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Old 06-20-17, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2 View Post
It is interesting. I can't think of another hobby where every person is so actively pushed to emulate the professionals of a related sport.
Clearly you don't live in New England. Around here every other person in a bar wears a "Brady" jersey
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Old 06-20-17, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
Nor do they read BF for that matter.
Correct. It's been my experience that if you bring up Bike Forums in a conversation with a biking group, you get nothing but blank stares.
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Old 06-20-17, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
Clearly you don't live in New England. Around here every other person in a bar wears a "Brady" jersey
LOL, I can relate. I deliver goods to New England, Talk football and mention the Pats and Brady often = quick unload
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Old 06-20-17, 06:18 AM
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I despise the Patriots. They own my team... the Steelers. Until Tom Brady retires, Steelers ain't gonna do squat.
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Old 06-20-17, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
Instead of telling beginners to be smarter, maybe the experienced should be smarter about the advice they give.
Ummmm ... the advice I give is that people should be smarter. That is the smartest advice I have ever gotten, or know how to give.

I can tell someone Exactly what to buy, and be exactly Wrong.

Encouraging people to use available resources and use their own intellect and wisdom is a Bad thing now? Really?

As for the rest of your story ... did you read it?

it seems to say things worked out better for you this way than if someone had said "Buy bike X with exactly these components and wear this color jersey and stop to pee every X minutes .... "

You gained a bunch. In your own way.

What I want is to encourage Everyone to find his or her own way. "Tell me what to do" creates losers. "Help me with some information and some processing techniques" creates self-motivated individuals ... again, I have this weird notion that we were all supposed to be thinking for ourselves and making our own decisions, living our own lives by our own value systems .... what an idiot I am.

Nonetheless, i will continue to give the sort of advice which I have been giving here---I will tell people to do the research. I will also tell them to come back with more specific questions.

If you look at Actual posts where I weigh in ... as a rule I ask the OP to ask better questions. "What bike should I get?" How the fishhead should I know?

So I ask people what they want to do with a bike .... I mean seriously, when you go to the doctor does he give his diagnosis before he does an examination? Do you tell the guy, "Don't ask me my symptoms, just give me the right medicine!" ?

jefnvk, I Do carefully consider the advice I give. I give the sort of advice that will help another person help him- or herself, and will help me help that person better in the future. Sorry for you and Anybody who has a problem with that. That's my way. Cope with it, or put me on ignore. It will remain my way.
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Old 06-20-17, 07:57 AM
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So ... I guess that leaves the primary question unanswered ...

Why does Rydabent want to take the fun out of cycling?
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Old 06-20-17, 08:15 AM
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Hmm, lots of animosity brewing in this thread. You all need to get out for a bike ride. Yes, I'm including myself.
Damn computer keeping us all tied up.
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Old 06-20-17, 08:15 AM
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My past hobbies were car racing and motorcycles. They both had endless amounts of stuff that you could buy in order to "enhance" your experience.


Part of these hobbies was checking out and buying new stuff.


It's like that for cycling for me now. I'm eyeing lighter wheels, carbon frames, clipless pedals, etc. I actually enjoy the window shopping part a lot more than the buying part.
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Old 06-20-17, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
So ... I guess that leaves the primary question unanswered ...

Why does Rydabent want to take the fun out of cycling?
'Cause it's hot and humid and he can't go for a ride?
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Old 06-20-17, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
Clearly you don't live in New England. Around here every other person in a bar wears a "Brady" jersey

Who or what is Brady?

Originally Posted by DomaneS5 View Post
I despise the Patriots. They own my team... the Steelers. Until Tom Brady retires, Steelers ain't gonna do squat.

You have a team?
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Old 06-20-17, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
Who or what is Brady?




You have a team?
No. Not in this life. The Pittsburgh Steelers are my favorite NFL team. Sorry to disappoint.. but my last name is not Rooney. Been a fan since age 7... 1980. I never thought there would be a better QB than Joe Montana of the 49ers in my lifetime... but there is no question, Tom Brady is the GOAT QB.
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Old 06-20-17, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Why does Rydabent want to take the fun out of cycling?

No, that's not it. He's adding to the fun, just ask him!
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Old 06-20-17, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DomaneS5 View Post
No. Not in this life. The Pittsburgh Steelers are my favorite NFL team. Sorry to disappoint.. but my last name is not Rooney. Been a fan since age 7... 1980. I never thought there would be a better QB than Joe Montana of the 49ers in my lifetime... but there is no question, Tom Brady is the GOAT.

When I learned that "fan" was short for fanatic, that's when I decided there was no way I could ever consider myself a fan of any sports team... unless I or someone real close to me was on that team. I know, no fun. (to some)


I suppose I am a bike fan though. Go team!
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Old 06-20-17, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Wileyrat View Post
While I pretty much dismiss anything the OP has to say as trolling, I do admire the numbers he manages to pull in with his nets.
Thank you for your vote of confidence.
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When I learned that "fan" was short for fanatic, that's when I decided there was no way I could ever consider myself a fan of any sports team... unless I or someone real close to me was on that team. I know, no fun. (to some)


I suppose I am a bike fan though. Go team!
OK.. a fanatic I am. Guilty as charged.
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Old 06-20-17, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
So ... I guess that leaves the primary question unanswered ...

Why does Rydabent want to take the fun out of cycling?
Because that is what helmet nannys do.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
'Cause it's hot and humid and he can't go for a ride?
Actually I like hot humid weather. I will ride even if the temp is 100 or more.
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Old 06-20-17, 09:00 AM
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The Pittsburgh Steelers . . .Been a fan since age 7... 1980. I never thought there would be a better QB than Joe Montana of the 49ers in my lifetime... but there is no question, Tom Brady is the GOAT QB.
In 1980 I liked Dallas, they has the best cheerleaders
I can't say who the GOAT is, I don't think there is any team I have seen choke worse than the Pats, including Brady. But when they are on their game I don't think anyone can beat the current team, even if the balls are fully inflated.
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Old 06-20-17, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Actually I like hot humid weather. I will ride even if the temp is 100 or more.
Being a polar bear I melt at those temps. I visited FL in December once I nearly died.
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Old 06-20-17, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Encouraging people to use available resources and use their own intellect and wisdom is a Bad thing now? Really?
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You gained a bunch. In your own way.

What I want is to encourage Everyone to find his or her own way. "Tell me what to do" creates losers.
...
jefnvk, I Do carefully consider the advice I give. I give the sort of advice that will help another person help him- or herself, and will help me help that person better in the future. Sorry for you and Anybody who has a problem with that. That's my way. Cope with it, or put me on ignore. It will remain my way.
Nah, I can disagree with people (for the most part, in a respectable manner, I think) and not have to storm off and put them on ignore

I will agree that it is important for people to do their own research. I am simply asking people to consider the fact that the advice they give DOES get listened to, and if it is not good advice, that it can cause more harm than had they not offered any at all. That is the entirety of my message. I'm sorry this has turned into what I SHOULD have done better in my particular situation (which I more or less acknowledge before any of you told me), when my message was that beginners ask questions, if you give them bad answers, that can find bad advice to fill the bulk knowledge pool they have. If enough bad information fills a small enough knowledge base, then bad advice becomes accepted as factually correct. Once someone has a belief stuck in their mind, it is incredibly hard to change, as any number of arguments here will prove.

Encouraging people to better themselves is not bad. That applies to the beginner asking the question, but also the supposed experienced one doing answering.
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In other news... the disc brakes on my new gravel bike performed well in the rain, riding off a 2,000 ft. mountain.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Thank you for your vote of confidence.

Thank you for allowing us to have fun on our bikes, and even more for showing us how!
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Who or what is Brady?




You have a team?
My team in football is the '58 Colts and in baseball the '54 Giants.
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First off ... Brady cannot touch Joe Montana ... Bob Greise was pretty good too, though not in Joe's league.

Second ... I Hope there is no animosity in this thread ... I pretty much figured we were all sort of joking even when we were being serious.

I mean, Rydabent started it of by shouting "Crazy spandex-clad racer wannabes, get off my road!" How serious could it get after that?

And Mr. jefnvk ... thanks for your patience and your repeated clarifications. it isn't bad advice to advise people to give better advice. I will keep that in mind.
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In other news... the disc brakes on my new gravel bike performed well in the rain, riding off a 2,000 ft. mountain.
I'd think a parachute might work better.
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