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Is there a Locksmith in the House?

Old 11-12-17, 07:32 PM
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Is there a Locksmith in the House?

Riding in the curb lane I swerved to miss what I thought was a large bolt of some type. A brief peripheral vision glimpse registered it wasn't a bolt and warranted backtracking to see what it was. In this case, a Bordo Abus 6000 folding lock. I've put a Lost/Found ad up on the local classifieds, notifed a few of the ABUS dealers if a frantic owner comes looking and have even had a dealer contact the Canadian ABUS rep to see if it's possible to have new keys cut in order to use the lock instead of throwing it away. They said if you don't have the numbers associated with the keys or the card that came with it then they can't help even if you provide the lock. A locksmith (only tried one thus far) said she didn't have blanks for it's type.

So.

Has anyone been in this position before that found a solution to get a similar lock working and useable again? I'd hate to see this super expensive lock unused. TIA!
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Old 11-12-17, 07:42 PM
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prairiepedaler, Howdy;

Even by their own standards this is a mid level lock. Check out the video
in the link.
Abus Bordo 6000 Folding Bike Lock Review - The Best Bike Lock

Hasn't cost you anything except some time, give it 30 more days then If
the owner doesn't contact you throw it out...

hank
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Old 11-13-17, 11:41 AM
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Hi Hank, the lock is as good as anything else I've got so I'd like to use it if possible. I always use multiple locks simultaneously and this folder would be nice n' easy to transport. Perhaps the owner is a Bike Forums member and he'll find this post if he searches here for "ABUS". (Found it on Henderson Highway BTW just in case.)
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Old 11-13-17, 04:19 PM
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Abus is in Germany.. the 6000 is their 2nd best, Granit rated 15, 6000 10 ..

your find doubtlessly missing the carry pouch , they have several distributors, supplying bike shops in the USA..

Even key blank may have to be imported ..

https://thebestbikelock.com/wp-conten...-6000-keys.jpg




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Old 11-13-17, 04:49 PM
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I would use it as lockpicking training. I bet it will take several hours to open and maybe 20 youtube vids to learn it. But if you would get it open then you probably wouldn't want to keep it anyway. There must be hours of entertainment in trying opening it.
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Old 11-14-17, 01:35 PM
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Along the lines of lockpicking. If you or someone else can pick it open you might be able to take it apart and get to the insides and then have what you need to make keys for it. If I had one, this is what I'd try, just be warned, this is a good quality lock co, so it won't be easy to pick.
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Old 11-14-17, 03:14 PM
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Does it not have a serial number? Contact them and ask to purchase a replacement key. Contact info here.
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Old 11-14-17, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz View Post
Does it not have a serial number? Contact them and ask to purchase a replacement key. Contact info here.
I certainly hope that wouldn't work. Otherwise anyone could check my bike lock where I lock it most days and write to the manufacturer for a replacement key to steal the bike.
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Old 11-14-17, 05:19 PM
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Hi, the cylinders aren't numbered, just the keys and the keycard. I'll take a few closeups of the lock for the thread when I get a chance. Maybe I'll Youtube a destruction process of the lock and then toss it. Perhaps ABUS itself would be interested in such a video, being a "green, waste not want not" kind of company. I'd even be interested in sending the lock to ABUS so they could SELL it to someone else as a used scratch & dent offering, thus keeping it from the waste stream.

As far as picking goes, I only wanted to use it for my bike. I really don't want to channel my inner cat-burglar. I'd let a Smithey do the work for a re-key if possible.
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Old 11-14-17, 07:40 PM
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I knew a guy in the ninth grade who could make master keys to open all the schoolís doors and all the studentís lockers. And he modified and used generally available key blanks. Good thing he was the honest type.
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I knew a guy in the ninth grade who could make master keys to open all the schoolís doors and all the studentís lockers. And he modified and used generally available key blanks. Good thing he was the honest type.
Not surprising. Where I attended college it was well known that any individual room key could be converted to a master key for all rooms just by grinding away the first few bumps on the key.
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Old 11-17-17, 09:39 PM
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Hi, we'll see what happens. I've got a few real world photos but haven't dumped them off the camera. I'll try a few more locksmiths and see what happens.
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Old 11-18-17, 07:02 AM
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From personal experience, the ABUS keys are quite complicated, tumbler wise.

That said, the company's stance is that there is no solution but drilling out the core/replacing it. I suspect even if a locksmith could fabricate a key for one of their products, they wouldn't risk bringing the ire of ABUS on themselves in a professional capacity.
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Old 11-18-17, 08:43 AM
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Craigslist has a *Lost & Found* section. Likely they don't know exactly where they lost it. I found a guy's seat post, quick release, mount rack pack in July 2016. Surprised he didn't hear it hit the pavement. lol
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they use a double row of pins on both edges of the key, to make picking more difficult..


Posting a 'Lost and Found' ad on craig's list , etc., to try to get the original owner his lock back... OK.






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Old 12-16-17, 11:13 AM
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Hard wax poured in a lock to make a fake key just movie special effects..?
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Hi Bob, yeah I did post it on the local classifieds within two days of finding it but never got a response. It's owner may not even have noticed it was missing until weeks later (assuming it fell off the bike while on a carrier) and then said "the hell with it". I've notified the only local bikeshop where the lock was lost in the event the guy contacts them re: his lock. I'll put it back up on the classifieds again one last time in the long shot we can have a Hollywood style Christmas-sy feel good ending.
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Even if there was a shop with a skilled locksmith, Its the blank , Europe has different style than here

so your $100 lock becomes expensive to attempt use..

the locking scheme, on the Granit uses an even harder to pick type....






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Got it!!!

Paging Dr. Feelgood !

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Originally Posted by prairiepedaler View Post
Paging Dr. Feelgood !


Okay but there is obviously a story here for you to share with us.
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I, I do, I say there is indeed, Colonel. What you see in the picture is the lock with a key in it and that key was made by a local locksmith who just happened to have blanks that fit. On the phone ABUS in Chicago said there was nothing they could do about making a key for the lock, and that what I had now was an expensive paperweight. They stated that if they had the key and if the lock needed a new cylinder then that was doable. Good thing I gave it another try after a couple years. Long story short is I had two keys made and now the lock is in use, instead of in the recycling smelter.
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I, I do, I say there is indeed, Colonel. What you see in the picture is the lock with a key in it and that key was made by a local locksmith who just happened to have blanks that fit. On the phone ABUS in Chicago said there was nothing they could do about making a key for the lock, and that what I had now was an expensive paperweight. They stated that if they had the key and if the lock needed a new cylinder then that was doable. Good thing I gave it another try after a couple years. Long story short is I had two keys made and now the lock is in use, instead of in the recycling smelter.

That is a good outcome, for as you were saying, it would have been a real shame to just junk that kind of lock.
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return it to the side of the road where you found it (not in the road, but on the edge in view). whoever would buy a lock like that is a serious cyclist and maybe a commuter who rides by that spot everyday and is probably looking for it on his/her regular route
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