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Old 11-12-17, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr IGH View Post
Suck it up, Buttercup. Bike is fine, you would have scratched it at some point, your LBS took care of that first scratch for you. Or go for the pound of flesh on a profession in it's last days, it's your karma....
This is a BS response... not every customer is going to satisfied just walking away from a situation resulting from negligent work.

Most mechanics would take a fork out of the frame to cut it. It's easier to cut when it's clamped into a cutting guide that's mounted in a vice. You get better results and can file off the burrs more easily, you also avoid wielding a sharp tool near the frame and getting metal shavings all over the bike.

If the profession is in it's last days it's because of this kind of service.

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Never received any email/thanks from Soma, I found out the replacement was coming when I received a tracking number.
How does this fit into your story? Why would Soma owe you any thanks?
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Old 11-12-17, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Moose View Post
How could any paid bike mechanic could be so careless?
I was once offered a mechanics job on nothing more than the fact the shop needed one desperately and I had told them I was in looking for parts for my down to frame MTB->Touring rebuild.

I wouldn't have a clue how to cut a steerer tube, never owned a bike it was necessary. Of course, they wouldn't offer even half my auto engineering salary and already had an occasional night and weekend guy, so I shot them down.
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Old 11-12-17, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
I was once offered a mechanics job on nothing more than the fact the shop needed one desperately and I had told them I was in looking for parts for my down to frame MTB->Touring rebuild.

I wouldn't have a clue how to cut a steerer tube, never owned a bike it was necessary. Of course, they wouldn't offer even half my auto engineering salary and already had an occasional night and weekend guy, so I shot them down.
It doesn't take a ton of specific knowledge to keep sharp tools with many teeth away from finish painted surfaces on expensive carbon fiber frames.
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Old 11-12-17, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dreww10 View Post
I trust an auto body man with my car. I trust a carbon bicycle repair facility with my bike, and they've indicated to me previously either you re-clear the whole frame or you live with scratches....spot repairing trades one blemish for a larger one. But that's neither here nor there.
I would really like to see pix. I find it hard to believe that any good painter could not fix it. You sound like all you want is blood for something minor that CAN be fixed. And yes it is here and there.
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Old 11-12-17, 09:13 AM
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I would really like to see pix. I find it hard to believe that any good painter could not fix it. You sound like all you want is blood for something minor that CAN be fixed. And yes it is here and there.
You are absolutely right...as long as the scratches or "gouges" as the OP described don't go beneath the finish and into the carbon. If the carbon is cut that could create stress risers which may develop into a crack.

Alot of the discussion here is meaningless without having someone who knows what they are looking at inspect the damage.
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Old 11-12-17, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Moose View Post
It doesn't take a ton of specific knowledge to keep sharp tools with many teeth away from finish painted surfaces on expensive carbon fiber frames.
I can't count the number of times a tool has slipped while working on my own goods and marred something cosmetically (or my fingers less than cosmetically). It really isn't that hard for me to see how someone else can slip up.

If it is that big of a deal, take them to court, and start doing your own wrenching if you wan to completely avoid this situation again. Otherwise, settle for whatever they offer, they seem to have wanted to make it right by having it clear coated again. That is more than fair, I personally would have been happy at list price on some accessories. This whole discussion is absurd.
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Old 11-12-17, 09:58 AM
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Day one, picking up a new bike from LBS, I put a little ding in the top tube.
It still annoys me to this day. And my DIY attempt to cover the scratch with non matching nail polish made it look worse.
OP, I can relate, but let's see some pics of the damage.
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Old 11-12-17, 10:02 AM
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Old 11-12-17, 10:16 AM
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As I figured it would, this thread is going down the same path a relatively recent thread of a similar nature did. As such, I say...

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Old 11-12-17, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
3 yr old bike with scratches gets a new clear coat scratch, and poster offers no photo of bike or new 'damage' and rejects all opinions =
The bike is not in my possession, otherwise I'd post a photo.

I'm not whining nor "out for blood" as another commenter above alludes to. I simply came here to ask if this was negligent and what a fair request for my time and trouble. They have offered to attempt repairing it. My concern and the reason I'm hesitant is that that could easily make the situation worse if not done right. And, despite what commenters here seem to think, I am considering the plight of the shop here, as well: a repair could be much more costly than they believe, and I hate to see them shoulder such a cost as much as I hate that it happened in the first place.
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Old 11-12-17, 11:27 AM
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Just Take care of the scratch itself.. probably had enough touch up paint in the shipping box to cover the scratch ,
just the New Bike display tags don't have all that stuff in them..

But if like My Local Shop.. there is a bin, where many of the little brush in cap bottles are saved.



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Old 11-12-17, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmach View Post
I would really like to see pix. I find it hard to believe that any good painter could not fix it. You sound like all you want is blood for something minor that CAN be fixed. And yes it is here and there.
,,,,, I bet you if he'd go to a woman's cosmetics dept find the nail polish area get the color that fits and some clear coat and raa raa raa,,,, done , yeah it ain't gonna be the same but,,,,,,
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Old 11-12-17, 05:59 PM
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I would negotiate a huge discount on a new bike and either buy one or save it for when something you can't be without is released.......
That is exactly what i will do in that case. Happy ending for both.
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Old 11-13-17, 12:55 PM
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What's the hassle worth to you? I just picked up a new bike from REI and low and behold it has 2 spots on the fork where something rubbed against the paint down to the metal. I contacted REI and they said to call the shop and see if they have touch up paint. In all fairness, I should receive a nearly perfect bike and if I really wanted to, I could go an return this bike and get a new one.

But, in reality bikes that get used will get lots of dings and scratches. I have little free time so I'm more interested in spending it on riding the bike than looking it a it or, god forbid, arguing with customer service/getting exchanges. So I just put some nail polish on it and made it 'mine'. If they already offered to try and repair it, I would accept that and see how it comes out.
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Old 11-13-17, 01:04 PM
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Scratches and cuts in the clearcoat should be the easiest to fix. And if done by anyone with reasonable experience painting auto bodies should look pretty good depending on money and time someone is willing to spend on it.

It's when the color underneath gets scratched that you have a bigger problem of matching things.
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Old 11-13-17, 02:26 PM
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So my question is, what kind of recourse would be considered acceptable in this case? This is a 3-year old, mid-high-end frame with a lot of miles on it, and it has a few minor scratches already (albeit under the chainstays, out of view), so asking for a whole frame or anything is a little too far, in my opinion, but at the same time, I don't feel that saying "stuff happens" and moving on addresses their fault, either.

The shop already said what they're willing to do to make this right. Either take that, or ask for a fix that is of equivalent value (what that might be, I don't know).

I agree with others that the original maintenance (cutting steerer tube) should be comped.

Agreed that they were careless. Agreed that I would be upset in the same situation. Other than fixing the clear coat, though, I don't know what else one could ask. A full frame sand/repaint/recoat seems extreme. Seems to me you either have them get the clearcoat patched, or live with the scratches, or cover the scratches with something (someone suggested a sticker - or, you could go for the Tri look and put one of those pouches on your top tube).

Sorry, it sucks, but stuff does happen: we don't have to like it, we just have to deal with it.

Pretend a vulture tried to rip out your liver and, although you beat him off with your frame pump, it scratched your top tube. Even more effective if, at the end of your tale, you scream "Damn you, Zeeuuusss!!!" (consider changing your screen name to something involving Prometheus, or fire)

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Old 11-13-17, 02:40 PM
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Assuming it's just cosmetic they've offered to fix and you don't want to out of fear it will look worse. I am not sure what else you expect of them. They aren't going to pay to have it completely refinished by a carbon fiber specialist, nor are they going to give you discounts of that worth.
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Old 11-15-17, 08:05 AM
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A little WD-40 on the scratch and buff with soft rag. Done.
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Old 11-15-17, 08:58 AM
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I understand the attitude that all bikes get scratches, just buff it out, stuff happens etc and I can see the point, but if it was my bike and a conspicuous scratch I'd be upset and the shop would need to fix it. I'd let them do the touch-up which might be fine, and if not then they'd have to go to Plan B, whatever that may be. But in the end, whatever it costs them to fix the damage is their issue, not mine.
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Old 11-15-17, 09:08 PM
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It was a stupid mistake by the mechanic, he should apologize and the shop should offer you some compensation - next job for free, an accesory for your bike, something like that - but it's not the end of the world IMO.
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Old 11-16-17, 12:42 AM
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I would want to be compensated for damage.. even to the clearcoat..

But yea, it would be helpful if he posted some pics so we could even see the damage..

I mean.. what solution were you looking for? what are you expecting the bike shop to do to make it right?
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Old 11-16-17, 02:56 AM
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The bike shop screwed up and scratched the bike.
They offered to repair the scratch.
What's this thread about?


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Old 11-16-17, 03:04 AM
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So many former bike shop owners and employees in this thread.

Emphasis on "former."
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Old 11-16-17, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Juggy_Gales View Post
I would want to be compensated for damage.. even to the clearcoat..

But yea, it would be helpful if he posted some pics so we could even see the damage..

I mean.. what solution were you looking for? what are you expecting the bike shop to do to make it right?
Yeah it's difficult if not impossible to judge the extent of the damage without a few photos.

There are actually a couple of auto body shops locally that do solid work with dent repair, painting and detailing, and I am not in a very big city. I don't know if the auto body shops would be as successful working with a bicycle frame but I don't see how or why it would hurt to call them and at least inquire.

Generally speaking I refrain from allowing others work on my bike or even locking it up for me. It's amazing how many gorilla fisted morons work on bikes. I want to say bike shop employees are a step up from felons banging out license plates in the state pen but I'm not so sure about that.
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Old 11-16-17, 03:45 AM
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I wouldn't use that shop again, and I'd be sure to let others know that whilst yes, they were highly regarded, they did scratch my bike whilst doing something that could've been prevented had they bothered to do the job correctly.

As the bike is still ridable, and its only a couple of scratches, I don't think you'll get anything. Could kick up a fuss and get hold of a free winter jacket or something? But apart from that, there isn't much you can do apart from let the shop send your frame off to a auto-repair shop.

Or, the best option, stick a rad sticker over it

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