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Old 10-11-17, 08:36 AM
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Style question: Lugged fork on welded frame?

So. I've been pondering on getting a lugged steel fork to put on my welded Ritchey Breakaway CX frame. Problem is, I'm really OCD about symmetry, and I half think that a lugged fork will just stick out if the the frame isn't lugged.

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My wife is OCD. I hate it when she asks my opinions about such things that are purely aesthetics.

Are you thinking there is some performance difference between them?
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Either get past your OCD, or buy a fork that you think goes with the frame. What anyone else thinks won't help.
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So, what's the alternative? Put on a plastic fork that is glued together?
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
My wife is OCD. I hate it when she asks my opinions about such things that are purely aesthetics.

Are you thinking there is some performance difference between them?
No. No performance difference. Just looks. I prefer the appearance of the lugged fork by itself, but have trouble picturing it on a welded frame.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
So, what's the alternative? Put on a plastic fork that is glued together?
You mean crabon? Well, when you put it like that...
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
Either get past your OCD, or buy a fork that you think goes with the frame. What anyone else thinks won't help.
Probably not, but this isn't the most inane question ever asked on this forum. This forum wouldn't exist save for the random thoughts thrown out there in moments of boredom.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
So, what's the alternative? Put on a plastic fork that is glued together?
Crabon is definitely an option, but finding crabon that takes fenders in the winter months is tough.

I have a Ritchey WCS fork on there now. Brilliantly light, looks good, but I get wicked brake chatter with it, and it can't mount fenders.
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OCD about being OCD. That can't be a good thing.
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My 1977 Schwinn Varsity didn't have lugs for the frame but came with a lugged fork. Probably a lot of others out there too.

Here is a catalog pic of a Schwinn Superior. Notice they even chromed the lugs on the fork which stands out, in a good way, on the non lugged frame.
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
Crabon is definitely an option, but finding crabon that takes fenders in the winter months is tough.

I have a Ritchey WCS fork on there now. Brilliantly light, looks good, but I get wicked brake chatter with it, and it can't mount fenders.
Wound Up makes a carbon fork that will take fenders and a rack. Oddly enough, I was thinking of putting one on my........Ritchey Breakaway Cross. Also, I use TRP V-brakes which seem not to chatter.

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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
Probably not, but this isn't the most inane question ever asked on this forum. This forum wouldn't exist save for the random thoughts thrown out there in moments of boredom.
No, it isn't the most inane question, and I'm sorry if you read my post as implying that.

My point is that nobody can talk you past what you see as a cosmetic mismatch. Technical issues can be addressed, and folks can say what problems you may or may not encounter. But personal taste is just that ---- personal.

OTOH, you might post a photo of the bike, and ask for suggestions about a fork that would be right for it.

In the end, it's exactly as I said. You have to choose between accepting the mismatch, or giving up on that fork and finding one you'll be comfortable with.
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
So. I've been pondering on getting a lugged steel fork to put on my welded Ritchey Breakaway CX frame. Problem is, I'm really OCD about symmetry, and I half think that a lugged fork will just stick out if the the frame isn't lugged.

Thoughts?
Your frame will still be symmetrical (except for the rear derailleur hangar).

There, crisis averted.
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Crabon is definitely an option, but finding crabon that takes fenders in the winter months is tough.
Carbon: (Ritchey OE)
https://www.bikeparts.com/BPC322797/...erer-w-eyelets


Lugged Steel:
https://www.niagaracycle.com/categor...oss-fork-black

I'm guessing your OE fork is all carbon?
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
So. I've been pondering on getting a lugged steel fork to put on my welded Ritchey Breakaway CX frame. Problem is, I'm really OCD about symmetry, and I half think that a lugged fork will just stick out if the the frame isn't lugged.

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Most Surly bikes are TIG welded with a lugged fork, and many other brands do the same thing. Conversely, quite a few late-80s/early-90s steel bikes had lugged frames, but a welded unicrown fork. So there is plenty of precedent for either configuration.

Aesthetically, I prefer both to be lugged, but I have several bikes with mixed configurations.
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
So. I've been pondering on getting a lugged steel fork to put on my welded Ritchey Breakaway CX frame. Problem is, I'm really OCD about symmetry, and I half think that a lugged fork will just stick out if the the frame isn't lugged.

Thoughts?
1- you arent actually OCD(which is often times debilitating)- you are just particular about something. YUGE difference and keeping that in mind may help.
2-I have a tig'd Taiwan steel frame with a lugged fork. Havent ever thought twice about it- and its as symmetrical as any other bike of mine that is a lugged frame and fork. Both fork ends are the same length, curve, etc- totally symmetrical.

The fact that its lugged doesnt stick out, especially since the fork is the same color as the frame.
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I think mine looks good with a painted carbon fork.
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An older style square lugged fork would look out of place but a more modern aero lugged fork would look OK. This is the 3Rensho replica (LC21 aero lug) made by Tange at the link above.









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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
Most Surly bikes are TIG welded with a lugged fork, and many other brands do the same thing. Conversely, quite a few late-80s/early-90s steel bikes had lugged frames, but a welded unicrown fork. So there is plenty of precedent for either configuration.

Aesthetically, I prefer both to be lugged, but I have several bikes with mixed configurations.
Agree, but as something I never paid any attention too, my white Soma Smoothie is welded steel with a matched Soma lugged steel fork.

Looks just fine, and I think that the reason is it's a matching fork to the frame, color wise.
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My 1977 Schwinn Varsity didn't have lugs for the frame but came with a lugged fork. Probably a lot of others out there too..
Correction. 1977 Varsities did not have a lugged fork. In fact, the blades weren't even hollow tubes, they were forged solid bars. They came with a decorative chrome cap for the crown that slipped over the steereer.

This is mine with the cap in place.







And this is mine with the cap removed.


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Correction. 1977 Varsities did not have a lugged fork. In fact, the blades weren't even hollow tubes, they were forged solid bars. They came with a decorative chrome cap for the crown that slipped over the steereer.....
Correct, but moot. Since this is about a stylistic/cosmetic issue, it doesn't matter how the fork is made, just how it looks.
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Correct, but moot. Since this is about a stylistic/cosmetic issue, it doesn't matter how the fork is made, just how it looks.
Moot? The fork doesn't even begin to look like a lugged fork, on any level, whatsoever. So the statement was incorrect in both construction and aesthetic description.
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Moot? The fork doesn't even begin to look like a lugged fork, on any level, whatsoever. So the statement was incorrect in both construction and aesthetic description.
I agreed with you on that point. Note that the first word was "Correct". But the thread isn't about forks, it's about fork cosmetics.
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Correction. 1977 Varsities did not have a lugged fork. In fact, the blades weren't even hollow tubes, they were forged solid bars. They came with a decorative chrome cap for the crown that slipped over the steereer.
Yeah, I guess I have to take my beating for not being correct. That's just a hazard of forums. Someone will find the inaccuracies. So you are several up on me...

I never had to separate my fork and frame, but I remembered it looked like a lugged fork. And the OP seemed to have been only concerned with looks at the time.

How does your fork with the cap on not look like a lugged fork?

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