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Old 08-19-17, 01:42 PM
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Bike Shoes

Been riding bikes for 50+ years, but have no experience with bike shoes or cleats. I have two road bikes with toe clips and a mountain bike with bare pedals. The only shoes I have that will actually fit into the toe clips are a ripped up old pair of sneakers plus it can be awkward to get my feet into the clips on the fly, so would like to switch to bike shoes. A couple of questions:

1) Can cleats be added to existing pedals, or would I need to get new pedals?
2) Can one pair of shoes be used for road bikes and mountain bikes?
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1. You need to get new pedals. There are multiple brands and types. There are fanboys for all types.
2. There is no reason not to use the same pedals on all of your bikes so you can use one pair of cycling shoes.
3. You need to buy shoes that accommodate the type of cleat that your chosen pedal requires
4. Cleats are generally sold with pedals, so you won't need to purchase them separately.

I'm sure others will chime in with something more detailed.
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You need new pedals, but they are cheap if you go Shimano SPD. 3 sets should be under $100 easily if you don't get sucked into buying the "performance" ones
One set of shoes is fine.

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Originally Posted by fritz1255
Been riding bikes for 50+ years, but have no experience with bike shoes or cleats. I have two road bikes with toe clips and a mountain bike with bare pedals. The only shoes I have that will actually fit into the toe clips are a ripped up old pair of sneakers plus it can be awkward to get my feet into the clips on the fly, so would like to switch to bike shoes. A couple of questions:

1) Can cleats be added to existing pedals, or would I need to get new pedals?
2) Can one pair of shoes be used for road bikes and mountain bikes?
1. You will need new pedals. The cleats come supplied with the pedals. (not the shoes)

2. I would suggest starting out with mountain pedals and cleats. Something like the Shimano M-324 is a great starter pedal, as it has a nice, flat pedal on one side, SPD on the other so you don't have to use clipless pedals when you ride. https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-PD-M3.../dp/B00AZ2OID8

Alternately, you could dive in with two sided pedals, but then you have to use cycling shoes when you ride. If you go this route, the Shimano 520, M530, or 540 are great entry level choices. https://www.backcountry.com/shimano-...yABEgKjDPD_BwE

As for shoes, you need to get shoes that fit the two bolt SPD cleat. Which one is a matter of fit. Some brands fit narrow, others a little bit wider, so you need to try out some shoes to see what works for you.

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Get trail runner hiking shoes and stay with the toe clip pedals with straps, except for the mtb. You can go platform pedals there, and wear the trail runners on everything.
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Originally Posted by fritz1255
Been riding bikes for 50+ years, but have no experience with bike shoes or cleats. I have two road bikes with toe clips and a mountain bike with bare pedals. The only shoes I have that will actually fit into the toe clips are a ripped up old pair of sneakers plus it can be awkward to get my feet into the clips on the fly, so would like to switch to bike shoes. A couple of questions:

1) Can cleats be added to existing pedals, or would I need to get new pedals?
2) Can one pair of shoes be used for road bikes and mountain bikes?
Another reason reason to use clipless pedals is the consistency of release from the pedal that you do not have with toe clips and straps.
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No need to replace the pedals. The Yellow Jersey Bike Shop in Arlington, WI has new made cleats for toe cage pedals that fit modern shoes with LOOK and SPD bolt patterns. BTW, I am not affiliated with YJBS in any way but ride with toe cages and my 30 year old Detto's are getting toward the end of their life so I needed to find an alternative source for the cleats. I ride an '84 Peugeot and have no plans to change to clipless when my Detto's finally give up the ghost.
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Old 08-20-17, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon T
No need to replace the pedals. The Yellow Jersey Bike Shop in Arlington, WI has new made cleats for toe cage pedals that fit modern shoes with LOOK and SPD bolt patterns. BTW, I am not affiliated with YJBS in any way but ride with toe cages and my 30 year old Detto's are getting toward the end of their life so I needed to find an alternative source for the cleats. I ride an '84 Peugeot and have no plans to change to clipless when my Detto's finally give up the ghost.
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Actually I was looking to go the other way - convert my present toe clip pedals into clipless, but I guess that would take a VERY specialized piece of hardware.
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Originally Posted by fritz1255
Actually I was looking to go the other way - convert my present toe clip pedals into clipless, but I guess that would take a VERY specialized piece of hardware.
Have you seen clipless pedals? A starting point for you might be to go to a bicycle shop and have a look at some options.
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Youngsters don't notice these things ,but, a traditional cycling shoe is still made by hand at https://reynolds-england.com/

they are useful with toeclips and platform pedals...

but an arch support insole that is stiff, can make most shoes into adequate cycling shoes.. a smoother sole slips into toe clip pedals,
but without the toe clip a coarser traction sole can be utilized.





But;
1) Can cleats be added to existing pedals, or would I need to get new pedals?
traditionally the cleat was nailed on the shoe sole, (or the sole made with ridges to give grip on the pedal)

but now with shoes compatible with Shimano's SPD system
the shoe has a recessed pocket, and a set of threaded nuts for the 2 screws that attach the cleat that comes with the pedal.

2) Can one pair of shoes be used for road bikes and mountain bikes?
People use the Mountain bike shoes with a lugged sole and the recessed SPD cleat, on bike tours on the road all the time..

Because, the cleat recesses, in the pocket, the metal cleat will be at the surface of the shoe sole.. it can be walked on.

But on a tour , I'd bring extra walkabout shoes to save wear and tear on the metal cleat, and the stiffness of a bike shoe
may not be as suitable walking around for a longer time, in them. - sightseeing, museum floors, etc.

but stopping for lunch , other than the clicking of the metal cleat on hard floors, they are walk-able..








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The main problem with cycling shoes is the fact that they are all too narrow. What about us that have EE or EEE width feet?
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Rocket 7.. they are a custom made to your foot bike shoe company. in Colorado [always have a classified ad in Velo News]
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If you want to keep your existing pedals get some run-of-the-mill bike shoes. They will fit into your toe clips.

However, I would advise you to get some SPD platform-type pedals with clips and some cross-over bike shoes. That way you can use the shoes with any kind of bike. I have a pair of Giro shoes that look like road shoes on the outside but are actually mountain bikes shoes. They work great for road rides and the extra float of the SPD pedals and cleats is easier on my 59 year old knees.

I still ride toe clips on my old Raleigh and use the Giro shoes. They work well.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
The main problem with cycling shoes is the fact that they are all too narrow. What about us that have EE or EEE width feet?
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Originally Posted by rydabent
The main problem with cycling shoes is the fact that they are all too narrow. What about us that have EE or EEE width feet?
Shimano makes a lot of their shoes in a wide width. I'm a 4E and am comfortable in their shoes.
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Originally Posted by fritz1255
Been riding bikes for 50+ years, but have no experience with bike shoes or cleats. I have two road bikes with toe clips and a mountain bike with bare pedals. The only shoes I have that will actually fit into the toe clips are a ripped up old pair of sneakers plus it can be awkward to get my feet into the clips on the fly, so would like to switch to bike shoes. A couple of questions:

1) Can cleats be added to existing pedals, or would I need to get new pedals?
2) Can one pair of shoes be used for road bikes and mountain bikes?
Bike shoes typically have a stiffer sole then a running shoe or light hiking boot, thus provides for better support for your foot while cycling. Mt. Bike shoes are somewhat all purpose as they have rubber lugs and a recessed pedal cleat that makes them comfortable for walking. A mt. shoe designed for the Shimano SPD system usually has a cover over the cleat mounting plate, so if you just want to use as stiffer shoes without a special mt. SPD pedal, you can do so.

Then if you choose to go the clipless route, you just buy the pedals, install the cleats (they come with the pedals), and practice a bit before riding in traffic. As BTW, the SPD pedal installs as replacement to regular platform pedals. The cleat installs on the shoe and engages a spring loaded retention system on both sides of the pedal. The spring tension can be set for easy release or release tension can be increased as per your comfort level.

The Shimano SPD pedals can be had in a variety of types and can be purchased for $25 or so. The dual sided pedals are what I use as it's easy to just step on the pedal and engage. Once you buy a pair of shoes, they can be used on all the bikes that have that SPD pedal.
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He also showed me a bike I now want hahaha Dad! Mom says let’s go!
Originally Posted by fritz1255
Been riding bikes for 50+ years, but have no experience with bike shoes or cleats
I’m up in Burly VT for college drop off & got permission to visit an outdoor store to browse bike stuff talked to an active young man w two broken collar bones one from skiing one from mtb’ing that one requiring surgery& nice big scare. He was very helpful showing me a cpl pairs of shoes. I currently have lake brand mtb shoes that I use on road bike and rugged hybrids w half clips no cleats

theyve been great

just started trying cleated pedals and so added cleats to these same shoes. I’m working on getting them adjusted, meaning cleat position so it was good to talk to him in person about that to confirm what I’m doing.

my current shoes have a relatively flexible sole but he showed me some ‘five ten’ brand shoes ‘kestral’ Model which have a RIGID sole which might provide some advantages and be more comfortable while riding, not so much while walking. None my size to try and I was being beconed to leave the store

long story short - go check out shoes in person and talk to an experienced person and try some shoes on rather than buying over the internet

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I think in the year since he posted the question he probably made a decision.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
I think in the year since he posted the question he probably made a decision.
oh yikes just started using an iPhone for forum while traveling guess I missed that op date oops
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