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Old 09-01-17, 05:31 PM
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Handheld Electric vs Manual Pump

Im going to buy a small pump to use during travels but i cannot decide between rechargeable mini pump and a manual pump.

https://www.amazon.com/ENGREPO-Hand-.../dp/B01M2ZY5D9

This one is rechargeable. Any experiences with it?

Also the other option is Topeak Turbo Morph..

Are electric inflators good and practical?
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Old 09-01-17, 07:48 PM
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Looks to be heavier than the Morph pumps - I am currently using a Road Morph which works very well and is smaller and lighter than the Engrepo. Plus, the Road Morph, like the other Morph models, never needs recharging. I have never used an electric pump or compressor for bike tires.
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Old 09-01-17, 07:51 PM
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Buy the Topeak. Any of their Morph line of pumps are great.

Barring being in a garage, physical disability, or racing applications, manual pumps are simply the answer. They never run out of air.
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Old 09-01-17, 10:28 PM
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Is there any physical limitations that would prevent you from being about to use a mini pump?

I have no experience with the rechargeable pump, it looks pretty slick but IMO a tool that's meant to get me home instead of leaving me stranded should adhere to the K.I.S.S. rule. I carry a cheap mini pump that I bought after the first flat I wasn't equipped to fix, that's worked every time I've needed it. I no longer carry the smaller, lighter and more expensive CO2 inflator that failed to inflate my tube the first time I needed it. I was glad I had left me mini pump in my saddle bag, never felt the need to order more CO2 cartridges.
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Old 09-02-17, 05:57 AM
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If you're looking for fast and easy, I carry three co2 cartridges and an Air Innovations Elite inflator. It's never failed me out on the road.

I keep thinking about carrying a mini pump, but I'm getting old and lazy, and they just seem to be a lot of work.
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Old 09-02-17, 06:10 AM
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Carrying pumps of any kind is not just about you. Its about the other riders who may need your assistance. Yes, even those riders who "should have" been more prepared.
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Old 09-02-17, 06:49 AM
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Carrying pumps of any kind is not just about you. Its about the other riders who may need your assistance. Yes, even those riders who "should have" been more prepared.
Thanks for the lecture, I'll be sure to think about that the next time I'm buying co2 to replace the cartridges I gave to those that "should have" been more prepared.

Fwiw, if I see someone pumping with a mini pump, I won't offer co2 assistance.
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Old 09-02-17, 08:53 AM
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The cordless inflator is a neat tool, but I don't see it as a bring-along bike tool, even if you're loaded touring. Too big, too heavy. Might be nice to have in the garage / bike room.

If a mini-pump seems like too much work get a CO2 inflator. The pay-to-play aspect of CO2 inflators always rubbed me the wrong way, though, so I have pumps.
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Old 09-02-17, 10:10 AM
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Cordless inflator, no competition. I can see with near certainty that no one in this thread has ever used one, as they did not recommend one-- but I also think most misread the topic, which asked for an option to use when traveling, not while riding. ANY mini pump will have you hating yourself and your decisions by the third tire. I've been using a Ryobi Inflator for about 2 years now, and haven't touched the floor pump once since the Ryobi came home. The one you linked is much smaller and likely lighter than my Ryobi, but I don't reckon that's really your concern-- the battery in mine goes 3+ weeks between charges, being used multiple times every day to take tires to 100psi. Topping a 700x25 from 80 to 100psi takes a matter of seconds. Any time we're not riding from home, the cordless inflator goes in the car.

The one you linked to looks promising-- set the pressure and walk away. I'm a big fan of the drill-style inflators, but I already had batteries, so it made the $20 Ryobi a no-brainer. I'd give the $40 rechargeable deal a shot-- it's Amazon, you can always return it if it's terrible. But if it took even as long as 30 seconds to top off a tire, the handsfree operation would make it a solid option.
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If you're too lazy to pump up a tire you are too lazy to ride.

I've heard the electric pumps work best with electric bikes. Latest ones have plug-ins to recharge the pump while riding. That way you don't have to pedal or pump a tire!
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Old 09-02-17, 10:35 AM
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Ahh yes, how could a forget the machismo inherent to pumping up a tire.

While you're at it, don't forget to mock anyone riding an aero frame, because it (supposedly) makes it easier to go faster.
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Old 09-02-17, 10:35 AM
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What's the world coming to? Electric pump to inflate a bike tire?
Floor pump will take shorter time.

You don't need to carry a mini frame pump....they make longer ones ya, know.
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Old 09-02-17, 10:39 AM
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The concept of a powered air pump for someone who bikes is beyond my comprehension. How far off can your pressure be between rides that manually pumping is even a concern?

BTW, I also use my manual pump for my cars because I refuse to pay for air. But that's another topic.
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Old 09-02-17, 11:40 AM
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It depends on what you're looking for.

That electric pump is going to be heavy which is a major downside. If you're looking a just wanting to top the tires up every 2-3 days, a decent hand pump like the Top Peak Morph series is going to be lighter and more robust. For emergency use, CO2 canisters are the way to go. And there's always the Schrader adapter + gas station approach.

The weight is listed at 1lbs, while the Top Peak is 280g, so likely half the weight and you never have to worry about recharging. I can see the advantage as a trail head pump, since it's smaller and lighter than a standard floor pump.

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Old 09-02-17, 11:52 AM
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I don't see electric as being practical for either home or road. Floor stand pumps are great for home and don't require much effort to use. The electric could be used for both home and road, but the reviews on that are not awe inspiring. It's heavy, bulky and it is also likely to fail. The Topeak Road Morph and Lezyne Road Drive are both highly recommended. If you lack physical strength look for larger model pumps that have larger volumes and require fewer strokes to pump up a tire. Also CO2 cartridges require zero strength, but you need to practice at home to make sure you can fill up a tire and not add to global warming :-)

I go on longer rides (50+ mi) and don't have an SO to rescue me. I carry a single spare tube, CO2 + mini pump + patch kit when I ride so that I can deal with multiple tube failures.
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Old 09-02-17, 12:51 PM
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Why the hell is everyone talking about weight? How is a typical floor pump lighter or more portable? To reiterate, as best as I can ascertain, the OP mentioned NOTHING about the weight of the pump being an issue. He mentioned "during travels." Portability is likely the #1 concern, which is why a floor pump isn't an option. He's looking for something that fits in luggage, most likely.

Anyone who voluntarily tops off a tire with a mini pump, if any other option is available, is certifiably masochistic.
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I guess it depends on what 'during travels' entails.

If you're traveling by bike, then i would say, no, too heavy, and you'll need to have a way to recharge it once the batteries get low.

If you're traveling by car and bringing your bikes, then a 12v compressor that runs off the car's acc power is smaller and less expensive. Although, a floor pump doesn't take up much room and there's no power plug to deal with (also presta valves)

If you're flying somewhere with your bike, and space is a premium, then the cordless seems like it would fit the bill. You'd still more then likely have to leave it wherever your tools/bike box/luggage, etc.
However, the Turbo Morph seems to split the difference between a floor pump and a mini pump.
Good size, lots of features, and still could be carried on the bike.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Ahh yes, how could a forget the machismo inherent to pumping up a tire. .
And don't you forget it, Missy! It's what makes America great!
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I've seen Pro team mechanics (online pictures) with a gauge on a battery powered infiltrator..
they do have dozens of wheels to keep ready to go.

run of the mill are probably low pressure for car tires, bike team mechanics they may have modified theirs to push higher pressures.







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Perhaps someone should design an e-bike with central tire inflation system like military vehicles.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Cordless inflator, no competition. I can see with near certainty that no one in this thread has ever used one, as they did not recommend one-- but I also think most misread the topic, which asked for an option to use when traveling, not while riding. ANY mini pump will have you hating yourself and your decisions by the third tire.
It's pretty clear that you've never used a Topeak Turbo Morph, the pump the OP mentioned (maybe you didn't bother to read his post either). They come with a pressure gauge and put over 100lb into a tyre quickly and easily - they do this easily because they convert to a floor pump so one end of the pump is anchored on the ground and you can use your body weight on the pump lever. They are nothing like most mini pumps which, I agree, are pretty woeful. Given the choice between relying on an electrical device and using a simple, well developed mechanical device, the OP's choice is pretty easy, buy the Topeak.
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No, but I did watch a video on the internet of a guy using one. Looks like a pump that performs wonderfully if viewed as a mini-pump, or poorly if viewed as a floor pump. It's one or the other.

...and I just put in ~10psi into each of my 700x25 tires (from 90 to 100psi) in less than 30 seconds total, from the time of taking the inflator off the shelf to putting it back. The notion of busting out an oversized mini pump at 4am to top off my tires is frankly laughable.
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No, but I did watch a video on the internet of a guy using one. Looks like a pump that performs wonderfully if viewed as a mini-pump, or poorly if viewed as a floor pump. It's one or the other.

...and I just put in ~10psi into each of my 700x25 tires (from 90 to 100psi) in less than 30 seconds total, from the time of taking the inflator off the shelf to putting it back. The notion of busting out an oversized mini pump at 4am to top off my tires is frankly laughable.
To each his own. I have an electrical compressor, but if I have to walk the bike all the way across the garage to get to it then I frequently just grab the little mechanical pump on the bike instead. And I certainly wouldn't consider taking along yet another gadget on a trip just for the few times I might need to top off the tires.
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For a pump to carry along on my bike, I'd have to go with a manual hand pump. Seems like simpler is better and no need to find a place to recharge it. What happens if you forget to recharge and you're out on the road with a flat tire and no way to inflate it? Plus it seems like a manual pump has fewer parts to potentially break down. And without a battery and motor a manual pump would weigh a lot less.

You're on a bike for exercise, might as well exercise your arms, too.
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I think that pump is pretty neat and looks ideal to take when traveling. My concern would be longevity and reliability for an electric pump that size.

You get some flack here for not using a manual floor pump, but when people - maybe the same people - use CO2 pumps that's kind of silly. I have a 120v portable pump for my family bikes and don't even own a floor pump, and carry a mini-pump or CO2 for rides. There's nothing wrong with that.
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