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Old 06-20-17, 11:48 AM
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Replace two bikes with one? N-1?

I've been thinking about selling my current high end road bike and my entry level cross bike and buying/building a cross/road thing. One bike to replace them both. I'm just not sure if its a good idea or not.


Currently my road bike is a Fuji SST w/ Ultegra 10 speed, nice rotor cranks. Its a really nice bike, very nimble and fast, but I do have a few problems with it. I do feel like its a hair big, the geo is quite aggressive, and the ride is quite harsh. When the roads are smooth, its amazing. But those smooth roads are rare and the bike can only fit up to 25mm tires. Its really nice, I just am a bit worried that its not really the bike I need. I don't race, most of my riding is social rides, I only do about 5-10 events a year, none of which are timed or anything, and on those longer distance rides the vibrations and uncomfortable position hurts my hands and elbow and just beats me up. I did get it for an awesome price though ( only $1300 ) and its incredibly fast and effortless. I do like the speed, I like the pro-look of it, and when you hit some smooth road nothing else compares to it, the bike constantly demands to be ridden faster and faster.

My second bike is a Fuji Cross 1.5. 105 equipped, bit heavy, but the ride is great. I love love love that I can ride on the road, and just hop off into some dirt, curb hop without worrying about blowing out a tire. Its not nearly as fast or nicely equipped as my road bike, but I like the higher bottom bracket ( I like the feeling of sitting on top of the bike rather than in it ) The wide tire choices are nice, and its a bike I really feel like I can beat on and not have to worry about it.

I've been thinking about selling both and just building/buying a cross bike frame that can pull double duty.

I'd say currently about 75% of my riding is in a social pace, where the wider road tires on the cross bike allow me to go anywhere the ride may go without having to dismount for curbs. Its not unusual to take some gravel running paths, cross some grassy fields, and things like that to get where we need to go.

Thinking of buying a cheap carbon frame from PlanetX to keep things lightish ( and i love the color scheme ) and move my current cross's 105 group to the new frame, pair it with some road tubeless wheels. I'd probably change the cheap crank I have now to a matching 105 road crank, something with a little more range than what I have now. I'd have a set of cross tires, wider road tires for most of my riding, then some skinny 25's or 28's for when I want to do fast riding. I've also considered just stripping my road bikes nice parts, and moving them to a cross frame, which would make a really good bike, and If I needed to, I could build it back up into the road set up

As for the road bike, the store I bought it from has a pretty generous return policy, and would take it back minus any damage or signs of wear ( its basically like new ) even if they depreciate it a little bit, I'd probably get a better return than selling it on the used market.


I like the idea of having just one bike for a few reasons, keeps things simple, I live in a tiny 400 sq ft apartment so it would help save space. I kinda feel bad about spending money on a bike thats not being ridden often, or to its potential.

I'm wondering if this is a good idea, as to me, it seems like a great bike that would fit most of the riding I do. If anyone else has done or considered doing something similar. Or if you have any suggestions about the best and cheapest way to go about it all.

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Old 06-20-17, 12:25 PM
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I'm wondering if this is a good idea, as to me, it seems like a great bike that would fit most of the riding I do. If anyone else has done or considered doing something similar. Or if you have any suggestions about the best and cheapest way to go about it all.
TLDR, but this is a very bad idea, blasphemous, in fact. What you should do is ask the BF mass for forgiveness for even entertaining the thought, and then perform ten hail-maries. The best you can do is replace one of them with another more expensive one.
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Old 06-20-17, 12:27 PM
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Seems like your current cross bike is capable to do everything you want to do. Sell the other one, keep the cross one.
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Old 06-20-17, 12:30 PM
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I'm down to only two bikes of my own now (although the garage has at least 12). Having more than one wheel-set on an off/on road bike can really help. I personally want no fewer than two, in case one is in the shop or incapacitated (or if I am too lazy to take my off-road wheels off).
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Old 06-20-17, 12:38 PM
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Hmmm, it seems like you have the ultimate setup already, with two bikes for two types of riding.

A few years ago, I tried to pick out a "do it all" bike, but there were too many tradeoffs and compromises. I ended up getting two bikes.

1. a fast road bike for the spirited club rides. I have the bars set high enough that I can comfortably ride in the drops. For comfort, GP4000 tires on wide rims, effectively 26mm wide.

So at 170 pounds, I use 80-85 psi front, and 95-100 psi rear. And cushy Specialized bar tape. It's quite decent on rough chip-seal roads, and a blast to ride.

2. a gravel / adventure / century / light-touring bike. It has fenders and a rear rack.
I use anywhere from 29mm to 40mm wide tires, so it's great for all-day self-supported rides on the narrower tires, or gravel roads with the wide tires.
The bars are a little higher, and the gearing goes much lower.
This bike is comfy and really nice on any epic solo rides, but not as much fun on fast club rides.

A tiny apartment? a tower bike rack to stack the two. Perhaps ceiling hooks to hang them upside down (if it's allowed.)

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Old 06-20-17, 01:40 PM
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Just bought a new bike that could do it all for me.(with a spare set of rims and different tires) That is, if I didn't love it so much. So I will keep my old bike for a beater. One bike would be perfect in a perfect world. One where chains don't break, and thieves don't steal and snow and salt don't rust up the chain (see chains breaking) Maybe when the honeymoons over I will start to beat it like I just don't care, but for now it's two for me.
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well to be fair, i live in texas where winter is the main riding season, and I also have a steel fixed gear that I use for tooting around for when I need something to ride when my other bikes are down or to bar hop or w/e.
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Why not buy one bike with two wheelsets?

One fat for cross and one skinny for road?
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Old 06-20-17, 02:59 PM
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I tried to replace my Roubaix and mtb with a cross bike. A year later and I have my cross bike and a road bike. They both have their place to me. The cross can do it all, and it sports 32mm road tires. It's my gravel grinder, trainer, and my vacation rig. But I missed the dedicated road rig.
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One bike is a compromise. Two bikes, less of a compromise. Three bikes, even less so. Less is not more! Don't compromise.
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Just one bike-----------------naw. In my case I ride bents, and I have a bent bike and a trike. That way I have the best tool for the ride at hand.
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I'm considering the same thing. Selling my Roubaix Comp and Scott Hybrid and getting something like the Diverge or a carbon Sirrus. I love the Roubaix but prefer light trail rides so I'm not riding it as much as I should. I started on the Scott 5 years ago and still tend to ride and commute with it more, but it's a heavy tank.

A Diverge seems to offer all that I'll need in one bike.
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Build one bike to do it all seeing that's what you want. Next time you get bored, you will create a 'need' and build a bike to fill it, that's the way we work and it's all part of the fun.
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From the OP it sounds to me like it's a reasonable decision. If you had said you want to crush the local roadie ride but also explore chunky gravel on the same bike, I'd say no way you'll be sorely disappointed. But for a social rider I think having one bike for multiple tasks is a good idea. This also makes bike maintenance super cheap and easy... Sometimes I really miss having just one bike to rule them all.

EDIT: Last year I sold my road bike and got an AWOL to be my do-it-all bike. Turns out I missed the fast group rides and the AWOL is kind of a dog. No it's a goddamn elephant. so I ended up buying a new road bike a few months later. I really like the idea of the Diverge as a one-bike solution for fast road plus gravel... I think that's the bike I would choose next time for a multi-tasker.
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I'm currently in an N=1 state but I've come to the realization that the perfect number of bikes for me would be N=2. I have a steel gravel grinder with two pairs of tyres that I use for everything, but it has a couple of downsides (no backup bike when it's on repairs, a pain to change pedals when I don't feel like wearing my spd shoes, etc). I'd be happy with my do it all road bike + a hybrid bike, but don't have the space ):

The Specialized Diverge sounds like it could be a good N=1 bike for OP.
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Old 07-06-17, 07:44 AM
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I have been thinking about this a great deal myself. Two different bikes with such different purpose and feel that getting a desired ride from both may be hard.....I am gathering up the financial fortitude to go talk to a local builder about it.
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Unless I lose interest in mountain biking, it would be difficult for me to go below N=2. My vaya just isn't the best bike for single track.
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I tried this a while back but it did not work for me. The do-everything bike had a weaker engine and I couldn't do group riding much anymore on the road and keep up, and the pilot was not capable enough to stay with the off road types I ride with. A purpose only bike can make up for deficiencies elsewhere IMO.
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