Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
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Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first

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The relatively narrow and hard saddles are more comfortable.
"Big cushioned seats" are uncomfortable ... way too much friction.
"Big cushioned seats" are uncomfortable ... way too much friction.
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Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first

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Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first

From my evolved experience, bike seats have many designs and are based on the utility of the type of bike and rider. A racer who leads forward requires very little surface for which to sit, while a more upright riding position like a beach cruiser can benefit from a wider surface and more give usually produced by springs. Those more upright saddles do not have as pronounced of a point.
The hardness of the seat is necessary due to the activity of pumping your legs and needing a stable platform that does not bounce around. I think of a bike seat the same as a good roping saddle where both appear hard until you use one and know how to sit properly.
The place where you sit on a bike seat needs only to be a small relatively flat surface for accomplishing the task. Most riders, me included, had to evolve and come to understand how to adjust the saddle so that they are only sitting on this flat surface. I had to raise the nose of the saddle slightly upward to find this sweet spot.
To address this sweet spot, if this area was heavily padded, it would make no difference since I would sink down anyway and the extra material just get in the way. It would make it harder to move around without lifting my rear.
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A properly fit hard seat that supports your sitbones properly is way more comfortable than a big ol' thickly padded cushioned seat with springs.
I don't even notice the seat anymore when riding.
I don't even notice the seat anymore when riding.
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14# bike + 14# 'seat" = 28#
When I want soft and comfy... I take a break.

When I want soft and comfy... I take a break.


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too big a seat causes pain on the area just ahead of your sit points, from the rocking of the pedal stroke. for longer rides. as i have discovered. notwithstaanding that, you need a seat at least as wide as your sit points, which in my case, are relatively wide.
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A lot of things I hadn't considered 
I actually have no problem with my hard thin seat, just thought that a big cushioned one would be nice.
Now I don't think so

I actually have no problem with my hard thin seat, just thought that a big cushioned one would be nice.
Now I don't think so

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Soft saddlesput pressure on the soft tissues and cause great pain on longer rides. Harder saddles keep the pressure on your sitbones where it should be.
That's also why horse saddles are so hard.
That's also why horse saddles are so hard.
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I rode a comfort style cruiser all over New Orleans on vacation this past winter, with a big cushy sprung seat. It was the most uncomfortable bike ride I've ever been on. Or, maybe more pointedly, my friends that tell me my bottom will be sore on my hard leather saddle are the ones done with their bikes after three miles on their cushy saddle, while I'm barely warmed up and plenty comfortable.
Once you are used to hard saddles, you realize why they exist. It is hard to describe to someone who hasn't used them, but they are more comfortable. If you need padding, put it in your shorts.
Once you are used to hard saddles, you realize why they exist. It is hard to describe to someone who hasn't used them, but they are more comfortable. If you need padding, put it in your shorts.
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Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first

Wider seats will chafe like you would not believe on longer rides, and the padding on softer ones will put pressure on places you really don't want to over long periods of time. And there's some control issues too if you're riding more technical stuff.
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Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first

https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...rch=brooks+b17
Those tiny saddles are made for those who wear diapers.
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Do you know why the tdf guys ride skinny hard seats? Because they are more comfortable. And they are lighter. For me, I need a little bigger saddle than that, plus I need a cutout so my prostate stays happy. The skinny ones are harder to get used to but once you do you'll never go back.
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I used to ride padded saddles. Then I went to less padded saddles with a thin gel layer. I finally bought a Brooks - it nearly killed me breaking it in - but now I love it. I'm not aware of my butt at all anymore until I hit around 40 miles, then I need a short break. If I wore padded shorts, I could go longer but I hate that feeling. If I had to do it again, I'd buy the pre-aged Brooks to save myself a bit of pain, but I'd get another Brooks. I've kept my padded saddle as a spare for emergencies but now I wonder how I rode on it. Otoh, while I'd like the lower weight of those streamlined saddles, I'm thinking the Brooks is the sweet spot since I do not ride in the drops.
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ILTB showed a Brooks with springs underneath. So it's still firm on the top so you don't sink in, but it has give if you ride over a bump or pot-hole. My understanding is those are for more upright bikes where most of your weight is on your saddle, as opposed to sportier bikes where you lean forward and a bit more of the weight is on your feet and hands. I had a B72, or maybe a B67, which has a little bit of springiness, on an older hybrid bike I had.
There are multiple Brooks models. The B17 is the standard utility saddle - not super narrow for racing, but not sprung for upright riding
I used to ride padded saddles. Then I went to less padded saddles with a thin gel layer. I finally bought a Brooks - it nearly killed me breaking it in - but now I love it. I'm not aware of my butt at all anymore until I hit around 40 miles, then I need a short break. If I wore padded shorts, I could go longer but I hate that feeling. If I had to do it again, I'd buy the pre-aged Brooks to save myself a bit of pain, but I'd get another Brooks. I've kept my padded saddle as a spare for emergencies but now I wonder how I rode on it. Otoh, while I'd like the lower weight of those streamlined saddles, I'm thinking the Brooks is the sweet spot since I do not ride in the drops.
Last edited by cooker; 07-18-17 at 01:26 PM.
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ILTB showed a Brooks with springs underneath. So it's still firm on the top so you don't sink in, but it has give if you ride over a bump or pot-hole. My understanding is those are for more upright bikes where most of your weight is on your saddle, as opposed to sportier bikes where you lean forward and a bit more of the weight is on your feet and hands. I had a B72, or maybe a B67, which has a little bit of springiness, on an older hybrid bike I had.There are multiple Brooks models. The B17 is the standard utility saddle - not super narrow for racing, but not sprung for upright riding
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Why are many bike seats skinny and hard?
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first
I would think a big cushioned seat would be the most comfortable but so many are these thin pointy seats with a gap in the centre.
Is it aerodynamics? weight? big seats too hot?
I want to buy a big comfy seat but want to know if there are downsides first



I, however, am still the fat cushiony saddle, a total pain in the ass.
Last edited by tagaproject6; 07-18-17 at 05:10 PM.
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ILTB showed a Brooks with springs underneath. So it's still firm on the top so you don't sink in, but it has give if you ride over a bump or pot-hole. My understanding is those are for more upright bikes where most of your weight is on your saddle, as opposed to sportier bikes where you lean forward and a bit more of the weight is on your feet and hands. I had a B72, or maybe a B67, which has a little bit of springiness, on an older hybrid bike I had.There are multiple Brooks models. The B17 is the standard utility saddle - not super narrow for racing, but not sprung for upright riding