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Old 11-01-17, 03:49 PM
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If wide road wheels are popular, where are they?

So I"m looking for a cheap set of winter wheels to put on my cross bike, mainly so I can put some 35mm wide tires on for winter riding.

I keep reading / hearing that wide rims are becoming more popular, but when I look for rim width specs I'm not seeing that. In fact on a lot of websites I don't see width specs at all, and if I do you can't tell if the spec is for internal or external width.

From what I've seen I'd want a minimum internal width of 17mm, but 19mm would be even better. Evans Cycles has a set of Miche Excite wheels for just $72! and when I read the Q&A on their site it indicates the internal width is 19mm. But if I look on other sites I don't see that - instead I see external width of 19mm.

So it seems like retail sites don't list the rim width clearly if at all.

Right now I have some Campy Zonda's on my bike - which have an internal width of 15mm (I think the newer ones may have gone to 17).

What's the best way to find rim width specs? And does anyone have a suggestion for a cheap winter wheelset that I could run 35mm tires on?
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Look up the specs at the rim manufacturer's website. Most provide that, and weight, ERD, and a cross section image.

Lots of 24-25 mm rims out there. Even bigger. Way bigger.



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17mm internal width is probably plenty big if you are only concerned with safety. The charts you see are generally considered conservative with safety in mind.

They are also pretty much the same charts I saw 30 years ago when tires were not as well built.
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Originally Posted by billyymc
So I"m looking for a cheap set of winter wheels to put on my cross bike, mainly so I can put some 35mm wide tires on for winter riding.

I keep reading / hearing that wide rims are becoming more popular, but when I look for rim width specs I'm not seeing that. In fact on a lot of websites I don't see width specs at all, and if I do you can't tell if the spec is for internal or external width.

From what I've seen I'd want a minimum internal width of 17mm, but 19mm would be even better. Evans Cycles has a set of Miche Excite wheels for just $72! and when I read the Q&A on their site it indicates the internal width is 19mm. But if I look on other sites I don't see that - instead I see external width of 19mm.

So it seems like retail sites don't list the rim width clearly if at all.

Right now I have some Campy Zonda's on my bike - which have an internal width of 15mm (I think the newer ones may have gone to 17).

What's the best way to find rim width specs? And does anyone have a suggestion for a cheap winter wheelset that I could run 35mm tires on?
Keep working on your Google-fu. Sun CR18 rims are cheap and have an internal width of 17.5mm. Find some wheels built up around them (or build up your own) and you'll have your winter wheels.
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Not only can it be difficult to find internal and external rim widths, but it can also be difficult to find rear axle spacing. It definitely takes a bit of research.
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There are plenty of 21 mm to 24 mm inside width wheels out there.

Most are disk brake and not cheap.

HED Ardennes Plus and American Classic 29/700 Race come to mind.


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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Keep working on your Google-fu. Sun CR18 rims are cheap and have an internal width of 17.5mm. Find some wheels built up around them (or build up your own) and you'll have your winter wheels.

The Rhynos are 27.5mm outside. Those would be perftacular for 35mm tires.
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The 35's on my Rhyno's are a perfect fit -- great contact patch and zero sidewall wobble.

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Originally Posted by billyymc
What's the best way to find rim width specs? And does anyone have a suggestion for a cheap winter wheelset that I could run 35mm tires on?
Boy- those Miche wheels are cheap. I read reviews and wpuld be interested to see 1000mi updates. I cant imagine they are made for extended use at that price.

If $75 is your budget, i got nothin.

I could list off a few $180-220 wheelsets that are 17mm inner and 23mm outer, which are great for 40mm tires so obviously excellent for 35mm tires.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Boy- those Miche wheels are cheap. I read reviews and wpuld be interested to see 1000mi updates. I cant imagine they are made for extended use at that price.

If $75 is your budget, i got nothin.

I could list off a few $180-220 wheelsets that are 17mm inner and 23mm outer, which are great for 40mm tires so obviously excellent for 35mm tires.
No - budget would be around $200, but was having trouble finding wider wheels in that price range.

I just happened to see those Miche's.
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Kinesis

I put Kinesis Crosslight CX v3 wheels on my commuter, taking Schwalbe Marathon Plus 35s. They're a perfect match for one another. Disc compatible and with sealed bearings, they're pretty decent wheels.

I think that a $70 budget won't accomplish what the OP wants to do.

Selling my stock wheels for $100 on Craigslist, and buying the Kinesis set, plus with the Schwalbe tires...you're looking at maybe $310 or so net cost. I'm on my 3rd year commuting on these wheels. PG

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My Mazama came with 40mm tires and 17mm rims. I have 35mm on there right now, no apparent issues.

As others have mentioned, wider are available, but 17mm should work fine.
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I just got a wheel set made up with Velocity A23 rims. The velocityusa website shows a number or options.f
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Originally Posted by billyymc
No - budget would be around $200, but was having trouble finding wider wheels in that price range.

I just happened to see those Miche's.
Here are a handful of varying options using 3 rims. 2 are V and 1 is traditional box shaped. All are 28-32 spokes and have 23mm outer widths for wider road use.
I have a set of Archetype rims laced to 36h 105 hubs with butted spokes for a gravel bike and love them. Not the lightest wheelset around, but im not the lightest rider around and i got them with an eye on reliability. 40mm tires fit easily and look good.


H + plus Son TB14 Black 32h - Shimano 105 5800 hubs Wheelset [74018] - $190.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
black TB14 rim, 32h 105 5800 hubs, $190. 17.5mm internal and 23mm external

H + plus Son TB14 Polished Silver - Shimano 5800 105 - DT Champ [0072774740895] - $199.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
silver TB14 rim, 32h 105 5800 hubs, $200. 17.5mm internal and 23mm external

Velocity A23 Black Formula Hubs 10 Speed Road 28 Hole Wheelset [74569] - $179.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
black A23 rim, 28h Formula hubs for up to 10sp, $180. 17.5mm internal and 23mm external

Velocity A23 Black Shimano 105 5800 32h Hubs Wheelset 8 9 10 11s [640127] - $199.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
black A23 rim, 32h 105 5800 hubs, $200. 17.5mm internal and 23mm external

Velocity A23 Shimano 105 5800 Hubs 36h DT Competition Wheelset [740952] - $209.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
black A23 rim, 36h 105 5800 hubs, $210. 17.5mm internal and 23mm external

Velocity A23 Silver Shimano 105 5800 32 Hole Hubs Wheelset [73220] - $189.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
silver A23 rim, 32h 105 5800 hubs, $190. 17.5mm internal and 23mm external

H Plus Son Archetype Silver Wheelset Shimano 105 Hubs 8 9 10 11S [0072774745890] - $219.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
silver Archetype rim, 32h 105 5800 hubs, $220. 17mm internal and 23mm external

H Plus Son Archetype Wheelset Shimano 5800 105 Hubs 32h [74351] - $229.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
black Archetype rim, 32h 105 5800 hubs, $230. 17mm internal and 23mm external
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Wow...awesome, thank you!

Not sure how I've never heard of Velomine.
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I may be missing something here, but wouldn’t most 29er mtb rims be wide enough?

And if your cross bike is 135mm hub spacing in the rear, there should also be many 29er mtb wheelsets to choose from.

EDIT: just realized you might have rim brakes. That would cut down a lot on the new mtb options.

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