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Old 11-05-17, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I've given up German beer, pizza and sushi. If that doesn't destroy their economies nothing will.
I've given up German sushi, Japanese pizza and Italian beer. We all must make sacrifices for 'Murcia.
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Subaru Outback. Takes a roof rack, hitch rack, or a bike or two inside with the seats flipped down. Good mileage, lots of features, too.
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My Honda Odyssey was made in Alabama, which is an American State.*










*1861-1868, notwithstanding.

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Old 11-08-17, 07:21 AM
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Pizza is actually American, I dont buy German cars, and eating raw fish is totally gross. Talk to the people that have gotten worms from raw fish.
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Check the electronics of almost any vehicle and count the Japanese and other asian countries that make those components or parts. You are buying from everywhere now, a vehicle isn’t a drop in the bucket. Strange. Flame on.....

+1. Just look at the whole Takata air bag mess. Japanese company with a European headquarters in Germany where it also has nine production facilities.
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Old 11-08-17, 08:49 AM
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thanks to an Italian design, a Jeep Cherokee is now a decent SUV to drive on the highway & a pleasure for everyone to sit in
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thanks to an Italian design, a Jeep Cherokee is now a decent SUV to drive on the highway & a pleasure for everyone to sit in
But now it is a true Fiat. Fix it again Tony.
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Old 11-10-17, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict
Hands down....mini-van is the best.

Had a truck...no good...exposed to weather and thieves...no much room for hauling family...okay if you're single.
I mount two bikes on a sheet of plywood with two quick releases in the back of my Honda Odyssey. I can get them out and ready to ride as quick as my pals using racks.

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Old 11-10-17, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
But now it is a true Fiat. Fix it again Tony.




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Hey guys. Let’s keep the politics out of this thread or we will have to close it.
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Old 11-10-17, 04:34 PM
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2004 Ford Ranger for this wolfess. 7' box, too (try finding a truck box).
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Pizza is actually American, I dont buy German cars, and eating raw fish is totally gross. Talk to the people that have gotten worms from raw fish.
Pizza is actually American? That will come as some surprise to these nice people from Napoli. https://www.damichele.net/
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Old 11-10-17, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fargo Wolf
2004 Ford Ranger for this wolfess. 7' box, too (try finding a truck box).
Nice trucks, the Rangers. Nice size as well.

All the “small” pickups grew into mid-sized. Too bad as the smaller versions were a really useful size and design.

You could run a 4 banger on those, now you want a 6 if hauling anything or want to get the things to highway speed within the week.

Ford as well as Dodge just dropped out of this market, though Ford is supposed to bring something to the market next year. Curious why they abandoned it.
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Old 11-13-17, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Nice trucks, the Rangers. Nice size as well.

All the “small” pickups grew into mid-sized. Too bad as the smaller versions were a really useful size and design.

You could run a 4 banger on those, now you want a 6 if hauling anything or want to get the things to highway speed within the week.

Ford as well as Dodge just dropped out of this market, though Ford is supposed to bring something to the market next year. Curious why they abandoned it.
I think sales were poor for the Ranger as the gas mileage was close to the same for the number one selling F150. I don't know about Dodge's reasoning.
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Old 11-13-17, 11:49 AM
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I have a dodge grand caravan, seats fold into the floor...
a bike rack would be optimal, but throwing a bike in the back will do for now.
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Old 11-13-17, 12:09 PM
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Tesla 3 . as seen on 'how it's made' ... with no petrol motor, there is a lot of space front and back to put stuff..
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Old 11-13-17, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Juggy_Gales
I have a dodge grand caravan, seats fold into the floor...
a bike rack would be optimal, but throwing a bike in the back will do for now.
I have a new generation GC. I can open the sliding door roll my bike in (behind the front seats) and close the door. It fits fine.
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Old 11-13-17, 01:41 PM
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I have a new generation GC. I can open the sliding door roll my bike in (behind the front seats) and close the door. It fits fine.
Yesss Same here. Gotta love the convenience of the auto doors of the SXT and R/T trims
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Old 11-14-17, 12:38 PM
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Old 11-14-17, 08:40 PM
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My vote went for a 2016 Subaru Impreza.





And it's good for the driver.




I was rear ended by a garbage truck and pushed into a F150.
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I was rear ended by a garbage truck and pushed into a F150.
Was the bike OK?
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Was the bike OK?
Bike wasn't in the car.

I couldn't imagine telling the insurance company there was a $14,000 bike in the back.
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Old 11-15-17, 09:15 AM
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