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Flat tire crapfest trifecta

Old 09-14-17, 05:47 PM
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Flat tire crapfest trifecta

Funny day today - first, got a flat on my rear Continental 4000s. Ok no problem, easy fix right? I get on with fixing the flat and it started raining, of course it only lasts the 20 minutes when I am fixing the tire! Finally, I use my Lezyne road drive and after about 150 pumps, the damn thing breaks at the hose! Looking back I think I should have pumped it towards the floor and kept it straight, I was inflating valve at top and bending the hose at about 120 degrees.

The upside is luckily I had a $20 bill to use as a boot and got it inflated just enough before it broke to get home (60 PSI?). Also found a spare hose so cant complain

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Old 09-14-17, 08:31 PM
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Bet a co2 cartridge wouldn't have broke.

Glad it all ended well enough.
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Old 09-14-17, 08:42 PM
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Four flats on one ride is my record. Three were more or less self inflicted.

Ran across a guy who had eight flats on the first day of a four-day ride. He didn't want to talk much.

At a sag stop, inadvertently parked my bike with the back wheel in a small puddle of water, which I noticed was bubbling. Odd way to find a leak.

Carrying n C02 cartridges is tempting fate to give you n+1 flats. Ditto with tubes.

Stuff happens. Sometimes, despite all planning and tools and preparation, you have to walk. Life is good.
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Old 09-14-17, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by downtube42 View Post
......Ran across a guy who had eight flats on the first day of a four-day ride. He didn't want to talk much......
I had about that many years ago on the first day of a loop tour around the Finger Lakes in central NY state. It turned out that the plastic rim strip (never again) picked that day to deteriorate to the degree that it was splitting at the points it covered the double eyelets in the rim. I was running low on patches when I came across the post office of Tyrone, NY.

I bought a roll of fiber-reinforced packing tape, which is easy to split into narrow strips by hand, and life was good again.
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Old 09-14-17, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by calyco View Post
Funny day today - ...
The upside is luckily I had a $20 bill to use as a boot ...
Well the one thing that I think would have made it funnier is if the temperature was below freezing (not really). I'll take rain over freezing any day. Try changing a tire with frozen fingers....or with cloves/cycling mitts on. For future knowledge...I've used a cigarette butt as a boot. Unfortunately they can be found just about anywhere. Those things seem to be indestructible.

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Old 09-15-17, 12:01 AM
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I've had three flats in the last four weeks. Two of those were in the first minutes of my ride, but were easily fixed, I've can do a tube change in only 5 minutes nowadays.

I recommend you get rid of the Lezyne pump and get a Topeak Road Morph. I have a Road Morph which I have used for a couple of years with no issues, and I have an old version from the 90's, used hundreds of times, but which still works properly (though it is so beat up you can't see any of the markings on it anymore).
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Old 09-15-17, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by calyco View Post
Flat tire crapfest trifecta...
...still better than driving! To modify an axiom from work, "It is better to have multiple problems with one ride, than one problem with multiple rides."
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Old 09-15-17, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by calyco View Post
Flat tire crapfest trifecta...
Note to self: Build cycling event around this name "Flat Tire Crapfest Trifecta".
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Old 09-15-17, 06:50 AM
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Can someone explain "boot"? Looks like something I better know about.
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Old 09-15-17, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
Can someone explain "boot"? Looks like something I better know about.
I just want to know another way to use $20

As for the pump, I have a very similar Lezyne pump. I've been a big fan of it. Very streamlined. Not in the way. It's worked when I needed it to.

I assume even the best pump in the work could break. So there's no way to fully avoid it (aside from carrying a second pump as a back up)

the one problem I had on my Lezyne pump with the screw in hose like yours is that the rubber washer around the screw joint blows out and lets the air leak out until you fix it. It never broke, just blew out of position under pressure. Home Depot solved that problem for me with a heavier duty rubber o ring for $0.22
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Old 09-15-17, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
Can someone explain "boot"? Looks like something I better know about.
If there's a big hole in the tyre (not the tube), the tube can squeeze out through it and get damaged. A 'boot' is just a layer of something that covers the hole on the inside and stops the tyre squeezing out.

My puncture fail was only a single puncture, but it left a hole in the sidewall of the tyre big enough to poke your finger through. Goodness knows what caused it but I bailed out and called for a lift.
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Old 09-15-17, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sangetsu View Post
I recommend you get rid of the Lezyne pump and get a Topeak Road Morph.
+1. The entire Topeak Morph line is outstanding, but it is nice to have the foot peg and hose that turns it into a mini-floor pump. Even used mine as a floor pump for a while, when my actual floor pump crapped out.

Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
Can someone explain "boot"? Looks like something I better know about.
If you actually cut your tire, you can place something between the tube and the cut that will keep the tube from expanding outside the tire and suffice for abrasion protection long enough to get you home where you can replace the tire. Dollar bills, duct tape, and tyvex envelopes are all mentioned frequently.
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Old 09-15-17, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
Can someone explain "boot"? Looks like something I better know about.
It's something like this:



And not like this:


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Old 09-15-17, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kaos joe View Post
I bought a roll of fiber-reinforced packing tape, which is easy to split into narrow strips by hand, and life was good again.
Brilliant!
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Old 09-15-17, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Wileyrat View Post
Bet a co2 cartridge wouldn't have broke.
Bet a CO2 cartridge wouldn't have pumped up three flats in one day. My record.
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Old 09-15-17, 11:18 AM
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Wish I'd known about the boot last year when I got a flat on my shiny new Giant; I figure some sort of mystical sword popped out of the road enough to put a gash in my flimsy came-with-the-bike tire and vanished, 'cause I never found the slashy piece of glass. I was able to repair the tube and re-attach the rear wheel without mangling anything (I'd never even seen disk brakes up close before) and re-inflate the tire with my lovely, amazing, wonderful Lezayne, and finish my commute; slowly, and with a slight bump (I'd never heard of a boot), but I did it. The next day I went to my LBS and ordered a pair of Specialized Hemisphere Armadillos, and haven't had a problem since.
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Old 09-15-17, 11:29 AM
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When is a tire kaput? Whatever I ran over it went through the casing. Gash is about 5 mm wide, how would you guys repair it for long term use?

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Old 09-15-17, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Skipjacks View Post
I just want to know another way to use $20
Take that $20 to a tire shop and buy a few small car tire patches to use as boots on future rides. You should likely still have enough left over to buy lunch for you and a friend. If the patches are too big, they can be easily cut down to size and glued over the hole. Much better than using a $20 bill, and will likely last longer.
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Old 09-15-17, 01:00 PM
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Flat tire crapfest? Read this.

https://www.newbernsj.com/news/20170909/ms-bike-riders-hampered-by-scattered-tacks-on-road-130-plus-flat-tires
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