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Old 10-19-17, 10:05 PM
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Has Nashbar cut off coupon sales?

Pretty much what the title says.

Had a couple items I have been waiting to order from Nashbar on a 25-30% coupon sale, which used to happen weekly. I haven't seen anything of late, and combined with the new website design was getting suspicious, so I went back and dug through old emails. Hasn't been anything advertised in almost a month, since Sept 22.

Did they eliminate those? I have noticed some of the bike prices have dropped considerably. wondering if they are changing up their marketing strategy. Or, have I just somehow missed them?
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Nashbar recently revamped their marketing. They eliminating those gimmicky short deadline discounts and went with a system closer to Jenson USA: One discounted price, all the time, until the item is sold out.

Suits me. I'd become frustrated with Nashbar because in trying to combine enough items to reach the $49 limit for free shipping I'd often miss deadlines. So I'm more likely to shop Nashbar again.
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I also had been wondering what happened to their "72" (at least 72 items at least 72% off for 72 hours) sales.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Nashbar recently revamped their marketing. They eliminating those gimmicky short deadline discounts and went with a system closer to Jenson USA: One discounted price, all the time, until the item is sold out.

Suits me. I'd become frustrated with Nashbar because in trying to combine enough items to reach the $49 limit for free shipping I'd often miss deadlines. So I'm more likely to shop Nashbar again.
Yep, I received a email a while back, this is their new marketing strategy. KB
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It will be interesting to see how it works out for them. Since they are owned by the same company, I always think of performance as the pretty-cheap stuff and nashbar as the really-cheap stuff. I don't know what would entice me to buy anything nashbar branded other than an absurdly low price.
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Old 10-20-17, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kingston View Post
It will be interesting to see how it works out for them. Since they are owned by the same company, I always think of performance as the pretty-cheap stuff and nashbar as the really-cheap stuff. I don't know what would entice me to buy anything nashbar branded other than an absurdly low price.
Exactly my take. I went to Nashbar frequently for anything where cheap was as good as overpriced. if they don't offer really cheap stuff ....

They already lost a big order from me because of their useless new site design ... I guess (hope) I caught them while still under construction, but I couldn't find whole categories ....

There is a Ton of competition. Nashbar had a niche. If it gives up that niche and tries to join the general pool .... it will drown.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
I have noticed some of the bike prices have dropped considerably.
Yeah- they seem to at least have gone the route of a lower price within the spectrum of possible prices products used to be sold for.

So if a pump was anywhere between $18 and $36- they seem to be on the $18 side as a perma price.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
There is a Ton of competition. Nashbar had a niche. If it gives up that niche and tries to join the general pool .... it will drown.
The one thing I'll point out is that it seems (at least for now) they still have their own "serviceable on a budget" line of goods. Bags, racks, components, etc. Don't see that with most other retailers.
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Originally Posted by kingston View Post
It will be interesting to see how it works out for them. Since they are owned by the same company, I always think of performance as the pretty-cheap stuff and nashbar as the really-cheap stuff. I don't know what would entice me to buy anything nashbar branded other than an absurdly low price.
Well there is a ton on Nashbar that isnt Nashbar branded, so its worth buying from them when those products are wanted and cheaper than elsewhere. And since Nashbar price matches any other site with the same product, its always cheapest at Nashbar.

As for the company's house branded products- look at the Nashbar Touring bike. Its an incredible deal for even hundreds more. Excellent spec for the price.
Products like a wedge bag are of the same quality as what I use all the time. Its a wedge bag...if the shape and zipper work and it stays attached, its good by me.

I may have low expectations, but I dont really care about brand as long as the quality is there.

Nashbar's house shifters are rebranded microshifts. I have some microshift 7sp STIs and love them. Excellent quality and Ive been tempted to buy 9sp and higher, just dont have the need.

I own a couple Nashbar jerseys(both road and mtn)- they zip, fit, and last. Pretty much the 3 things I need in a jersey. Like my expectations, I may have low standards, but brand isnt important to me- only value for the price.

Nashbar shifters, wedge bag, jersey, touring bike- all plenty of quality for the price or even for more $.
I havent tried every Nashbar branded item, really not even a lot of them, but what I have tried have all been the same quality as I would get at a shop.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
The one thing I'll point out is that it seems (at least for now) they still have their own "serviceable on a budget" line of goods. Bags, racks, components, etc. Don't see that with most other retailers.
I'm sure that's what they are banking on, and maybe they don't care about losing borderline-profitable customers like me.

I bought a set of these day-trekker panniers a few years ago when they were on sale for something like $12. I don't think I've ever used them, but the deal was too good to pass up. At thirty-five bucks I'm not giving them a second look. Same with every other nashbar item I have, tools, accessories, clothing, etc. As I look at my collection of nashbar stuff, it's mostly stuff that seemed like a good deal when I bought it but hardly ever gets used. Except for the crochet gloves. You still can't beat those gloves for eight bucks.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
if they don't offer really cheap stuff ....
But they still do.

If a product that used to go on sale 3x per week was sold for $25 as a low and $33 as a high(a typical 25% off sale), then if its just always priced at $25 its still the same deal as before. Hell, if its now priced at a constant $27, then its still great because it allows the customer a low price without having to play the game of when to buy and allows for immediate sales.
Forcing consumers to hold products in a basket allowed competitors to possibly entice those buyers away with lower pricing.

Yes, there are some consumers who may be turned off by this(apparently you?) because they like the game of limited time 'sales' and enjoy the hunt for a bargain. Perhaps seeing the pricing compared to competitors will help them get over the sadness of not scoring a 'deal' during an arbitrary time period and just getting that same deal any day of the week.

If Nashbar loses sales due to pricing their products consistently at the bottom of the pricing spectrum that used to exist, then it will just further solidify my view of so many consumers- misguided and spending based on emotion.
When I begrudgingly go to a Kohls, I dont actually save $72 when I only spent $40, even though the cashier tells me I did. That place wouldnt exist if they actually priced all their goods at the high claimed prices. I wouldnt ever spend $112 on stuff thats only worth $40.
Same with Nashbar- they now just dont need to play the game and can provide consistent pricing. I hope the appeal of consistent prices brings in more people than who will leave due to the cancellation of inflated prices for sales.
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@mstateglfr, you are right. Nashbar has a lot of perfectly good entry level stuff. I'm a high mileage rider, so I also have a lot of much nicer stuff. They will lose customers like me with their new pricing model. As I said, they probably don't care.
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I will see what happens.

I only waited for super-sales for big-ticket items. The vast majority of my my Nashbar purchases were items like shorts, bibs, jerseys ... and smaller components.

I saw a spike in their prices a while back (it was mentioned in a thread on this site) but also saw a few prices return to near normal .... I will keep an eye on things.

What I have been watching is the difference between Performance and Nashbar .... The two both did an overhaul and I am worried that Nashbar will start to mirror Performance ... .including their higher prices.

So long as Nashbar keeps its prices low on its generics and cheap items they will still get a lot of business from me. Even though I buy cheap stuff---each item tends to be at the bottom of the internet-wide price range---the stuff adds up quickly, and over the course of a year, I probably spend as much at Nashbar as I do at any other site, even if I am buying group sets or wheels or whatever big-ticket items elsewhere.

As I said, Nashbar had a niche. There are I don't know how many sites offering mid-to-high prices .... being one more of them sounds like a bad business move. I don't think there is potential volume increase to offset the potential loss. We shall see.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Forcing consumers to hold products in a basket allowed competitors to possibly entice those buyers away with lower pricing.
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When I begrudgingly go to a Kohls, I dont actually save $72 when I only spent $40, even though the cashier tells me I did. That place wouldnt exist if they actually priced all their goods at the high claimed prices. I wouldnt ever spend $112 on stuff thats only worth $40.
I will point out that JCPenny tried this a few years back to quite disastrous results. Seems people like thinking they are getting a deal, if they are buying things simply priced at fair market value instead of thinking they are 70% off and a score, they are far less likely to want those items. SHould be interesting to see how it goes for Nashbar.

And yes, I've had to stop arguing with the Kohls cashiers on that point....
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
I will point out that JCPenny tried this a few years back to quite disastrous results. Seems people like thinking they are getting a deal, if they are buying things simply priced at fair market value instead of thinking they are 70% off and a score, they are far less likely to want those items. SHould be interesting to see how it goes for Nashbar.

And yes, I've had to stop arguing with the Kohls cashiers on that point....
Yeah, i was thinking about the JCP disaster from earlier when I typed '...then it will just further solidify my view of so many consumers- misguided and spending based on emotion.'

How we as consumers react to pricing is a really interesting study in behavior- tendancies and preferences specifically.
A dominant vs passive personality, a planner vs impulsive buyer, etc- its interesting to see what works and what doesnt as well as why.
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This thread is an interesting read. I don't buy a lot of bike stuff outside of basic things like tubes and tires, which I almost always buy through LBS, and maybe a pair of NOT SHORTS once a year with my REI dividend. Bike eats like Cliff Bars and Perpetuem I also buy locally. As such, I had no idea how Nashbar used to market/price.
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As such, I had no idea how Nashbar used to market/price.
Used to be every Sunday was between 22-26ish% off sitewide, and they'd have a 1-2 day 30% off sitewide sale monthly or so. Rest of the time it would be random categories or brands of stuff on sale.
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No complaints about Nashbar, products or service. My only gripe was the gimmicky short deadline sales, which I often missed because I'd spend too much time prowling the bargain bin to add another $5-$20 worth of stuff for the free shipping.

So by last year I was mostly buying my online stuff from Amazon, Jenson and others. And I buy locally whenever possible -- tubes, products that aren't discounted online (Serfas products like my light, Speed Bag saddle bag).

With Nashbar's new pricing structure I'll buy from them more often. And they have an Amazon outlet for some products. Prices are no different, but it's convenient to use Amazon's checkout app via my mobile devices. Nashbar's own mobile interface is just a stripped down browser, not a proper mobile app.

Offhand, the only Nashbar brand bag I can remember buying is a pair of their Townie open top grocery panniers. Outstanding product, the best value around in this particular style of pannier. I've used 'em a few times a week for two years, often heavily loaded with 20 lb jugs of cat litter, or as much of my favorite brews as the bags will hold. No problems or complaints.

I bought 'em for $20 after waiting for a price drop from $25, and now the regular price is $20. That's about half the price of comparable open top grocery panniers from other makers, and the Nashbar Townies are well made.

And I have a Nashbar Earl Grey floor pump. Very good pump, although I'd prefer a threaded chuck rather than the lever lock clamp type. No problems with Schrader valves, but for awhile back in the summer I kept bending the thin valve cores on my road bike's Presta tubes. Then another bike forums member suggested untwisting the valve lock only partway -- that fixed the problem, with less of the spindly metal exposed.

Nashbar Lancaster baggy shorts -- great design, unfortunately compromised by mediocre stitching of the Velcro waistband cinching straps. But the long, deep pockets with reverse slash openings are perfect for cycling -- those pockets will hold just about any cell phone, even the elongated models. If they put $2-$5 worth of better craftsmanship into the cost they'd be outstanding baggy shorts. My Pearl Izumi Canyon baggies have far superior craftsmanship, but the open pockets are poorly designed for cycling -- I'm always worried stuff will fall out so I don't keep anything valuable in the open pockets, although the zippered pocket will hold a wallet, keys, etc.

Most items I've bought from Nashbar were their major brand name closeouts or heavily discounted items: Michelin Protek Cross Max tires for my errand bike (bulletproof tires, outstanding values for around $20-$30); an AGU Qyoto weatherproof handlebar bag with KlickFix mount for only $20; Louis Garneau casual fit jerseys.

The bargain bin is still a mess, pretty much like meatspace bargain bins. It would help if Nashbar added more category check boxes to narrow down selections.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
When I begrudgingly go to a Kohls, I dont actually save $72 when I only spent $40, even though the cashier tells me I did. That place wouldnt exist if they actually priced all their goods at the high claimed prices. I wouldnt ever spend $112 on stuff thats only worth $40.
Same with Nashbar- they now just dont need to play the game and can provide consistent pricing. I hope the appeal of consistent prices brings in more people than who will leave due to the cancellation of inflated prices for sales.
Even when I buy at Kohls occasionally, that "discount" really annoys me too. I compare after-discount prices anyway, so I don't get fooled. But it is annoying. At least they now have electronic price tags so I don't have to do the math myself.
So I'm in favor of Nashbar getting rid of sales and have low-normal prices all the time. Actually Nashbar lost many sales to me when I googled for prices of items and I just saw their "original" high price. Just recently I bought a Brooks saddle from Nashbar, but only because for some reason i actually put that $130 saddle in the basket to see it is only $100.
don't get me started on car MSRP and cash on the hood...

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The bargain bin is still a mess, pretty much like meatspace bargain bins. It would help if Nashbar added more category check boxes to narrow down selections.
One reason, besides good prices and service, to buy from CRC is that they make it easy to find things. All other stores don't seem to get it... they expect the customer to somehow know where to find things.
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My guess is that it's too labor intensive to better organize bargain bins. The whole idea is to keep prices low to blow 'em out. So as with meatspace bargain bins, let the customers do the work in exchange for bargains.

One thing Nashbar, Amazon and others might consider to improve the user experience for finding items is to crowdsource tagging to trusted customers. Allow registered customers to add tags to help categorize items. As an incentive they could offer an occasional extra discount to customers who actively contribute to tagging.
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Well, after looking this weekend, I have noticed that their low-rider front racks are no longer offered, so some products have disappeared. Bummer, I wanted a set for the new bike, just didn't have a reason to buy them yet.

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My guess is that it's too labor intensive to better organize bargain bins. The whole idea is to keep prices low to blow 'em out. So as with meatspace bargain bins, let the customers do the work in exchange for bargains.
I'd buy that argument for traditional brick and mortar bargain bins, not so much for online sites which have to enter item details (or already had them in the system) to begin with. Far easier to blow this crap out if folks can actually find it.
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I'm not sure how much tagging or keywording Nashbar does for inventory. What makes their site relatively easy to navigate is the category breakdown by major type of component: tires, bags, etc.

But once those are kicked into the clearance zone bins it's trickier to narrow things down to specific items.

Nashbar's site redesign appears to be in progress. The site is occasionally inaccessible in the wee hours, and right now some features aren't working -- for example, the option to show more items per page. And one of the menu shortcuts to navigate to tires is broken, although the other shortcut is working.
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Well it seems performance bike would have better deals now then....

Performance bike still has 30% back for future purchases once in a while and they price match. So they will pricematch whatever Nashbar has and I’m assuming you can get money for a future purchase. Seems like they are the cheaper option now. Doesn’t make much sense to me as they are owned by the same company and Nashbar is supposed to be a lesser brand.
Personally I feel this will result in less sales for Nashbar as people like to see that ‘discount’ in their basket. Makes most people buy more. I guess time will tell.
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Oddly enough, PB recently told me they don't price match Nashbar.
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I've bought a couple handlebars since I started this thread on free shipping sales, so I guess it hasn't bothered me that much
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