlands. See any drops?
Outside of cities? There are plenty. People ride there in "kit" too. And they ride carbon fiber bikes...just like the pros!
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I don't see this happening. Can you post some links?
Read Bicycling magazine. The higher the price the greater the ballyhoo.

You never see the absolute fact that at a moderate price point you have all the bike you need. After that point all you are getting is name and snobbery.
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With regard to spandex

I'm 65 and started riding in January. I'm a construction guy so there was no way I was going to were spandex. Well after increasing riding to 100 miles a week and doing 60 miles 2 weekends ago, I bought my third pair of bibshorts on Father's Day. Now when I ride with my bride of 45 years on the weekend, I have to wear cargos over them, but holy cow what a game changer when it comes to comfort.
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Originally Posted by corrado33 View Post
I don't understand the OP.

For me, being competitive (even with myself via strava) IS what makes cycling fun. I could do much more fun things with my time than hopping on a bike for 2 hours. I personally find video games very fun, but yet I still cycle because A: it keeps me in shape and B: it's fun to go fast.

I don't really often enjoy riding slowly as around here there really isn't anywhere to do that.

If I'm road riding I ride fast because it's the only thing that makes riding long stretches of road fun. If I'm off road I ride fast because adrenaline.

I find your style of riding boring. By riding fast, making it competitive, and pushing myself I make cycling fun... for me.
If that is what trips your trigger, fine.

I spent 47 years as an office machine tech and computer tech where EVERYTHING had to be done fast. Now that I am retired I find that it is more fun to take my time and enjoy life. I no longer have to stress over speed.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
There are so many posts on telling every one what they should ride, how they should ride, where they should ride, and what they should wear. This might be fine for the .00000000001% of the world population that are professional racers.

I am 78, am not nor ever was a professional racer. I am like everyone else that is not a professional racer. I ride for the FUN of it, and health benefits. I for instance ride a recumbent and a trike, because I can actually ride all day long, and have no pain. I ride at the cadence that feels right at the time. I do not wear a "kit", in fact on my bents I can wear a t-shirt, and inexpensive rugby shorts.

OTOH I really dont care if some cyclist want to imitate professional racers if they have the money.

The reason for this post is that if someone new to cycling come here for information, take with a grain of salt that to be a "cyclist" you have to be an imitation professional. Buy any type of bike you can afford, wear what you want, and ride it the way it pleases you. HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You merely wanted to post some positive encouragement, and some how it ignited a minor flame-war. I wanted to say that I agree with the spirit of your intended message.
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Originally Posted by smarkinson View Post
I wonder if other members of different sports/hobbies waste as much time worrying about how each other do their sport/hobby.

Personally, I am a serious cyclist and I have no time for fun or fun related activities.

You should check out some bass fishing forums.
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Originally Posted by sweetman View Post
I'm 65 and started riding in January. I'm a construction guy so there was no way I was going to were spandex. Well after increasing riding to 100 miles a week and doing 60 miles 2 weekends ago, I bought my third pair of bibshorts on Father's Day. Now when I ride with my bride of 45 years on the weekend, I have to wear cargos over them, but holy cow what a game changer when it comes to comfort.
Most of us don't wear lycra because it makes us look good
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Read Bicycling magazine. The higher the price the greater the ballyhoo.

You never see the absolute fact that at a moderate price point you have all the bike you need. After that point all you are getting is name and snobbery.
Read Car and Driver or any motorhead magazine. The only automobile you need is one that has enough power to climb a hill at the speed limit and, yet, they do reviews of super cars all the time. They might do a review of a Nissan Versa but there are only so many people interested in a box with wheels.

Magazines sell dreams. What's wrong with that?
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Wear what you like and don't be judgy, but watch out for those lycra-clad people, they're a hostile exclusive hivemind.

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Wear what you like and don't be judgy, but watch out for those lycra-clad people, they're a hostile exclusive hivemind.
Who is judgmental and calling people names now?

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Who is judgmental and calling people names now?
I was being sarcastic.

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I do hear a lot about "don't buy less than a ....". C&V will help cure your carbon and alloy cravings, LOL! But it is all your choice, and your responsibility to research and make your own choices. And as a competitive runner myself to find your way to have fun in it all. That Cannondale Synapse Alloy with the Tiagra groupset does keep calling my name though....
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Outside of cities? There are plenty. People ride there in "kit" too. And they ride carbon fiber bikes...just like the pros!
Went right over your head........
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
There are so many posts on telling every one what they should ride, how they should ride, where they should ride, and what they should wear. This might be fine for the .00000000001% of the world population that are professional racers.

I am 78, am not nor ever was a professional racer. I am like everyone else that is not a professional racer. I ride for the FUN of it, and health benefits. I for instance ride a recumbent and a trike, because I can actually ride all day long, and have no pain. I ride at the cadence that feels right at the time. I do not wear a "kit", in fact on my bents I can wear a t-shirt, and inexpensive rugby shorts.

OTOH I really dont care if some cyclist want to imitate professional racers if they have the money.

The reason for this post is that if someone new to cycling come here for information, take with a grain of salt that to be a "cyclist" you have to be an imitation professional. Buy any type of bike you can afford, wear what you want, and ride it the way it pleases you. HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are absolutely correct. I am only 46 and have been serious about bicycles for over 30 of it. There is a retired fellow nearing your from europe that I cycle with who can out mile almost everyone in my area. On Sunday he did a leisurely 212 KM spin as he calls it(7642 KM, 66,813 m so far this year). He is the voice of reason in 2 of our cycling clubs and the first to turn around if someone falls behind and needs a hand or encouragement. I feel blessed to know him for his LOVE of the sport and his good natured approach in the face of 'the racers' attitude.
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Originally Posted by sweetman View Post
I'm 65 and started riding in January. I'm a construction guy so there was no way I was going to were spandex. Well after increasing riding to 100 miles a week and doing 60 miles 2 weekends ago, I bought my third pair of bibshorts on Father's Day. Now when I ride with my bride of 45 years on the weekend, I have to wear cargos over them, but holy cow what a game changer when it comes to comfort.
Cargos over bibshorts? First thing I had to do was look up bibshorts. The cargo shorts over them answers how to carry wallet, I.D., etc. Hmm, best place to buy? Amazon?
These? https://www.amazon.com/Baleaf-Mens-P...ZQ702DHQS3STRM
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