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Fastfingaz 07-31-17 08:41 AM

General question for you
 
The BBI, Barnett bicycle institute sent article on bicycle mechanics it appears that they filled their July class with all women in effort to bring women into what is now predominantly male career, so of course the question is ,would you be confident in women wrenching on your bikes,,,,, just for General discussion,,,,

indyfabz 07-31-17 08:45 AM

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_ForceD_ 07-31-17 08:51 AM

As long as she's H-O-T and does it in a string bikini. (kidding)

Seriously, women have worked on my car so there's no reason that I wouldn't want/trust them working on my bicycles. Presumably if they're wrenching in a LBS she's been vetted to prove she knows what she's doing. But, I do all my own work on my bikes so it's a non-issue for me (IMO shouldn't be an issue for anyone really).

Dan

alcjphil 07-31-17 08:57 AM

The best bike mechanic I have ever met is a woman. In fact she teaches bike mechanics and has worked as a mechanic for several professional teams

dabac 07-31-17 08:58 AM

Really?
I've been in the hands of female drivers, pilots, Skippers, doctors, electricians etc etc.
Why on Earth should I have any objections to female bike mechanics?
Only thing I can think of is when removing something badly stuck.
Since Male average weight//strength is higher, a Male mechanic might do better with stuck BBs, seat posts and freewheels.

longbeachgary 07-31-17 09:05 AM

Welcome back to 1950.

jefnvk 07-31-17 09:06 AM

Probably not.

Then again, I don't trust my bike in the hands of male mechanics around me, either. I'm sure good ones exist, but most around me look to be high school/college kids that I can't imagine have that much more experience than me, especially on systems that aren't modern.

To be honest, though, most people I've seen leave stuff for mechanics have little clue as to who the actual mechanic working on their bike is, so I don't see why it would be an issue. Or, why one would care to begin with, it is not 1950.

Fastfingaz 07-31-17 09:08 AM

Ok then,, I had never met a female mechanics according to BBI there will be more working at lbs and maybe opening their own shops after certification,,, just for General Discussion,,,,

MNBikeCommuter 07-31-17 09:08 AM

Speechless....

rachel120 07-31-17 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by dabac (Post 19757337)
Only thing I can think of is when removing something badly stuck.
Since Male average weight//strength is higher, a Male mechanic might do better with stuck BBs, seat posts and freewheels.

WD-40 and leverage. And next time you go by a construction site, look at the women on the crew lifting those 50 pound boxes of nails like they were lifting a box of feathers and cotton balls.

indyfabz 07-31-17 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by rachel120 (Post 19757375)
And next time you go by a construction site, look at the women on the crew lifting those 50 pound boxes of nails like they were lifting a box of feathers and cotton balls.


:thumb: I happen to work across the street from the site where, for years, Comcast has been building its new technology skyscraper. Many women doing tough jobs right alongside men.

jefnvk 07-31-17 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Fastfingaz (Post 19757369)
Ok then,, I had never met a female mechanics according to BBI there will be more working at lbs and maybe opening their own shops after certification,,, just for General Discussion,,,,

There's at least one that works (worked?) at a PB by me. I'd trust her more than most of the guys I've talked to that works there.

indyfabz 07-31-17 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Fastfingaz (Post 19757369)
I had never met a female mechanics


I have never met a female neurosurgeon, but if I did I wouldn't wonder whether or not she is competent simply because she's a woman.


See the issue with your thread for "general discussion" (as opposed to specific discussion?)?


Or are you just trolling?

rachel120 07-31-17 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 19757419)
Or are you just trolling?

That's what I was thinking.

North Coast Joe 07-31-17 09:32 AM

I find it hard to believe that this is even a THOUGHT in anyone's mind in this time!

Maybe it's because I worked in an industry that's dominated by women (showjumping horses) where the men were the minority and were hard pressed to beat the numbers and talent of females.

dabac 07-31-17 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by rachel120 (Post 19757375)
WD-40 and leverage. And next time you go by a construction site, look at the women on the crew lifting those 50 pound boxes of nails like they were lifting a box of feathers and cotton balls.

So?

Odds are, there'll be a couple of guys around picking up two at a time w/o straining.

Look, I don't think it's a problem. The shop I recommend for IGHs is run by a woman. Method can often compensate for weight/strength.
But sometimes, weight/strength can sure come in handy.
And the average male has more of that than the average female.

Any task not related to huge amounts of torque, I wouldn't care.

To me, it's no different than picking a shop depending on tooling.
There's one shop that doesn't ever use tensiometers. I'd never send anyone there for anything wheel related.
But they do OK suspension work.
There's another that has the fairly rare tools for facing disc brake mounts. If that's what I need, there's where I'd go.
If there was a shop employing an ex-Sumo, or maybe a female shot putter, those would probably be high on the list for stuck BBs and similar.

Fastfingaz 07-31-17 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by jefnvk (Post 19757364)
Probably not.

Then again, I don't trust my bike in the hands of male mechanics around me, either. I'm sure good ones exist, but most around me look to be high school/college kids that I can't imagine have that much more experience than me, especially on systems that aren't modern.

To be honest, though, most people I've seen leave stuff for mechanics have little clue as to who the actual mechanic working on their bike is, so I don't see why it would be an issue. Or, why one would care to begin with, it is not 1950.

I was born in 1950 and it was a mighty good year,,,,,

Fastfingaz 07-31-17 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by rachel120 (Post 19757431)
That's what I was thinking.

It was meant to be a benign question form a legitimate article but,, whatever you make of it is fine,,, I think I feel how Trump feels now,,,,

AlexanderLS 07-31-17 09:58 AM

I would actually have an issue with it.
My concern would be with bolt tension, or more specifically the lack of proper bolt tension. I don't want a bike falling apart because the female mechanic lacked the strength/body mass to adequately torque the bolts. I'd be ok with a female mechanic assisting the main mechanic with things like changing tires as long as she is not the one tightening bolts requiring high nm.

Even so, I'd feel like I had to check/torque all bolts every time I got a bike out of a LBS who had a female mechanic which would make me a hell of a lot less likely to go there.

Maelochs 07-31-17 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by dabac (Post 19757447)
But sometimes, weight/strength can sure come in handy.
And the average male has more of that than the average female.

Good lord some folks are (deleted to avoid ban.)

I have done my own bike work fro decades. I am a lot weaker now than I was then ... I am probably weaker than an "average" woman. That's why I use my brain, and a breaker bar.

Most jobs on a bicycle, if you need more strength than that you are doing it wrong.

Also ... a woman who is doing hard labor is not an "average" woman, and would certainly have as much strength as was needed to do the job. And for some of those jobs, and "average" man wouldn't have enough strength either, but like the woman, would develop it.

I guess some guys are afraid off strong women and avoid them ... and then claim they don't exist.

You ought to go the Gold's gym where I am a member. See how strong women can be if they care to be. Might be too scary for you though ...

AlexanderLS 07-31-17 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 19757523)
You ought to go the Gold's gym where I am a member. See how strong women can be if they care to be. Might be too scary for you though ...

Nobody here is doubting the power of steroids.
Women taking steroids are not really women anymore anyways.
Steroids are basically testosterone aka the male hormone.

jefnvk 07-31-17 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by AlexanderLS (Post 19757503)
Even so, I'd feel like I had to check/torque all bolts every time I got a bike out of a LBS who had a female mechanic which would make me a hell of a lot less likely to go there.

And the 130# high school boy DOES have the muscle?

According to Park Tools, the highest torque spec required on a bike is around 60 ft-lbs or 75Nm. Even the most diminutive female should be able to do that without too much effort. http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...icle-section-4

AlexanderLS 07-31-17 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by jefnvk (Post 19757541)
And the 130# high school boy DOES have the muscle?

According to Park Tools, the highest torque spec required on a bike is around 60 ft-lbs or 75Nm. Even the most diminutive female should be able to do that without too much effort. Torque Specifications and Concepts | Park Tool

All the women I know ask for help moving anything heavier than 20 lbs.
A male highschooler can carry considerably more weight than any high school girl. You assume that said female mechanic will not hire high school girls, which is silly and unlikely.

Again, I'd feel the need to check/torque all bolts. I suspect most men coming into a LBS with a female lead mechanic would feel the same way.

Lazyass 07-31-17 10:16 AM

I don't discriminate. I wouldn't trust man or woman wrenching on my bikes. No one else ever has and never will.

Fastfingaz 07-31-17 10:18 AM

The question wasn't , is a woman strong enough to be a bicycle mechanic,


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