Why take the fun out of cycling.
06-19-17, 04:16 PM
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Just wanted to add my 2 cents to this thread. Here ya go.
06-19-17, 04:28 PM
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Cyclists using backpacks or camelbaks will often keep their personal stuff with those.
Shorts over bibs can work for carrying stuff, although the main point of baggy stuff over cycling shorts is usually modesty. Many cyclists prefer to not carry stuff on the legs, because the legs are moving a lot more than other parts of the body.
06-19-17, 04:37 PM
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The other day as I was coming home from work on my normal commute (on my fixie in normal clothes with a small messenger bag) one of these guys came up behind me while slowing down to cross the street, we set off and he stood up to get around me but I took off too. He stayed on my wheel for little then tried to get around me. still couldn't do it, got back in the draft and switched gears, I could hear the tires on the road as he put more power into the pedals and pulled out to the side, so I tucked down even more and kept spinning. He never was able to get around me. Finally as the bike path ended I took the normal route through town and he turned off to go a different way. I like to think in frustration that he couldn't pass a steel frame.
06-19-17, 04:37 PM
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Expressing opinions is encouraged; name calling is not. Let's watch it guys.
06-19-17, 04:44 PM
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Bibs don't tend to have much carrying capacity (sometimes there's a slot for a small electronic device) because they're usually being worn with cycling jerseys, which have 3 pockets along the back.
Cyclists using backpacks or camelbaks will often keep their personal stuff with those.
Shorts over bibs can work for carrying stuff, although the main point of baggy stuff over cycling shorts is usually modesty. Many cyclists prefer to not carry stuff on the legs, because the legs are moving a lot more than other parts of the body.
Cyclists using backpacks or camelbaks will often keep their personal stuff with those.
Shorts over bibs can work for carrying stuff, although the main point of baggy stuff over cycling shorts is usually modesty. Many cyclists prefer to not carry stuff on the legs, because the legs are moving a lot more than other parts of the body.
06-19-17, 04:44 PM
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Like a a$$ everyone has an opinion, yours is not any better or worse than anyone else's. I have read countless posts of people asking about bikes at a particular price point and they get good information MOSTLY.
06-19-17, 05:08 PM
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Nope. It didn't. Not all Dutch people ride "Dutch" bikes. For the most part they ride the crappy "Dutch" bikes because they are cheap and if one gets stolen, they just steal someone elses. It's more of a bike exchange than really stealing.
For weekend riding, they leave the Dutch bike at home.
For weekend riding, they leave the Dutch bike at home.
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06-19-17, 05:19 PM
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If I were to post in this thread, I would probably post the Orson Welles slow hand clap gif.
Yeah... that's what I'd do.
Yeah... that's what I'd do.
06-19-17, 05:22 PM
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06-19-17, 05:28 PM
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I'm 65 and started riding in January. I'm a construction guy so there was no way I was going to were spandex. Well after increasing riding to 100 miles a week and doing 60 miles 2 weekends ago, I bought my third pair of bibshorts on Father's Day. Now when I ride with my bride of 45 years on the weekend, I have to wear cargos over them, but holy cow what a game changer when it comes to comfort.
06-19-17, 05:52 PM
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Nope. It didn't. Not all Dutch people ride "Dutch" bikes. For the most part they ride the crappy "Dutch" bikes because they are cheap and if one gets stolen, they just steal someone elses. It's more of a bike exchange than really stealing.
For weekend riding, they leave the Dutch bike at home.
For weekend riding, they leave the Dutch bike at home.
A crude survey I did in Europe showed that 97% of the bikes I encountered on a popular bike route used flat bars. This was true for some really nice road bikes. I took the first 100 bikes I saw that day and categorized them into touring bikes, recreational riders, and misc. I did keep track of bar type. I only saw 3 bikes with drop bars and they were recreational riders. There were only a handful of what I would call utility bikes. I can't say that I saw any trikes the 5 months we rode there
The Netherlands. Go into almost any coffee shop a on a Saturday, and you will find a group of kitted up riders having cake and coffee.
In most of Europe the bike is part of the transportation system, and valued for their utilitarian use. This very pregnant women pulled into the grocery store parking lot with her young kid riding in a kid seat-on her bike.
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06-19-17, 06:39 PM
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While I pretty much dismiss anything the OP has to say as trolling, I do admire the numbers he manages to pull in with his nets.
06-19-17, 06:42 PM
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I'm 65 and started riding in January. I'm a construction guy so there was no way I was going to were spandex. Well after increasing riding to 100 miles a week and doing 60 miles 2 weekends ago, I bought my third pair of bibshorts on Father's Day. Now when I ride with my bride of 45 years on the weekend, I have to wear cargos over them, but holy cow what a game changer when it comes to comfort.
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06-19-17, 06:47 PM
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06-19-17, 08:21 PM
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Unless you're getting your information from a single source or a single person there is no way the consensus would have been to get 105 or don't bother. There may very well have been zealots who would have told you that, but plenty of people here, as well as writers in publications who will tell you that Sora or Tiagra are just find for entry level.
In any case, their advice panned out for me in the end. I can now fix most things on a bike, which is nicer than the folks who treat their LBS as a place to give money they dont need. It put me off buying something "better", annoyed me with new bikes and their proponents, and now I fully enjoy my $28 Schwinn Le Tour, even more than the demonstrably faster Peugeot and much lauded Miyata 610. I've got no issue being seen with steel wheels and stem shifters, and get that much more pleasure passing the folks on the annoyingly loud Cervelos on mass rides
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06-19-17, 08:24 PM
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And they still work on road bikes
06-19-17, 09:08 PM
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A while back, someone asked here on BF.net 'why not stem shifters?' and was lectured with comments like 'Bikes have evolved' or 'We've moved on' and implied that anyone with out brifters or electronic shifting is a mouth-breathing caveman, and to outfit a bike in such a manner is absurd.
I friction shift.
I ride steel frames - and one is even hi-ten!
I use freewheels.
I ride 27" wheels
I ride in hiking shorts with pockets
I ride in neon safety green t-shirts.
I have even been known to wear a reflective safety vest.
I use toe clips/straps - because I'm usually commuting in lugged-sole work boots!
My last NEW bike was 40 years ago.
And that one was bought for less than $200.
I've never spent more than $150 on a used bike.
My commuter wears a Pletscher rear rack - and has since 1977!
I measure my 'speed' the old fashioned way - distance/time. With a wristwatch.
I still move right along for an overweight and nearly 60-year-old with a 18+mph riding speed.
I stop at stop signs and traffic lights - AND wait for the green!
Putting me on one of those new uber-bikes is not going to improve my riding experience one whit. I'd probably break the damned thing with my weight on the bad roads around here... My rear blinkie wasn't up to the task and literally flew to pieces.
I'm happy where I am, and with what I've got.
Yeah, I'm a Fred. I'm a Luddite. I'm a caveman.
But I'm having FUN!
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I friction shift.
I ride steel frames - and one is even hi-ten!
I use freewheels.
I ride 27" wheels
I ride in hiking shorts with pockets
I ride in neon safety green t-shirts.
I have even been known to wear a reflective safety vest.
I use toe clips/straps - because I'm usually commuting in lugged-sole work boots!
My last NEW bike was 40 years ago.
And that one was bought for less than $200.
I've never spent more than $150 on a used bike.
My commuter wears a Pletscher rear rack - and has since 1977!
I measure my 'speed' the old fashioned way - distance/time. With a wristwatch.
I still move right along for an overweight and nearly 60-year-old with a 18+mph riding speed.
I stop at stop signs and traffic lights - AND wait for the green!
Putting me on one of those new uber-bikes is not going to improve my riding experience one whit. I'd probably break the damned thing with my weight on the bad roads around here... My rear blinkie wasn't up to the task and literally flew to pieces.
I'm happy where I am, and with what I've got.
Yeah, I'm a Fred. I'm a Luddite. I'm a caveman.
But I'm having FUN!
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06-19-17, 09:11 PM
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The road bikers around where I live are a funny sort. Expensive bike, expensive jerseys with huge logos on them all matching colors, bike, helmet, sunglasses, lycra. If your not riding an aero frame, deep wheels state of the art machine they wont even talk to you. I like the looks they give my steel frames.
The other day as I was coming home from work on my normal commute (on my fixie in normal clothes with a small messenger bag) one of these guys came up behind me while slowing down to cross the street, we set off and he stood up to get around me but I took off too. He stayed on my wheel for little then tried to get around me. still couldn't do it, got back in the draft and switched gears, I could hear the tires on the road as he put more power into the pedals and pulled out to the side, so I tucked down even more and kept spinning. He never was able to get around me. Finally as the bike path ended I took the normal route through town and he turned off to go a different way. I like to think in frustration that he couldn't pass a steel frame.
The other day as I was coming home from work on my normal commute (on my fixie in normal clothes with a small messenger bag) one of these guys came up behind me while slowing down to cross the street, we set off and he stood up to get around me but I took off too. He stayed on my wheel for little then tried to get around me. still couldn't do it, got back in the draft and switched gears, I could hear the tires on the road as he put more power into the pedals and pulled out to the side, so I tucked down even more and kept spinning. He never was able to get around me. Finally as the bike path ended I took the normal route through town and he turned off to go a different way. I like to think in frustration that he couldn't pass a steel frame.
06-19-17, 09:25 PM
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I appreciate the OP, many of us do not have any desire to compete with others...or ourselves. We just want to ride, enjoy the day, enjoy our company, enjoy the wind in our hair, etc. That is in no way saying that those who choose to wear logos, etc are not enjoying yourselves... you're just spending more doing so 
Having said that, I can assure you that he does not advocate the "wind in our hair experience". Likely you are too new to know this, but he is well known in the helmet thread. Just sayin'
06-20-17, 05:02 AM
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Nope. It didn't. Not all Dutch people ride "Dutch" bikes. For the most part they ride the crappy "Dutch" bikes because they are cheap and if one gets stolen, they just steal someone elses. It's more of a bike exchange than really stealing.
For weekend riding, they leave the Dutch bike at home.
For weekend riding, they leave the Dutch bike at home.
06-20-17, 05:15 AM
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06-20-17, 05:23 AM
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I'll fully admit the friends were the wrong people to ask for help. My point, which you seem to be missing, is that when you give people advice, sometimes they listen to it. Instead of telling beginners to be smarter, maybe the experienced should be smarter about the advice they give.
In any case, their advice panned out for me in the end. I can now fix most things on a bike, which is nicer than the folks who treat their LBS as a place to give money they dont need. It put me off buying something "better", annoyed me with new bikes and their proponents, and now I fully enjoy my $28 Schwinn Le Tour, even more than the demonstrably faster Peugeot and much lauded Miyata 610.
...And I was right with you until this:
